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Policing In America

Welcome to Policing in America – a podcast about race and policing: the good, the bad and the ugly. The goal? To have, at times, uncomfortable conversations to spark positive change. Your host is currently the Officer in Charge of a unit that creates, delivers and maintains police training in the largest urban police department on the west coast of America: Sergeant Tom Datro.

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56:08

Policing's False Narrative - and the deadly consequences

Policing In America ·

2022/11/04

Peter Kirsanow is a distinguished US Commission on Civil Rights member and a practicing attorney. Mr. Kirsanow believes data should drive public policy, not emotions, not feelings, and certainly not the media.

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01:01:15

Bias Policing with Jessica Nordell

Policing In America ·

2022/09/23

Sgt Tom speaks with Jessica Nordell about the social and cognitive phenomena of bias. Can police departments foster trust and legitimacy with those they are sworn to protect and serve through a better understanding of bias? Are the right incentives in place to encourage fair and just policing? To learn more about Jessica and her amazing work please visit https://www.jessicanordell.com/

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56:33

Can We Improve Police Training by Modeling the Marines

Policing In America ·

2022/08/31

Policing across the US seems to embrace a "para-military" framework. However, policing seems to simply assume the hierarchy and rank structures but appears to be failing in the training and education of their officers. Dr Frank Tortorello suggests that training is being "over-neurologized". Could Dr. Tortorello be on the verge of initiating a quantum leap in police training and education? Give a listen and tell me what you think. I for one am convinced he is on to something big.

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01:04:56

Broken Windows Policing - Is it time to go back?

Policing In America ·

2022/07/06

Professor Peter Moskos, a Princeton and Harvard-trained sociologist, author, and one-time Baltimore cop teaches us about Broken Windows policing; why it's good, why it went awry and is it time to re-visit this crime reduction strategy?

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01:02:17

Chronic Sleep Deprivation and Law Enforcement; A...

Policing In America ·

2022/05/03

In this episode, I speak with Professor Lois James from the Washington State University School of Nursing. Professor James has focused a large part of her scholarship on the intersection of sleep deprivation, bias, and policing. She is a brilliant researcher, fair in her methodology, and rigorous in her conclusions. Sleep-Deprivation is a national issue, but because of policing's unique role in society, the costs associated with chronically fatigued officers must be addressed.

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01:00:13

Professor Dorothy Schulz talks about the Wandering...

Policing In America ·

2022/04/03

In today's episode, I have a conversation with Professor emeritus Dorothy Schulz. Prof Schulz has a forthcoming research article on the Wandering Cop. Those cops who get into trouble at one agency, but flee to another agency before they can be held accountable for their actions. Please keep an eye out for Dr.Schulz's work which is featured in City Journal and at the Manhattan Insititute where she is also a Fellow.

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The Wandering Cop - An issue that needs to be addressed

Policing In America ·

2022/04/02

I hope you enjoy my conversation with Dr. Dorothy Schulz. Dr. Schulz is a professor emerita at John Jay College, a retired NY city METRO North Rail Captain, an adjunct Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, author, scholar, and all-around great lady.

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58:55

The Myth of Mass Incarceration

Policing In America ·

2021/11/26

Professor Barry Latzer has spent decades studying and researching crime in the United States. This endeavor led Professor Latzer to an interesting conclusion; is it possible that the charge of over-incarceration and "mass incarceration" are terms of opprobrium but not at all supported by the data we currently have.

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49:12

Policing in America Podcast

Policing In America ·

2021/11/15

Robert VerBruggen is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute where he also writes from City Journal. Robert has a list of professional and academic accomplishments including the Chicago Headline Club Peter Lisagor Award. Robert writes on a variety of contemporary issues including public policy, policing, education, public finance, health care and cancel culture to name a few. More on Robert can be found at https://www.city-journal.org/contributor/robert-verbruggen_1816

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01:06:08

Can Policing Improve?

Policing In America ·

2021/08/24

In this bonus episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Professor Peter Moskos from John Jay College. Professor Moskos is an author, a historian, a former police officer with the Baltimore Police Department, and an all-around reasonable gentleman.

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01:05:35

Bonus Episode - Constitutional Policing

Policing In America ·

2021/08/03

Arif Alikhan is a National expert on policing, public policy, homeland security, counter-terrorism, and the law. In this episode, Arif explains the importance of the Constitution and how this body of work needs to be at the forefront of policing in America.

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58:08

Data-Driven Policing (Pros and Cons)

Policing In America ·

2021/07/14

Join Sgt. Tom Datro and his guest Charles Fan Lehman, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute as they discuss data in policing. The Manhattan Institute is a conservative non-profit American think tank focused on domestic policy and urban affairs, established in Manhattan in 1977. Lehman is currently working on their Policing and Public Safety Initiative and as contributing editor for the City Journal. In this episode, they discuss data in policing, the defunding of the police movement, and the

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01:08:35

Accountability in Policing: an example in Ex-Sheriff...

Policing In America ·

2021/06/01

Join Sgt. Tom Datro and his guest Lydia Guzman the Chairwomen of the Phoenix PD and the Dept of Public Safety's Hispanic Advisory Boards as they talk about accountability in policing. In 2017, Lydia’s actions as well as those from other activists helped convict Sheriff Joe Arpaio. In this episode you will learn: When Sheriff Joe crossed the line. Reappropriating funds for Mental Health experts What to do when a police officer gets "the jitters" after a shooting. The problem with the

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01:54:21

Equal Standard Movie Producer: “everyone has...

Policing In America ·

2021/05/25

Join Sgt. Tom Datro and his guest Taheim Bryan, the writer and producer of the movie Equal Standard as they talk about systemic racism and the American police force. They compare policing styles in different parts of the country, and share statistics as they discuss the murder of George Floyd. They also have an uncomfortable conversation about what happens when people make "generalizations" about a community based on the color of their skin. In this episode you will learn: What inspired Taheim

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01:19:56

How do you lead when you're in crises?

Policing In America ·

2021/05/18

Join Sgt. Tom Datro and Colonel James Minnich, an academic, author, and retired U.S. Army Colonel as they talk about leadership in policing. Minnich has in-depth experiences in NE Asia since 1982, including 15 years of duty in Korea. He is a professor at the Daniel K. Inouye Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies in Hawaii where he previously served as Associate Dean, Senior Military Professor, and Senior Military Officer before retiring as a U.S. Army Colonel after 37 years of active duty in

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01:20:30

LAPD Officer Deon Joseph's Open Letter to Lebron James

Policing In America ·

2021/05/11

Join Sgt. Tom Datro and Deon Joseph discuss his open letter to Lebron James and why he is hoping to work with him to save lives. The talk about comments by Kamala Harris, racism in the policing, and the importance of being more proactive in regards to mentally illness. Open Letter to Lebron James in response to his tweet. What it's like answering questions on "big media" shows Mental Health Issues on Skid Row and beyond Having "the talk" about police with children Connect with Deon Joseph

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LAPD Officer Deon Joseph's Open Letter to Lebron James

Policing In America ·

2021/05/11

Join Sgt. Tom Datro and Deon Joseph discuss his open letter to Lebron James and why he is hoping to work with him to save lives. The talk about comments by Kamala Harris, racism in the policing, and the importance of being more proactive in regards to mentally illness. Open Letter to Lebron James in response to his tweet. What it's like answering questions on "big media" shows Mental Health Issues on Skid Row and beyond Having "the talk" about police with children Connect with Deon Joseph

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01:28

Sgt. Tom "Let's not move backwards" | Production has...

Policing In America ·

2021/04/20

“It is disappointing that I have to make the following statement, however, with the Derek Chauvin Trial coming to a close combined with the recent controversial Officer Involved Shootings in Minneapolis and Chicago. Many Law Enforcement agencies are hoping for the best, but must prepare for the worst. I am still an active member in law enforcement and my duties and responsibilities as such remain my first priority. Therefore, I must take a week, maybe longer from the Policing in America podcast.

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01:06:11

Harvard Dr: "Threat responses affect optimal decision...

Policing In America ·

2021/04/13

Dr. Yilmaz is a Harvard-trained doctor of neuroscience and is working with the best and brightest at Stanford. Her work is creating a better understanding of the limits of human potential under stress. While it seems like every bad outcome in policing is said to be the result of systemic bias, racism, or institutionalized marginalization there are a few who are stepping away from social science and taking a deeper dive into the hard science of how the brain works under stress. What they are

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01:26:41

Black Officer: "I'm cancelled on both sides."

Policing In America ·

2021/04/06

Join Sgt. Tom Datro as he interviews Sgt. Cleon Joseph about what it is like to be a black officer who loves his community. They have uncomfortable conversations about growing up in a "well-off" family before losing it all in a recession, becoming an activist and the internal struggle he went through when applying to become a police officer. They talk about the death of George Floyd, reparations and the underlying implicit bias that reveals itself every time an officer pulls over a black man.

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