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The Power of Music Thinking

What can the dynamics of music teach us about navigating today’s complex world? The Power of Music Thinking podcast dives deep into this potent analogy. Host Christof Zürn, founder of MusicThinking.com, explores how concepts like listening, tuning, rhythm, and improvisation translate into powerful tools for business, creativity, and leadership.Through engaging interviews with global thought leaders, designers, entrepreneurs, and artists, discover practical ways to improve collaboration, spark

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38:20

Music and Astrophysics with Dr Mariana Wagner

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2024/03/24

Dr. Mariana Wagner, an astrophysicist, songwriter, podcaster, and composer of immersive live shows about sound and space. We learn about her journey that led her from studying oceanography, working as a songwriter for German Schlager stars and becoming a doctor of astrophysics. Mariana also brought some sound examples to the show. We hear a conversation between Saturn and one of its moons, an excerpt from the sound files on the famous golden record that has accompanied the Voyager since 1977, and

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38:57

Better English with Jam Cards and Anita Prestidge

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2024/02/27

How cool is this? You develop a multisensory product to let people experience your ideas about music thinking and then someone comes along and uses your product for something completely different.So today, we speak with Anita Prestidge, an English trainer with experience in theatre, directing, and education. When Anita picked up the cards, she had another idea of what to do with these cards and developed her own unique method. So, if you want to speak better English while using the Jam Cards,

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37:28

Science and Music dialogue with Carolin Seiferth

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2024/02/02

Today, we are in Sweden, and we speak with Carolin Seiferth - a PhD student at the Stockholm Resilience Centre, where she does research on the island of Öland. Carolin combines scientific research with music to raise awareness about sustainability issues around the Baltic Sea. In this way, she inspires the audience to take action to address challenges related to a changing climate. Carolin shares some insights with us about her research and the creative production that led to the musical piece

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43:30

Rewind 2023 - The Power of Music Thinking - Podcast

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/12/20

Welcome to the Rewind 2023 of The Power of Music Thinking podcast, where I have conversations with extraordinary people from all over the world who are also musicians or use music in the broadest sense of the word to learn, teach, inspire and collaborate meaningfully. This year, we had 15 episodes, and virtually, we travelled from Nijmegen in the Netherlands, where all podcasts are recorded, to Berlin, Braunschweig, Zürich, London, Oslo, New York, West Virginia, Nashville, Los Angeles, Hawaii,

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26:41

How Music Can Make Your City Better with Shain Shapiro

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/12/02

Today, we are in Nashville, and we speak with Shain Shapiro - a globally recognised thought leader at the convergence of music, culture and urban policy. Shain is the CEO of Sound Diplomacy - a global research and strategy consultancy, and he also leads the non-profit Center for Music Ecosystems, which commissions research to help solve local, national and international challenges using music as a tool. Shain has authored reports on the role of music in cities, tourism, the nighttime economy,

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24:50

The Sound of a Toy Dolphin - Special Episode - The...

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/11/05

Listen to an incredible sonic project by a Design Academy Eindhoven (DAE) graduate: Louis Moeckel. Hear the story about the supply chain of the production of a Toy Dolphin and the creation of research into an artistic Vinyl record. If you like Techno and the Berghain Club in Berlin you will like this. See the show notes to pre-order this unique Vinyl record. Show support to the Podcast Please choose one or more of the ‘three ways to support the show’! Subscribe to the podcast. Leave us a

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51:34

Standing still with Alexander Refsum Jensenius

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/10/04

What is the use of standing still for 10 minutes? I was asking myself when I saw a post on social media. It was a double picture of a man with a mobile phone around his neck displaying some data, and another picture showed the view he saw at that moment. I learned that he stood there for 10 minutes without any movement, listening to the sound that was already there. There were many pictures like this, and I decided to get in contact. So, today, we are in Oslo. We speak with Alexander Refsum

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01:16:38

Sonification with Mike von der Nahmer

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/09/11

Mike von der Nahmer is a sound researcher, music therapist, scientific collaborator at the German Aerospace Center and composer. With over 30 stage works and 100+ compositions, he holds international recognition. He has collaborated with GRAMMY, Kenwood, Sony BMG, Rolls Royce and BMW, and his music has been featured in TV series like NOVA. Mike shares with us some sonification projects in various domains, such as weather patterns, language, the brain, and sound design in autonomous vehicles

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47:44

Musical Mind Hacking with Jeena Earthiva

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/08/22

Today we are in Mumbai. We talk with Jeena Earthiva. Jeena is a Transformational Coach, a Producer with a master’s in Computer Science, an ex-Bollywood singer, the Founder of Conscious Music Code, and a ‘Mind DJ’. Jeena conveys her story of a successful Bollywood singer who lost her voice at the top of her singing career and how she found and developed the ‘Conscious Music Code’ that helped her get back on track and start a new career as ‘Mind DJ’. We talk about the broad field of music between

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01:12:40

Sound Strategies and how things go together with...

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2023/07/19

Why can elements from music be applied for the benefit of communities or companies? How do you effectively use music and music thinking as a tool? What does Beethoven's 9th and Japanese woodwork have in common? We are in the in-between space, between music and business, education and performance, listening and understanding, and London and Tokyo. So, today we talk with Michael Spencer. Michael is the founder of Sound Strategies Ltd, TEDx speaker, Visiting Professor at Ueno Gakuen University

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36:08

Leading an Orchestra of Leaders with Harvey Seifter -...

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/06/27

This episode is about art, innovation and leadership. What is the relationship between art-based learning, innovation and co-creation? How do you lead an ensemble of leaders? And why do people often use the metaphor of a conductor when discussing leadership? Or, is a conductor actually just a middle manager? So, today we are in New York and talking with Harvey Seifter. Harvey is the founder of The Art of Science Learning, a US National Science Foundation-funded initiative that uses the arts to

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24:34

Listening to the Field - Special Episode

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2023/05/30

This is a special episode about listening in the field and some activities I did last month. Hear more about a short field recording in the middle of the most dangerous roundabout in the Netherlands, about the visit to my birth town in the South of Germany, where I have recorded the Turmbläser, which are performing a sonic ritual since 400 years high above the belfry on all four balconies every Sunday. And I also share some news, development, and info about the Listening Day at the Design Academy

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01:25:31

Sound pictures with Charles Brooks

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/04/05

Today we touch base on the intersection between music and photography, and that in many different ways. My guest today is Charles Brooks, an exceptionable photographer and musician, that for the last 20 years has been New Zealand’s most successful orchestral cellist. Charles held principal positions in Australia, China, Chile and Brazil, with concerts worldwide. He also gives us insights in the organisation and culture of professional symphony orchestras and shares personal stories about the life

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57:41

How Music Speaks with Ben Pelzer

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/03/22

Today we are in Singapore; we talk with Benjamin Pelzer, Assistant Professor of the Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information at Nanyang Technological University. Ben is trained in Music Theory and Psychology. He works as an assistant professor and scientist with expertise in the methods of cognitive neuroscience, machine learning, computational social science, and empirical psychology. And Ben is teaching a one-of-its-kind course in the world of research on music as a sort of

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01:15:22

World-building and empathic storytelling with Eelko...

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/03/06

What are the links between daily work for a multinational company, an omnichannel fantasy story and playing in a band? My guest today is Eelko Lommers, Global Director Product Experience Design at IKEA, creator, designer, writer of a (not yet published) novel and a musician in a post-hardcore band. We talk about empathy with clients, personality in a brand context and global operations that need adaptations in different markets. And that a lot of a country's culture is directly related to its

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51:12

A Sound Life with Dr Jen Palladino

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/02/16

From the wild Punk scene in New York and London of the 70s to a sound healing practice in Los Angeles, my guest today is Jennifer Palladino, also called Dr Jen, a Doctor of Chiropractic, the Regional Director of the You Rock Foundation and a holistic health facilitator connecting mind, body and spirit with Chiropractic Sound Therapy. Her musical experiences span from being a young performer wrangler at the American Ballet Theatre while Mikhail Baryshnikov was Artistic Director, to working in the

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42:55

What Music taught me about political journalism with...

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/02/01

What has political journalism to do with music? Well, quite a lot. My guest today is Matt K Lewis from West Virginia, a political columnist for the daily beast, former CNN contributor, TV commentator for MSNBC’s morning show, a podcaster on Matt Lewis and the News (pun intended) and musician. Matt shares with us that he started his career, or better, the foundation of his later career, in the basement rehearsing with his band. Years later, when already a political journalist, he reflected on his

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33:39

Healthcare, Sound Healing and Mantras Rasa Priya

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/01/16

Rasa Priya in conversation with Christof Zürn. Rasa Priya describes the concept and advantages of sound healing, especially the vibrations behind the chanting of mantras, which are essential in his teaching of vocal empowerment, like the word 'Om' that, besides the sound, also has a healing effect on our facial muscles, creating possibilities of experiences. Rasa also introduces us to the work of the Japanese water photographer Masaru Emoto who visualises different styles of music but also words

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45:35

Are you a polymath? With Barbara Kleeb

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2023/01/03

In The Power of Music Thinking podcast, we have conversations with exciting people that are also musicians. They see analogies between music and the areas they are working. So what they do is combine knowledge and skills from multiple fields to make significant contributions to various areas. In The Power of Music Thinking book, I call them the AND-musician. I talk about this, especially in the Backstage chapter, where we dive into analogies to switch from one field to the other, like: Black is to

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54:08

Every Noise at Once with Glenn McDonald

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/12/14

Well it's this time of the year. And I am not talking about the countdown until Christmas and the holiday. I am also not talking about ‘the word of the year’, or any other review compiled and curated by air quote “specialists”. I am talking about you, or better about your data, or even more close about your musical behaviour, taste and most played songs. Yes, it is the time when all Spotify users get their personal wrap-up of the year. But this episode is not about the making of the wrap-up. This

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