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Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics

Moody"s Analytics

Join Chief Economist Mark Zandi, Marisa DiNatale and Cristian deRitis as they discuss key indicators and other aspects of the global economy. Contact us at insideeconomics@moodys.com. Visit online at www.economy.com/economicview

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00:59:28

Rules of Thumb

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/05/30

The Inside Economics crew talks about the latest tariff news, as well as the reconciliation bill making its way through Congress and the long-term macroeconomic consequences of the bill. Mark gives some rules of thumb about the tariff impact on inflation, as well as the debt-to-GDP ratio and long-term bond yields. Finally, the team answers several listener questions and plays the stats game.Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s

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00:50:56

Cliff's Notes on Housing Finance

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/05/28

Cliff Rossi, Professor of the Practice and Director of the Smith Enterprise Risk Consortium at the University of Maryland, joins the podcast to discuss the future of housing finance and the potential release of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from government conservatorship. The team also delves into Dr. Rossi's proposal for fixing the homeowners insurance market and explores concerns surrounding private credit.Guest: Clifford Rossi, Professor of the Practice, Director, Smith Enterprise Risk Consortium

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01:06:01

Stat's All, Folks!

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/05/23

The Inside Economics team is joined by our colleagues Adam Kamins and Justin Begley to play the statistics game for nearly the entire podcast. There are lots of good stats, and it’s a nice respite from all the economic drama for the long Memorial Day weekend.Guests: Justin Begley - Economist, Moody's Analytics, Adam Kamins - Senior Director and Head of Regional Economics, Moody's AnalyticsHosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s

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01:04:48

4-peat

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/05/16

The Inside Economics team welcomes back Aaron Klein, senior fellow in Economic Studies at the Brookings Institution, for his fourth appearance. The episode begins with an analysis of the latest economic indicators, unpacking fresh CPI, PPI, and retail sales data. Mark then asks the team to weigh in on how recent tariff announcements have altered their economic forecasts and recession probabilities. Moody's Analytics economist Justin Begley provides a breakdown of the budget reconciliation package

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01:15:34

The Geography of GenAI

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/05/09

Will generative artificial intelligence lead to nirvana or dystopia? Great question, which we don’t exactly answer in this week’s podcast, but we do weigh the most critical downstream effects of the technology based on recent research done by urban economists Frank Levy and Scott Abrahams. We assess how GenAI impacts the benefits of a college degree, the nation’s political dynamics, and which metro area economies will win (think Savannah) and lose (think San Francisco).Guests: Frank Levy, Visitor in

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01:04:05

Every Rose Has Its Thorn

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/05/02

Moody’s Analytics colleague Dante DeAntonio joins the podcast to recap the April jobs report, along with the potpourri of other economic data released this week. Marisa dives into other labor market data, Cris tackles GDP, and Mark discusses consumer confidence. All along the way, Mark points out the thorns in recent data. The team also provides an update on their recession probabilities. Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s

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00:57:28

Shaken, Not Stirred

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/04/25

Richard Barkham, Senior Economic Advisor at CBRE, joins the podcast to discuss the outlook for commercial real estate and the economy. Richard is decidedly more sanguine than the podcast hosts. Mark, Cris and Marisa also discuss the economic team’s recent win for Most Accurate U.S. Forecast for 2023-2024 by Consensus Economics. They debate how much of the win can be chalked up to skill, luck, or the Chief Economist.Guest: Richard Barkham – Senior Economic Advisor, CBREHosts: Mark Zandi – Chief

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01:08:42

The Inbox Episode

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/04/18

This episode marks our four-year anniversary doing the Inside Economic podcast, and we devote the conversation to responding to listener questions. We’ve been getting lots of great Qs, ranging from the global trade war and DOGE cuts to immigration and productivity growth. Keep the questions coming. Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s AnalyticsFollow

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01:13:54

Jared Bernstein's Head is Spinning

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/04/11

The Inside Economics team is joined by the former chair of the White House’s Council of Economic Advisors, Jared Bernstein. Jared shares his evaluation of what has been a whirlwind few weeks for the global economy. With a healthy dose of humility, the group then debates where things might be headed in the U.S.-China trade war as well as which country they see as possessing more leverage. The group is also joined by Martin Wurm and Matt Colyar to discuss recent financial market volatility and the

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01:15:57

Channeling Trump

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/04/09

Breitbart’s Economic and Finance Editor, John Carney, and the Urban Institute’s Jim Parrott return to Inside Economics to discuss the motivations and endgame of President Trump’s global trade war, tax and spending policy, and what will happen with Fannie and Freddie. The upshot of the conversation: the trade war isn’t going to end soon, and a recession is dead-ahead.Guests: John Carney, Finance and Economics Editor at Breitbart & Jim Parrott, Nonresident Fellow at the Urban Institute Hosts: Mark

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01:11:17

☹️

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/04/04

The Moody's Analytics team discusses President Trump's trade war. Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s AnalyticsFollow Mark Zandi on 'X', BlueSky or LinkedIn @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedInQuestions or Comments, please email us at helpeconomy@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.To stay informed and

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01:13:44

A Plethora of Data

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/03/28

Mark, Marisa, and Cris break down this week's flood of economic data and explain how new auto tariffs will affect consumers and the overall economy. Their conversation addresses important concerns about the quality and availability of government statistics as they consider private-sector alternatives. They wrap up the episode with the ever-popular "statistics game" highlighting key economic indicators and with responses to listener questions. Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics,

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01:05:49

Investing with UBS CIO Mark Haefele

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/03/21

Investing in these especially turbulent times is intrepid. No better person to navigate the ups and downs in global stock, bond, crypto and other asset markets than UBS’s CIO, Mark Haefele. Mark discusses his new book, in which he considers the broad global trends – the 5 Ds – investors should embrace. And he offers a few investment nuggets along the way.For Mark Haefele's book, The New Rules of Investing, click hereGuest: Mark Haefele – Chief Investment Officer, UBS Global Wealth ManagementHosts:

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01:02:45

Fires and Floods with Firas Saleh

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/03/18

Firas Saleh, director of product management at Moody's, joins the Inside Economics team to discuss the increasing risk of wildfires and floods. He highlights the growing frequency and intensity of natural disasters and the significant economic losses they cause. The conversation then shifts to the insurance industry, focusing on how rising insurance premiums affect individual property owners and real estate markets. Although markets will adapt to these evolving risks, the transition may be

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00:30:43

Will Economics Win?

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/03/14

The Inside Economics crew is joined by Matt Colyar to discuss February’s CPI report and a rapidly changing U.S. economic environment. Primarily, the conversation focuses on tariffs and the on-again, off-again chaos coming out of D.C. The group also discusses investors and U.S. trade partners’ increasingly evident fatigue and whether orthodox macroeconomic principals will eventually re-emerge as a guidepost for policymaking. Guest: Matt Colyar – Assistant Director, Moody's AnalyticsHosts: Mark Zandi

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01:02:06

Sharing the Angst

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/03/07

Moody’s Analytics colleague, Dante DeAntonio joins the podcast to discuss the February jobs report, and the team shares their angst about potential cracks in the labor market. The conversation then turns to the potential impact of DOGE cuts to the federal workforce and the economic implications of the on-again, off-again tariffs that has developed in recent weeks. Finally, Dante celebrates his clean sweep in the stats game and Mark and Cris revise their recession probabilities. Guest: Dante

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01:19:10

Immigration Innovation with Adam Ozimek

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/02/28

Adam Ozimek, Chief Economist at the Economic Innovation Group, joins the podcast to discuss his latest proposal to reform and replace the high-skilled immigration program in the U.S. (better known as H-1B). In addition to immigration policy, the group discusses remote work, the softening of recent economic data, and the prospects for the year ahead. Finally, the group goes around the horn with its recession probability for the next 12 months.Guest: Adam Ozimek – Chief Economist of the Economic

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01:04:54

The Trump Whisperer

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/02/27

Inside Economics was fortunate to have Trump whisperer John Carney of Breitbart News join the podcast to provide his insight on the Trump administration’s efforts to rework government and reshape economic policy. Urban Institute scholar Jim Parrott helped guide the conversation. Listeners will get a wildly different perspective from that provided by Robert Reich of UC Berkeley on the podcast last week. Hopefully, these back-to-back podcasts on Trump’s policies help put things into clearer

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00:57:00

Robert Reich on President Trump

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/02/21

Robert Reich, UC Berkley professor and former Labor Secretary under President Clinton, joins the Inside Economics podcast to take a retrospective look at economic policies extending back to Clinton that ultimately contributed to President Trump’s election, and a prospective look at where the president is taking policy and what it means for democracy and the economy. His advice: batten down the hatches and buckle upGuest: Robert Reich, Professor at UC Berkley and former U.S. Secretary of LaborTo keep

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00:57:18

Inflation Blues

Moody"s Talks - Inside Economics ·

2025/02/14

After congratulating the Philadelphia Eagles on their dominant Super Bowl win, the Inside Economics team breaks down the week’s inflation data. Moody’s Analytics colleague Matt Colyar joins to help unpack the details behind January’s hotter-than-hoped-for CPI and then the group discusses whether their outlooks for 2025 have changed. Predictably, this evolves into a discussion about tariffs. Finally, they play the numbers game. Objectively, Marisa’s number was best.Click here to take the most recent

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