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The MSing Link

Dr. Gretchen Hawley PT, DPT, MSCS

Do you have Multiple Sclerosis and have goals of improving your mobility, energy, and motivation? On this show, you’ll learn MS-specific exercises and symptom management strategies to help you gain control over your life with MS. I also bring in other MS Experts in the healthcare industry to share their insights and advice so you’ll be armed with research-driven education. You’ll leave each episode feeling empowered and ready to take action!

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All Episodes

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305. Stop Guessing: What MS Exercises Actually Help

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2026/10/07

In this solo episode, I'm answering one of the most common questions I hear from MSing Link members and people living with multiple sclerosis (MS): "What exercises should I do if my goal is ___?" Whether you want to walk up slopes, climb stairs with more strength, turn without losing your balance, or stand up from the couch without plopping, I'm sharing the two-step thought process I use as an MS-specialized physical therapist… so you can build an MS exercise routine that matches your

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39:23

304. Electrical Stimulation for MS: Can It Help Foot...

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2026/09/30

I'm so excited to welcome Dr. Mandy Jacques, PT, DPT, MSCS, a physical therapist and Multiple Sclerosis Certified Specialist, for an in-depth conversation about electrical stimulation (e-stim) for multiple sclerosis (MS). We talk about the Neubie device from NeuFit, how it's used, and how it fits into a real-life exercise routine.Here's what we cover 🔑: → What is electrical stimulation for MS? E-stim sends a gentle electrical current through pads on your skin to activate your nerves and

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19:34

303. The 7 Types of Rest Every Person With MS Should...

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2026/09/23

If multiple sclerosis (MS) fatigue has you sleeping eight hours and still waking up empty… this episode is for you.In this episode, I'm sharing my own recent experience with unexpected rest (the kind you don't plan for) and why understanding the seven types of rest changes how you manage MS fatigue. Not in a "just take a nap" way, in a "here's what's actually draining you and here's what refills it" way. Here's what we cover 🔑: MS fatigue vs. regular tiredness. These are not the same

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37:21

302. Is Your MRI Telling the Full Story? A New Way to...

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2026/09/16

If you've ever walked out of an MRI appointment still wondering what's actually happening inside your body right now… this episode is for you.In this episode, I'm joined by Jennifer Chester, a neurology nurse practitioner who works with Octave Bioscience, to talk about a blood test (available in the US) built specifically for multiple sclerosis (MS). Not a diagnostic test, and not a replacement for your MRI. It's a way to measure MS disease activity between scans, using proteins in your

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17:14

301. How to Choose the Right Mobility Aid for MS...

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2026/09/09

If walking is taking more out of you than it used to… this episode is for you.In this solo episode, I'm walking you through how to choose the right mobility aid when you have multiple sclerosis (MS). Canes, trekking poles, walkers, rollators, and wheelchairs. This isn't a ranked list of products. It's my top strategy for figuring out what your body actually needs, so you're not spending money on something that sits in the closet. Here's what we cover 🔑: The one question to ask before you

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27:19

300. 300th Episode: Progress Is Possible With MS:...

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2026/09/02

300 episodes ago, I hit record for the first time and hoped a handful of people living with multiple sclerosis (MS) would find something useful in it.Now there are people in 27 countries doing these exercises. Some of you have been here since episode 1. Some of you found us last week, three days after diagnosis, at 2am, looking for anything that made sense. This one is for you. I'm not teaching a new exercise this week. I'm sharing what's actually worked for people in this community, and

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49:25

299. MS & Vibration Plates: Benefits, Risks, and How...

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2026/08/26

If MS has your legs feeling tight, heavy, or slow to respond… this episode is for you.In this episode, I'm joined by vibration therapy expert Debbie Pelletier to answer the questions I get asked most about vibration plates and multiple sclerosis (MS). Not in a "here's a fancy piece of equipment" way. In a "here's what's actually happening in your body, here's how to use it, and here's what to check before you spend the money" way. Here's what we cover 🔑: What is vibration plate therapy,

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20:45

298. Why You Feel Like a Different Person in the...

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2026/08/19

If MS symptoms feel heavier in the summer… or after a hot shower, a walk in the sun, or a workout that didn't used to wipe you out, this episode is for you.In this episode, I'm walking you through heat sensitivity and heat intolerance in multiple sclerosis (MS). Why heat can make fatigue, brain fog, spasticity, and walking difficulties ramp up, what's actually happening inside your nerves when it does, and what you can do about it. Not in a "just stay inside until October" way. In a

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38:30

297. MS and Pregnancy: What Current Research Says...

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2026/08/12

If you're living with MS and wondering whether pregnancy is still on the table for you… this episode is for you.Maybe you just saw two lines on a test and your first thought wasn't joy, it was "what do I do about my medication?" Maybe you're a year out from trying and you want to plan this right. Either way, you deserve real answers, not a shrug. In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Christina Chambers, PhD, MPH, a perinatal epidemiologist and professor of pediatrics at UC San Diego. She has

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21:24

296. Why Planning Ahead Can Make Life With MS Feel...

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2026/08/05

If planning a simple outing with Multiple Sclerosis (MS) feels like juggling way more variables than it used to... this episode is for you.This one's personal. I'm sharing a bit of a reality check from my own life, and walking you through the practical strategies I use (and teach) for planning ahead with MS, so you can move through your day, your week, and even the holidays, with more independence and less second-guessing. Here's what we cover 🔑: Why planning ahead matters more with MS

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45:29

295. MS & Menopause: Are Your Symptoms Changing…or...

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2026/07/29

If you're a woman with multiple sclerosis (MS) and you've noticed your fatigue, brain fog, or word-finding trouble getting worse in your 40s or 50s… you're not imagining it. And you're not alone in this. In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Rhonda Voskuhl, a leading MS neurologist and menopause researcher from UCLA, to talk about something the MS community rarely hears explained clearly: what menopause is actually doing to your brain, and why it can look and feel so much like an MS

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45:49

294. Why Your Core Is More Important Than You Think...

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2026/07/22

If MS has left you feeling like your body is folding forward… this episode is for you.In this episode, I'm walking you through the connection between posture, core strength, and daily function for people with Multiple Sclerosis (MS). Not in a textbook way, in a "here's what's actually happening in your body and here's what to do about it" way. Here's what we cover 🔑: Does your core matter? Your core isn't just abs. It's the group of muscles that stabilizes your trunk so your arms and legs

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15:01

293. Your MS Routine Might Not Be Working Anymore...

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2026/07/15

In this solo episode, I'm sharing a lightbulb moment I had recently... one that made me realize how easy it is to slip into autopilot with our routines when we're living with multiple sclerosis. You know the feeling. You're doing the same 10 exercises you've done for the last two years. Same stretches. Same breakfast. Same everything. Not because it's what your body needs right now, but because it's what you started doing back when you first got serious about your MS. Here's the thing..

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52:02

292. MS Mindset Shifts with Damian Washington

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2026/07/08

Okay, I've been looking forward to sharing this one with you. In this episode, I'm chatting with Damian Washington about something I know so many of you wrestle with... how do you stay motivated when you're working toward goals with multiple sclerosis (MS) and the progress feels slow, or a setback knocks you back a few steps? Damian and I get into the good stuff. We talk about the power of repetition (spoiler: it matters way more than pushing yourself to the max), and why you really need

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22:05

291. You're Stronger Than You Think: Dr. Gretchen's...

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2026/07/01

I'm back, and this is my first episode recording since going on maternity leave and welcoming my second daughter into the world. So many of you in The MSing Link and on social media have been asking about my birth story, and I wanted to share part of it with you. But this episode is about so much more than childbirth. It's about realizing how strong you already are… even if you've forgotten it. Especially if you don't feel it. In this episode, I share: → The arrival of Scarlett Townsend,

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16:10

290. From Me to You: Pep Talk

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2026/06/24

If you're someone with MS who knows exercise matters but can't seem to stay consistent… this episode is your pep talk. We've all been there. You start the week with the best intentions, then by Wednesday the negative self-talk creeps in: "I'm too tired." "It's not working." "What's the point?" Sound familiar? Here's the thing, exercise is one of the most powerful tools we have for improving mobility, strength, and independence with multiple sclerosis (MS). But the way you talk to yourself

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21:15

289. Clonus with MS: Why It Happens + How to Calm It...

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2026/06/17

If you've ever been sitting on the couch, just minding your business, and suddenly your leg starts bouncing like it has a mind of its own… you're not imagining it. That's clonus. And it's one of the most misunderstood symptoms of multiple sclerosis (MS).In this episode of The MSing Link Podcast, I'm walking you through everything you need to know about clonus with MS… what it actually is, why it happens (hint: it's that wifi connection between your brain and your muscles getting a little

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18:09

288. Why Your Movement Isn’t Improving (And What to...

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2026/06/10

Ever feel like you're getting stronger… but your walking, your balance, your daily movement just isn't catching up? You're not imagining it. And you're definitely not alone. In this episode, I'm breaking down one of the most common frustrations I hear from people with multiple sclerosis (MS): you're putting in the work — biking, lifting, going to physical therapy — but it's not translating to the things that actually matter in your day. Walking to the mailbox. Standing up from a chair

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38:34

287. Let’s Talk About MS Spasticity: Causes,...

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2026/06/03

In this solo episode, I'm getting into one of the most common (and most misunderstood) multiple sclerosis symptoms… MS spasticity.If your legs feel heavy, your muscles lock up, or you've been told it's "just tightness"… this one is for you. I'll walk you through what spasticity actually is, what's happening in your body when it shows up, and why it can have such a big impact on your daily life and mobility. We'll cover: → The Modified Ashworth Scale (and what those numbers really mean) →

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20:04

286. Foot Drop Explained

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2026/05/27

If MS has ever made your toe catch on the carpet, or you've felt that frustrating slap of your foot hitting the floor before you meant it to… this episode is for you. I'm walking you through what foot drop actually is, why it happens with multiple sclerosis (MS), and how it shows up in your walking and your fall risk. As an MS-specialized physical therapist, I'm breaking down the most common causes I see in my members — weakness in the ankle muscles, tight calves, sensory changes, and

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