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Both Sides of the Aisle

Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall

Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left.Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah

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25:46

Alaska summit, the Smithsonian Institution, and...

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2025/08/21

Our hosts discuss Russia, NATO, United States history, and who controls the balance of power in Washington, D.C.

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25:45

Trump, municipal primaries, toxic dust, and Ty Burrell

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2025/08/14

Our hosts discuss Trump's meeting with Putin in Alaska, how ranked-choice voting works, and what is necessary to save the Great Salt Lake.

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25:53

Tariffs, unemployment, public broadcasting, and...

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2025/08/07

Our hosts discuss the firing of the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the redistricting showdown in Texas, and how tariffs impact Utah's bid for global commerce.

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22:23

Sophia DiCaro and the Utah state budget

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2025/07/31

Natalie Gochnour and Shireen Ghorbani interview Sophia DiCaro, the executive director of the Utah Governor’s Office of Planning and Budget.

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25:42

Utah trivia, triumphs, and challenges

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2025/07/24

Our hosts celebrate Pioneer Day with a discussion of Utah facts, novel achievements, and its biggest struggles as a state.

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26:05

Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall

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2025/07/17

Natalie Gochnour and Shireen Ghorbani interview Erin Mendenhall, Mayor of Salt Lake City.

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25:59

Texas floods, America Party, federal injunctions, and...

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2025/07/11

Our hosts discuss the lack of flood warnings in Texas, the Supreme Court's curbing of lower courts' injunctive powers, and cuts to Utah's education programs.

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25:48

International uncertainty, the Senate's budget bill,...

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2025/07/03

Our hosts discuss the long-term consequences of U.S. policy in the Middle East, the tie-breaking Senate budget vote, and state water pricing.

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25:53

Iran, the U.S. Constitution's war powers, and federal...

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2025/06/25

John Dougall and Shireen Ghorbani discuss the U.S. bombing of Iran, Utah's public lands, and the 2026 veto referendum on public sector bargaining.

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25:53

Israel and Iran, No Kings Day protests, and the...

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2025/06/19

Our hosts discuss the missile strikes in Tel Aviv and Tehran, the tragic death of Arthur Folasa Ah Loo, and Sen. Mike Lee's social media firestorm.

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25:53

LA protests, the Trump-Musk feud, tax policy, and...

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2025/06/12

Our hosts discuss the domestic deployment of U.S. Marines, weakening public health institutions, and the logic behind trickle-down economics.

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25:52

Gazan children, Senate budget deliberations, NEPA,...

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2025/06/05

Our hosts discuss what they hope to see in the Senate budget, SCOTUS siding with Utah on an oil rail line, and how Utahns navigate Pride month.

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25:53

The House's budget, Trump's memecoin dinner, and...

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2025/05/29

Our hosts discuss the 'Big Beautiful Bill,' the phase-out of pennies, religious school funding, Cox's message to Trump, and Utah's tourism industry.

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25:52

Russia, Qatar, the Utah GOP convention, and obscenity

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2025/05/22

Our hosts discuss Trump's trip to the Middle East, his endorsement of the Utah GOP chair, and allegations of insider trading within the presidential cabinet.

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28:02

Former Salt Lake County Councilmember Jim Bradley

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2025/05/15

Shireen Ghorbani talks with Former Councilmember Jim Bradley about his decades of experience in Utah politics and on the Salt Lake County Council.

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25:53

Political party realignment and Utah's future

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2025/05/13

Our hosts discuss shifting party platforms, Trump's influence, global trade, and political personalities to watch.

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25:53

Canada, Trump's first one hundred days, and Utah's...

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2025/05/01

Our hosts discuss Trump and Zelensky speaking at the papal funeral, Trump's steep decline in approval, and the principles that guide the Utah Compact on immigration.

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25:47

SCOTUS, the Federal Reserve, and funding for U.S....

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2025/04/24

Our hosts discuss Utah's unemployment rate during recessions, Sen. Mike Lee's social media presence, and the legacy of the post-World War II global order.

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25:53

Deportation, federal regulation, due process, and AOC...

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2025/04/17

Our hosts discuss El Salvadoran prisons, global trade, the self-deportation of Utah students, and the public union referendum push.

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25:44

Tariff crisis, federal budget negotiations, and MAHA...

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2025/04/10

Our hosts discuss the on-again-off-again U.S. tariffs, the IRS working with ICE, and Utah's fertility rate falling to tenth in the nation.

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