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Law and Disorder

Law and Disorder is a new weekly podcast looking at the biggest issues in the news through the prism of the law. We"ve brought together three of the UK"s best legal minds: recently retired High Court judge Sir Nicholas Mostyn, barrister and human rights campaigner Baroness Helena Kennedy, and Charlie Falconer, a Labour peer and former Lord Chancellor.Subscribe now for weekly episodes disentangling the thorniest of subjects, from Rishi Sunak"s Rwanda bill to the situation in Gaza, via Post Office

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42:05

AI and the Law

Law and Disorder ·

2025/05/17

On this week's episode of Law & Disorder we're considering one of the big societal issues of the 2020s: the emergence of Artificial Intelligence (AI). What challenges does it pose the law? And what possible advantages could be reaped? Will it be used to augment current practices? Or will it entirely refashion how the law works? To discuss this, our intrepid trio are joined by Richard Susskind, a leading lawyer and author of How to Think About AI, and Gregory Mostyn, co-founder of a legal tool,

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40:28

Prosecuting Fraud

Law and Disorder ·

2025/05/10

What are the challenges of prosecuting fraud, in cases where the disclosure documents might make War and Peace look like a flimsy little pamphlet? That's the question being consider this week on Law & Disorder and to get to the heart of this, the gang – Nicholas Mostyn, Charlie Falconer and Helena Kennedy – are joined by James Hines KC, one of the country's most experienced lawyers specialising in fraud. From subjects like juries' comprehension of complex technical details to whether young

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39:24

David Irving v Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt: 25...

Law and Disorder ·

2025/05/03

This April marks the 25th anniversary of a landmark case in which the British historian and Holocaust denier David Irving sued American Professor Deborah Libstadt, and her publisher Penguin Books, for defamation. What proceeded was a 9 week trial which established a definitive judgment on Irving's historiography – not to mention his anti-semitism. For this special episode of Law & Disorder, Nicholas Mostyn, Charlie Falconer and Helena Kennedy convene at the offices of Mishcon de Reya in front of

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33:05

For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers

Law and Disorder ·

2025/04/25

This week, the Supreme Court passed its judgment on the case of For Women Scotland Ltd v The Scottish Ministers. The case challenged the assumed definitions of 'man' and 'woman' in the Equality Act 2010 and has provoked considerable commentary. The Supreme Court's verdict – delivered by Lord Hodge – appears to have vindicated the the campaigning of For Women Scotland, and other 'gender critical' organisations, beliefs about the primacy of biological sex. But could the verdict have unintended

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34:25

Barbara Mills KC: Raising the Bar

Law and Disorder ·

2025/04/12

Our guest today, Barbara Mills KC, is the new Chair of the Bar Council, the first black woman to hold this post in the organisation's 131-year history. She is also one of the few family lawyers to assume this role, giving her a unique perspective of the challenges facing barristers in the present moment. She joins the Law & Disorder trio – Nicholas Mostyn, Helena Kennedy and Charlie Falconer – for a conversation about the state of play in our legal system, and whether more can be done to ensure

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44:33

Dr Charlotte Proudman v the Old Boys' Club

Law and Disorder ·

2025/04/05

Our special guest on today's episode of Law & Disorder is Dr Charlotte Proudman, a family law barrister, campaigner, and author of a new book, He Said She Said: Truth, Trauma and the Struggle for Justice in Family Court. In this interview, Helena Kennedy, Nicholas Mostyn and Charlie Falconer explore Charlotte's history with the law, some of her most striking cases, and the key question of whether the bar is still a fundamentally misogynistic institution. If you have questions, criticisms, praise

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48:12

The Life and Times of Sir Brian Leveson

Law and Disorder ·

2025/03/28

Sir Brian Leveson has been one of the most publicly prominent legal minds of the 21st century. From his early days prosecuting the likes of Ken Dodd and Rose West, Sir Brian became a household name when he chaired the Leveson Inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the British press. In this wide-ranging interview, he talks to Nicholas Mostyn, Helena Kennedy and Charlie Falconer about his career, whether we need a Leveson Part Two, and his new role looking into the ongoing crisis in

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34:58

The Criminal Cases Backlog

Law and Disorder ·

2025/03/22

Our courts are in crisis, with a sentencing backlog stretching to unthinkable lengths. To discuss this issue, the Law & Disorder trio are joined by Alex Chalk KC, who was Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice until the summer, and Lord Thomas, a former Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales. They are proposed a radical new programme for dealing with this backlog, involving slimming down the trial process for more minor offences. Could this clear the backlog? Or does it risk

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27:44

Mailbag: Trump, tax and tenuous tidbits

Law and Disorder ·

2025/03/15

It's time for the Law and Disorder crew – Nicholas Mostyn, Charlie Falconer and Helena Kennedy – to plunge into the Mailbag once again and answer your correspondence. You've been appalled by Donald Trump's desecration of the rules-based order, delighted by Dan Neidle's forensic tax analysis, and otherwise moved to correspond on a wide range of issues. As ever, do keep the emails coming – we love to hear from you!If you have questions, criticisms, praise or other feedback, please do send your

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32:08

House of Lords Reform

Law and Disorder ·

2025/03/08

With two upper chamber inhabitants amongst our hosting roster, it seems only right that the Law and Disorder crew discuss reform to the House of Lords. Lord Falconer, Baroness Kennedy and (meagre) Sir Nicholas are joined by Tom Strathclyde, 2nd Baron Strathclyde, to interrogate the purpose of our unelected chamber and whether, after a 27-year grace period, the last hereditary peers might, finally, be headed for the door. This is a rambunctious debate, conducted in good/high spirits and the editor

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13:09

The Flight of the Tate Brothers

Law and Disorder ·

2025/02/28

Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan have been accused of serious crimes – including trafficking – in Romania, where they lived and have spent the past 2 years under a travel ban. Yet, this week the brothers flew to Florida after Romanian authorities returned their passports. Does this mean they will evade justice? How did the Romanian legal system allow this to happen? And what does this tell us about the further degradation of the rule of law in the United States under President Trump? Charlie

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30:13

The Collapse of the Rules-Based Order

Law and Disorder ·

2025/02/22

This week has seen further desecrations of the established order, led by President Trump, whose remarks about Russia and Ukraine have sent shockwaves across Europe and the world. Is the rules-based order collapsing? And can the law stand strong in the face of raw power being exerted so recklessly? Nicholas Mostyn, Helena Kennedy and Charlie Falconer convene to discuss an historic, and depressing, week.If you have questions, criticisms, praise or other feedback, please do send your thoughts to us via

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38:20

Israel and the Occupied Territories

Law and Disorder ·

2025/02/15

On this episode of Law & Disorder we welcome back Kenneth Roth, the distinguished former Executive Director of Human Rights Watch and author of the new book Righting Wrongs. Alongside Helena Kennedy, Charlie Falconer and Nicholas Mostyn, Professor Roth talks through the fraught legal situation surrounding the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and whether there's a resolution on the horizon.If you have questions, criticisms, praise or other feedback, please do send your thoughts to us

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36:47

Dan Neidle v Nadhim Zahawi

Law and Disorder ·

2025/02/08

Dan Neidle – poacher turned gamekeeper (although not in his own estimation) – has gone from Head of Tax at Clifford Chance to the scourge of tax shy plutocrats. He joins this week's Law & Disorder to sit down with Nicholas Mostyn, Helena Kennedy and Charlie Falconer and discuss his successes in revealing the dodgy dealings of a former-Chancellor of the Exchequer, as well as a certain Italian jockey. In the process, he has changed the standards of modern lawyering and become one of Britain's most

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19:14

Anonymity of Judges

Law and Disorder ·

2025/02/01

When the full, horrific details of the treatment of Sara Sharif, which culminated in her tragic death, came to light, an order was made to anonymised the family judges who had allowed her to return to her father's custody. The decision shocked the legal word and has been appealed by journalists and broadcasters, including Louse Tickle and Hannah Summers, who join Law & Disorder to discuss their case in the Court of Appeal, and whether judges should ever be granted anonymity as a protective

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21:12

President Trump and the Law

Law and Disorder ·

2025/01/24

Donald Trump is back in the White House after his historic re-election in November. At his inaugural speech this week, he laid out a manifesto for reinventing America, starting with some fundamental changes to the way that the law operates in the United States. What does he mean? Can he does this? And will the courts intervene? From denying asylum claims to changing America's established views on gender, President Trump is ploughing a controversial furrow. To discuss this, Nicholas Mostyn and Helena

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40:19

Financial Remedies on Divorce

Law and Disorder ·

2024/12/21

Hot off the presses, the Law Commission has produced a new report on the financial remedies available to divorcing couples. The Law & Disorder trio – Nicholas Mostyn, Helena Kennedy and Charlie Falconer – are joined by Professor Nick Hopkins, the report's commissioner, and Holly Symonds, a barrister specialising in family law, to discuss how the law can evolve to help ensure more equitable separations. If you have questions, criticisms, praise or other feedback, please do send your thoughts to

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24:10

Sara Sharif

Law and Disorder ·

2024/12/14

In 2023, a 10-year-old girl named Sara Sharif was murdered by her father and stepmother, the culmination of longstanding abuse she received. This week, verdicts were passed down in court, but, along with the findings, serious questions have been raised. Could the courts have done more to prevent Sara being left in such a transparently violent environment? What do we do when the apparent rights of the parents and children collide? And should the judge who placed Sara back with her father be named

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41:38

Racism and the Law

Law and Disorder ·

2024/12/07

On this week's episode of Law & Disorder, Nicholas Mostyn, Helena Kennedy and Charlie Falconer are joined in the House of Lords by Martin Forde KC, a veteran barrister and former recorder, to discuss the role that race plays in the criminal justice system. Martin discusses his own experiences as a black British lawyer, and the crew piece through David Lammy's 2017 report into the disastrous outcomes for people of colour in our courts and beyond.If you have questions, criticisms, praise or other

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36:51

The ICC Warrants Against Benjamin Netanyahu

Law and Disorder ·

2024/11/30

This week we have a special episode recorded immediately after the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued warrants against both leaders of Hamas and, more strikingly, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. To discuss this, we've dialled up Kenneth Roth, an expert in international law and former executive director of Human Rights Watch. Nicholas Mostyn and Charlie Falconer probe him on whether Israel can meaningfully be accused of genocide or other war crimes and human rights abuses, while

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