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Policing In America

Welcome to Policing in America – a podcast about race and policing: the good, the bad and the ugly. The goal? To have, at times, uncomfortable conversations to spark positive change. Your host is currently the Officer in Charge of a unit that creates, delivers and maintains police training in the largest urban police department on the west coast of America: Sergeant Tom Datro.

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01:17:10

The RISE of Rashmi Airan

Policing In America ·

2025/10/27

In this gripping episode, I sit down with Rashmi Airan, whose fall from grace exposed the quiet power of rationalization, cultural pressure, and the slow erosion of integrity. From the courtroom to a prison camp, Rashmi's story is a masterclass in how smart people can make devastating choices—and how redemption starts with radical honesty. For law enforcement professionals, this isn't just a cautionary tale—it's a mirror. We explore: The slippery slope of "just this once" How ethical drift

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01:25:41

The Real Operative: Inside Child Trafficking with...

Policing In America ·

2025/05/01

By far the most emotional podcast I have done. Paul Hutchinson is a modern day hero. He has walked through the gates of hell to meet the Devil himself in order to save the most innocent among us. Please enjoy this episode! If you want to support Paul (see below) Get the first 3 chapters of Paul's book for free: soundoffreedombook.com Websites: Liberating Humanity Website: liberating-humanity.com Child Liberation Foundation Website: childliberation.org Social:

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01:04:19

Leaving the X - Lessons from a CIA Operator

Policing In America ·

2025/04/10

Former CIA counterterrorism officer Michele Rigby Assad joins us to talk espionage, fear, intuition, and how to own your presence in the world’s most dangerous places. This isn’t Jason Bourne, because that's Hollywood. Michele lived that life without any safety nets. Often times she was alone and her only "weapons" were her abilities to read the situation and make the best decisions available; to get off the X and act. You can find Michele here https://michelerigbyassad.com/ You can fund her

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01:02:15

Too Many Rules, Too Little Thinking

Policing In America ·

2025/03/25

In this episode, Sgt Tom sits down with Professor, philosopher, and martial artist Barry Lam to unpack the hidden costs of rule-heavy systems in high-stakes professions like policing. Together, they explore why too many rules can actually undermine judgment, initiative, and moral reasoning on the front lines. From the ethics of discretion to the neuroscience of decision-making, this conversation challenges the idea that more policy equals better outcomes. What if better training in judgment—not more

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01:14:02

The Flaw in Fighting Crime - The Dark Side of Data.

Policing In America ·

2025/01/27

In this we hear from a former FBI Cyber Special Agent who pulls back the curtain on how data can be a game-changer in the fight against crime—but also reveals the startling ways many police agencies are getting it wrong. Our conversation dives into the challenges and opportunities of leveraging data for public safety. Whether you're a tech enthusiast, a law enforcement professional, or just curious about the intersection of technology and justice, this episode will leave you with a new perspective

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01:49:53

Service, Honor, and Sacrifice - A conversation with a...

Policing In America ·

2024/08/18

Ret. Captain Christine Collins is a decorated veteran and trauma nurse during a pivotal deployment to Afghanistan in 2009. Stationed at Bagram Air Base, she found herself at the epicenter of the conflict, tirelessly working to save the lives of American troops, Afghan civilians caught in the crossfire, and even enemy fighters. Through her raw and poignant memoir, Christine unveils the physical and emotional toll of war, not just on those fighting but also on the medical personnel tasked with picking

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01:04:09

What's the truth about crime rates? A conversation...

Policing In America ·

2024/05/31

I have been wrestling with the recent news reports about the historic plummeting of crime rates for some time. I am left thinking, "Don't believe your lying eyes." Depending on which news outlets you watch you might have a very different perspective on crime. The left tells you the drop in crime is historic - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/30/trump-crime-fbi-data-murder-statistics/73443631007/ Right-wing outlets tell you Blue States are basically hellscapes and

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01:09:08

Self-Defense - When there are no POLICE - It's up to...

Policing In America ·

2024/05/08

Donovan Brit is a US Army Veteran, a 3rd Degree Black Belt in Krav Maga, and the creator of the Las Vagas Combat Academy. https://lasvegascombatacademy.com/ Donovan shares his unique insights on police use of force, self-defense, and how to prepare for the worst-case scenario.

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01:14:53

The Problem with Police Training

Policing In America ·

2024/04/30

Scott Savage is the founder of The Savage Training Group. A police training and education company committed to providing the highest quality police training and education. Scott recently retired from policing as a Lieutenant. During his time in law enforcement Scott worked a variety of units including SWAT. His unique experiences and perspectives coupled with his incredible skill-set makes him at the tip of the spear in modern police training and education. Learn more about this company here -

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01:32:11

Operation Fast and Furious WHISTLEBLOWER Peter Focelli

Policing In America ·

2024/03/22

Peter J. Forcelli is a retired Deputy Assistant Director from the U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He served for 15 years with the N.Y.P.D., before retiring from the Bronx Homicide Task Force. Mr. Forcelli is a survivor of the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks on the World Trade Center, and the lung cancer that he later developed because of his work in the rescue and recovery efforts at Ground Zero. Mr. Forcelli is also a WHISTLEBLOWER for Operation Fast and

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01:06:32

Press Patrol - Navigating the News and Policing with...

Policing In America ·

2024/03/04

In this episode I have the pleasure of speaking with a nationally recognized journalist and winner of multiple Golden Mic awards Steve Gregory of KFI news. Steve shares his extensive knowledge on the media, the coverage of policing, national versus local news, and how agencies can create partnerships with the media to enhance policing relations and perceptions of policing. Steve's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stevegregory640/?hl=en Steve's Linkdin -

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01:08:49

The Huth Method - A conversation with Charles "Chip"...

Policing In America ·

2024/01/24

Chip Huth has spent more than four decades building his leadership credentials. From growing up in poverty, to leading an internationally recognized SWAT unit, to speaking on a TED stage, Chip shares with us his incredible story, lessons he learned the hard way, his mistakes, and his incredible accomplishments. Personally, Chip is someone I look up to and someone who inspires tens of thousands of cops. I hope you enjoy our talk as much as I enjoyed having it. Thank you for your continued

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59:39

Trauma Informed Care - From the inside out.

Policing In America ·

2023/09/18

In the world of policing Trauma informed care is taught to police officers so that officers can better deal with community members experiencing mental and emotional crisis. However, very little time is spent on officers interacting with each other through the lens of trauma informed care. September is Law Enforcement suicide awareness month. Our guest, Dr. Michelle Gundy, is making it her professional mission to educate officers and stop the suicide epidemic present in our community. An added

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01:30:44

Reimagining Safety - Two Different Perspectives; one...

Policing In America ·

2023/07/10

During this podcast I have a robust conversation with award-winning writer/director Mathew Solomon. Despite our different points of view, perspectives, and opinions we find a great deal of common ground and hopefully set the example for how dialogue and debate should occur.

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57:32

Consent Decree's - Valuable intervention or a waste...

Policing In America ·

2023/04/25

Bob Scales shares his insights and experiences with Seattle PD and their Consent Decree. Fair-minded, reasonable, and academically rigorous Bob is a pleasure to listen to and has a lot to say.

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01:01:24

Is POLICE CULTURE the problem? Dr. Frank Tortorello...

Policing In America ·

2023/02/15

In this episode, I continue my post-Memphis series with Dr. Frank Tortorello. Dr. Tortorello is a trained and educated cultural anthropologist, author, researcher, and strategist. Dr. Tortorello has a number of articles and his book can be found here https://read.amazon.com/kp/embed?asin=B08N6R8F44&preview=newtab&linkCode=kpe&ref_=cm_sw_r_kb_dp_P81GM772XRDZAXDCP72P Is it police culture or personal choice? Is it individual values or organizational pressures? Hear what Frank has to say - it's

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58:08

Is there MEDIA BIAS when it comes to Policing- A...

Policing In America ·

2023/01/24

Democratic Strategist, nationally syndicated radio host, and FOX News contributor Leslie Marshall and I discuss what many in policing see as a no-brainer. Media Bias when it comes to covering the police. Leslie is known for her honesty and fair perspective. Hear what she has to say about this topic and the racism in America today.

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01:02:57

Better Policing starts with understanding...

Policing In America ·

2022/12/20

Stafanie Faye is a neuroscience specialist who has worked with Google, Stanford, UC San Diego Medical school, the Department of Defense, the Canada School of Public Service, and many more. To learn more about this incredible woman please visit her website here https://stefaniefaye.com/ In this episode, Stefanie and I discuss a wide range of policing issues and how a better understanding of neuroscience will improve policing.

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59:33

Are we OVER-Punishing criminals ?

Policing In America ·

2022/12/03

Elizabeth Franklen-Best, a 20-year attorney, has been reversing criminal convictions for 15-plus years. We discuss a component on the Criminal Justice system that does not get as much attention as policing; criminal sentencing. Elizabeth is a pragmatic, intelligent, attorney who values public safety. She also fights for those who many have written off; the incarcerated. It was a pleasure to talk with Elizabeth and hear her perspective on how one part of the justice system can be improved and why

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56:08

Policing's False Narrative - and the deadly consequences

Policing In America ·

2022/11/04

Peter Kirsanow is a distinguished US Commission on Civil Rights member and a practicing attorney. Mr. Kirsanow believes data should drive public policy, not emotions, not feelings, and certainly not the media.

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