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The MSing Link

Dr. Gretchen Hawley PT, DPT, MSCS

Do you have Multiple Sclerosis and have goals of improving your mobility, energy, and motivation? On this show, you’ll learn MS-specific exercises and symptom management strategies to help you gain control over your life with MS. I also bring in other MS Experts in the healthcare industry to share their insights and advice so you’ll be armed with research-driven education. You’ll leave each episode feeling empowered and ready to take action!

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24:49

249. Spilling the Tea: My Interview on the Messy...

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2025/09/10

In this special episode, I’m spilling the tea on my recent interview with Christina Applegate and Jamie-Lynn Sigler on the MeSsy Podcast! I share a behind-the-scenes look at how I was invited to the show, my connections with Jamie and Christina, and what it felt like to discuss multiple sclerosis (MS) with two incredible advocates.Tune in as I open up about pre-interview nerves, staying authentic, and diving into important topics like MS symptoms, physical therapy exercises, mindset

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33:38

248. How to Process Chronic Illness Grief (When Talk...

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2025/09/03

In this episode, I’m joined by Ashley Milas, a trauma-informed somatic grief and life transition coach who specializes in helping people process chronic illness grief—especially when traditional talk therapy just isn’t working. We dive deep into why grief is often overlooked when living with multiple sclerosis (MS), how somatic work can support your healing, and practical ways to process emotions through your body and nervous system. Ashley shares her 13+ year journey with chronic illness,

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24:51

247. Why Physical Therapy Doesn't Work for MS (And...

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2025/08/27

In this episode, I’m sharing the real reasons why traditional physical therapy often doesn’t work for people with multiple sclerosis (MS), and—most importantly—what actually DOES help improve strength, mobility, and daily activities for those of us living with MS.As a physical therapist who specializes in MS, I break down how MS-specific exercises, functional movement strategies, and neuroplasticity can make a big difference in walking, stair climbing, and overall independence. Tune in for

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39:00

246. MS Walking Problems? Real Results from...

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2025/08/20

In this episode, I’m thrilled to sit down with Tracey, a member of The MSing Link, to discuss real results from MS-specific exercises and inspire anyone with MS to take the first step.Tracey opens up about her journey—from being misdiagnosed and struggling with foot drop, balance issues, and mobility aids to regaining confidence, walking on uneven surfaces, and even driving on the highway again! We dive deep into the impact of targeted physical therapy exercises for multiple sclerosis,

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22:59

245. Why Small MS Progress Matters More Than Big...

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2025/08/13

In this episode, I’m sharing a personal story that reminded me just how crucial it is to focus on small progress—especially when living with multiple sclerosis (MS). Drawing from both my own recent experience and real success stories from my MSing Link community, I’ll show you why those micro improvements matter much more than you think. We’ll talk about how looking for and celebrating tiny wins—like walking a few more steps or lifting your leg an inch higher—can keep you motivated, help

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16:23

244. Feel Less Stiff in the Morning With MS: 3 Quick...

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2025/08/06

In this episode, I share three quick and easy exercises you can do to help reduce morning stiffness and improve balance with multiple sclerosis (MS).Learn how activating your neural pathways before standing up can make a big difference in how steady and confident you feel—whether you’ve been resting in bed, sitting on the couch, or even out at a restaurant. I’ll walk you through the simple steps of marching, leg kicks, and toe lifts, all designed to wake up your muscles and boost your

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43:27

243. MS Red Light Therapy for Nerve Repair &...

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2025/07/30

In this episode, I’m thrilled to welcome Dr. Genevieve Newton, chiropractor, PhD, and Scientific Director at Fringe, to dive deep into the science of red light therapy for multiple sclerosis (MS). We discuss how red and near-infrared light therapy can help with nerve repair, reduce inflammation, boost energy, and improve common MS symptoms like fatigue, pain, and drop foot. Dr. Newton explains the benefits of using evidence-based red light therapy routines, what to look for in quality red

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21:09

242. How to NOT Overdo Exercise with MS: 7 Strategies...

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2025/07/23

In this episode, I’m sharing my top 7 strategies as a Multiple Sclerosis Physical Therapist to help you avoid overdoing exercise with MS. We’ll dive into how to recognize the signs of overexertion, ways to modify your workout routine, and practical tips you can use right away to manage fatigue and prevent symptom flare-ups. You’ll learn how to build smart exercise plans for good, average, and tough days, and discover simple ways to adapt your MS exercise routine for lasting strength and

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17:02

241. The Rule of 2: How to Stop Compensating and Use...

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2025/07/16

In this episode, I’m sharing my “Rule of 2” method—a powerful strategy to help you stop overcompensating and start using your real strength with multiple sclerosis (MS). If you often find yourself relying on your arms to lift your leg or pushing off armrests to stand up, you’re not alone! I’ll walk you through how to become more aware of these habits and give you practical tips so you can retrain your brain and body for better mobility and functional strength.Join me as I explain why just

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23:51

240. 10 Common Triggers That Worsen MS Symptoms: A...

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2025/07/09

In this episode, I’m diving into the 10 most common triggers that can worsen MS symptoms and sharing practical tips on how to manage them! As a physical therapist who specializes in helping people with multiple sclerosis (MS) get stronger and walk better, I break down factors like heat, fatigue, stress, infections, diet, and more.You’ll discover actionable strategies to identify your own MS symptom triggers, plus expert advice for improving mobility, strength, and energy. If you want to

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30:34

239. MS Nerve Pain and Menopause: Neurologist Dr....

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2025/07/02

In this episode, I’m thrilled to welcome back Dr. Aaron Boster, a renowned MS neurologist, to dive deep into MS nerve pain and the impact of menopause on multiple sclerosis. We break down the different types of MS pain, including neuropathic pain, the infamous “MS hug,” and even symptoms like pathologic itching and formication.Dr. Boster also shares expert strategies and treatment options for managing MS nerve pain, including physical therapy, medications, topical creams, and

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26:09

238. MS Conference Diaries: My Real Experience...

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2025/06/25

In this episode, I’m taking you behind the scenes of my recent experience at the annual MS Conference in Phoenix, Arizona! Even though I was sick the whole time (yes, really!), I couldn’t miss the chance to learn about the latest in multiple sclerosis research, mobility breakthroughs, and MS exercise strategies.If you’re looking for new ways to improve your strength, mobility, and quality of life with MS, you’ll love this inside look! Join me for expert insights, practical tips, and a few

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31:30

237. How to Reduce Performance Anxiety with MS with...

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2025/06/18

In this episode, I’m joined again by my twin sister, Samantha Hawley, a mindset and clarity coach, as we dive deep into the topic of performance anxiety for people living with multiple sclerosis (MS).We discuss the emotional and mental struggles that can come from worrying about how you walk in public and what others might be thinking. Samantha shares practical journaling and mindset strategies you can use before, during, and after challenging situations—helping you shift your focus away

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27:02

236. MS Mobility Aid Exercises: How to Get Stronger...

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2025/06/11

In this episode, I’m sharing how your cane, trekking poles, or rollator can actually make you stronger—not weaker!As a physical therapist specializing in multiple sclerosis (MS), I often hear concerns about becoming dependent on mobility aids. But with the right exercises for MS and strength-building strategies, these aids can help improve mobility, balance, and confidence while walking with MS. Tune in as I break down four specific MS-friendly exercises you can do with your mobility aid,

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15:16

235. The Quiet Courage of Living with MS: Finding...

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2025/06/04

In this heartfelt episode, I share a personal story that beautifully illustrates the quiet courage it takes to live with multiple sclerosis (MS). Reflecting on my nephew’s brave moment at his pre-K graduation, I draw powerful parallels to the daily resilience shown by people with MS. Tune in as I discuss how living with MS means consistently showing up, even on the tough days, and why it’s so important to acknowledge your incredible strength. Whether you’re managing MS symptoms, seeking MS

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16:53

234. Why Manual Muscle Testing Could Miss Your Real...

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2025/05/28

In this episode, I’m diving into a heartfelt discussion inspired by a client’s experience with Manual Muscle Testing (MMT) and why traditional strength tests may not always reflect real progress when living with multiple sclerosis (MS). I share practical, research-driven strategies and MS-specific exercises that have helped my clients improve their mobility, walking, and overall strength—even when their medical tests didn’t show the full picture.Tune in to discover why your own experiences

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28:50

233. Dr. Boster's 5 for 5 MS Management Framework:...

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2025/05/21

In this episode, I’m thrilled to welcome back Dr. Aaron Boster, he is a board-certified Neurologist specializing in Multiple Sclerosis and related CNS inflammatory disorders.Dr. Boster joins me to share his powerful ‘5 for 5’ framework—five essential strategies to slow MS progression and improve your quality of life with multiple sclerosis. We break down each pillar: smoking cessation, exercise, nutrition, mindfulness, and choosing the most effective disease-modifying therapy. Dr. Boster

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37:22

232. The 5 Muscle Groups Most Affected by MS: What...

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2025/05/14

In this episode, I’m breaking down the 5 muscle groups most commonly affected by multiple sclerosis (MS)—and what you need to know for better mobility. As a physical therapist specializing in MS, I’ll walk you through why your hip flexors, knee flexors, knee extensors, ankle dorsiflexors, and calf muscles are so crucial to your strength and independence. I share expert tips on recognizing weakness or tightness in these areas, plus practical MS-specific exercises and stretches you can try

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34:30

231. Hidden MS Symptoms: The Early Warning Signs Your...

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2025/05/07

In this episode, I’m diving into the hidden MS symptoms and early warning signs that your doctor might miss. As a physical therapist specializing in multiple sclerosis, I’ve seen how subtle issues like cognitive changes, autonomic nervous system disruptions, and neurologically based mood alterations often go unnoticed for years before an MS diagnosis. I’ll break down these lesser-known MS symptoms, share real stories from my clients, and help you understand what to look for—so you can have

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16:05

230. 3 Immediate Solutions for MS Bladder Problems...

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2025/04/30

In this episode, I’m diving into three immediate solutions for MS bladder problems that actually work! If you’re experiencing urinary incontinence, frequency, urgency, or bowel symptoms related to multiple sclerosis, I share practical tips you can start using today. Learn about the science behind lowering your heels, breathing techniques using a straw, and shifting your mindset around urgency—each based on physical therapy principles proven to help those with MS.As a physical therapist who

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