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Curious Creatures

Lol Tolhurst & Budgie

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk"s enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

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30:19

Celeste Bell Pt. 2: The Do-It-Yourself World of X-Ray...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/10/16

Exploding Suburban Myths Feminism, Formica and Friends Watch the curtains twitch for a brand-new switch Another music from a different day-glo kitchen Myriad, misogynistic, moustachioed men GermFree Adolescents! Poly’s lyrics reach out across time Don’t touch me please I can’t take the wants and needs! Poly sings Love songs and laments for the voiceless ones New Yorks a-Go-go! A formative experience for Poly and the boys Two gigs a night made a mind changing noise X-Ray Spex were the first

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36:10

Celeste Bell Pt. 1: The Eccentricity of Everyday People’

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2023/08/31

The Day The World Turned Day-Glo Celeste made a Film about her Mum Poly Styrene Six years in the Making ‘Twas A Labour of Love Clearing Permissions like Pulling Hen’s Teeth We Share the Frustration, the Push and the Shove GermFree Adolescents! Poly Adored Señor Salvador Dali His Port Lligat studio a Pilgrimage Place Young Lol’s French Girlfriend paraded her cat A cat on a lead with a smile on it’s face I Am a Cliché! Valuable Time Made a Difference Personal Real and True Honest and Believable

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34:07

Pt. 2: Bethany Cosentino Just Says Fuck It

Curious Creatures ·

2023/08/24

Who’s That Girl? Concentric Circles and Avoiding Repetition When The World Shutdown The Questioning Began Bethany had a Life Changing Awakening On-Screen-Only Relationships! Ice-Cold Bitch and Her July Jacket Bethany has some Secret Tea to Spill! Be Whatever You Want to Be! What’s Through Your Keyhole? Balancing Real Relationships! Space, Space, Space, and More Space! Professional Relationships – The Little Things become Mountains How Often do You Change your Socks? We Are Family – a Mental

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39:49

Bethany Cosentino Pt. 1: There’s a Million Freaks on...

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2023/08/17

How Much do you Do in Your car? Bethany lives in Her car - Bethany Loves LA! Lol loves LA too – LA has always looked after him Budgie thinks LA must love him too LA Keeps Calling him Back! Rent-A-Wreck! Budgie rents his first car in LA! Pick ‘n Mix of Environments Lol wants a Bolt Hole in the Desert Music was In the Stars for Bethany as a Young Punk! Bob The Dude Around Town! Catching up with The Thing! Gathering The Best Coast Buzz Digging Down beneath the Dark Underbelly of LA Among The

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25:38

Jacknife Lee Pt. 3: The Transformation of Horror to...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/08/10

Can AI make a Hit Record? Drummers talk about anything but Drumming Two of the Singers on Los Angeles are Drummers All we got to do is Act Naturally Things the Industry didn’t Understand Will new Technology Change Music Appreciation? More Means More! We love and Embrace Computers We love and Embrace Individuality We love and Embrace Cohesive Collaboration Now Cue the Music! Good Food and A Donut! Jacknife describes his Daily Process Everybody’s a Drummer – The International

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34:13

Jacknife Lee Pt. 2: Keeping 1000 Lights on for All

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2023/08/03

Neil Diamond put Stones in Jacknife’s shoes Musicians with No Stations - Anyone can do Anything Jacknife loves The Cure and The Banshees and Drums (We’re off to a Good Start!) Artists willing to Alienate - to do what they want! The Gender Change Box – Expanding the Arsenal! Documenting Discovery – Being a Band - Not a Brand The Cure’s 1st album was their live setlist On 17 Seconds they swapped instruments - No set formula Discussion is healthy but Discussion takes time! Vocalists are

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35:04

Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius

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2023/07/27

Jacknife never remembers the big moments. Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out! Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd! Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME! Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour Lol toured his book in South America to Arequipa in Peru. Q. Does Bono do impersonations? A. Yes, a very dark Rupert

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24:07

Wayne Hussey Pt. 2: Panic In Detroit!

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2023/07/20

Let me in - I’m in the band! It goes like this: Lol - Newcastle Holiday Inn – Sauna – Towel – Door – Fire Escape – Reception – Room-Key! Wayne - Bristol - Liverpool - Leeds – London – California – Brazil – Love - 20 Years! Lol – California – Home - 30 Years Ago - Home is Where the Ticker Tocks . The Circus was Excitement when we Moved from where we Started In a band it’s simpler to do what we do and Live anywhere Alan Vega a lonely man and a stranger in a strange land Budgie ran a Berlin

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36:50

Wayne Hussey Pt. 1: Mr Pussy and the Murdered Melon...

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2023/07/13

Budgie plays his Big Bass Harp The Cult and Subbuteo keep everyone Sharp Introducing a Liverpool theme You’ll Never Walk Alone, now choose your team! Lol delivered Newspapers for 25 Bob Delivering milk was Wayne’s other Job The Beeb Top 40 on Sundays recorded 5 Pounds a week a new album afforded David K Jones had a Brian Connolly haircut Young Budgie’s Skinhead made the Headmaster Tut! Banshees and Cure played soccer together The Cure played the crew but it made Heavy weather! Wayne played for

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27:24

Fat Mike Pt. 2: New Drumheads, Boiled Strings and...

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2023/07/06

Like Indian musicians, we tuned together Stroboscopic Tuners, revealed that we never Played a gig in Concert pitch - whatever. New drumheads were stolen Boiled bass strings saved money Pitch Pipes were our first harmonicas Riding White Swans We were Kids of the Revolution Thank the gods for glam and David Bowie The Sweet at the I-Beam and their 3-part harmonies Deep Purple and The Beach Boys combined That a good catchy song makes a band worth it’s char-monies. Took NOFX a decade to

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31:08

Fat Mike Pt. 1: Fat Mike Reveals His Underwear Live...

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2023/06/29

My 1st is in Punk but Never in Junk My 2nd is in Museum but never in Mausoleum My 3rd is a Shop of Tartan punk Underwear My 4TH is Shock of Electric Blue Head Hair Who am I? Lol has the stuff the Hall of Fame Loves Stan Laurel jokes follow Budgie like Doves Lol sounds Australian? Mike’s a Bostonian! We love San Francisco and the fog on The Bay We love the old iBeam and we love Lol’s son Gray The Cure and The Banshees played there in its Hey day Mike saw The Sweet there but we’d all gone

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19:19

Curious Questions: No Seats at The Dream Show!

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2023/06/16

Sad story for our friend in Turkey but we remain positive for a good end. Lol and Budgie hopped with Joy to see the Kodo drummers in concert Budgie met Kodo Principal Leonard Eto via prog rock legend Hoppy Kamiyama Leo and Budgie drummed and Hoppy vibed with Chaos tapes and the Hai! album was born In 1977 The Clash drummer Nicky ‘Topper’ Headon was Budgie’s inspiration! Lol’s mentor Andy McBride taught him the beats of The Clash Kraftwerk introduced us to new sounds and the beating heart of

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21:19

Curious Questions: On the Buses - Film Like!

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2023/06/08

Heavy Rotation for The Siouxsie Bus Party Linton Kwesi-Johnson - Forces of Victory Psychedelic Furs - India NIN - Pretty Hate Machine London’s Satellite Towns Swingin’ - Dodgy Policing the Numbskulls Mr Murphy with his baseball bat “Oi, cut it out son or your brown bread.” “Sorry Guv I’ll be leaving then.” Robert’s Red Vinyl Box Simon and Kate Bush’s ‘Hounds of Love’ Club Tolhurst and Club Smith Evelyn ‘Champagne’ king Shits and Giggles with Iron Maiden’s ‘Bring your Daughter to the

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39:09

Hamilton Leithauser and The Stone-Deaf Soundman

Curious Creatures ·

2023/06/01

Machine Gunners’ Ear No Elvis, Beatles, or The Rolling Stones in 1977 Bad brains, Minor Threat and Fugazi - at 14! Washington DC’s 9:30 Club, The Black Cat and Washington Plaza The Walkmen cometh in 2000 Eric’s Club matinee, it’s a drive-in Saturday, lots of creativity from NYC In A Forest or In Dust, the Walkmen place their trust, in the Siouxsie-Bob sound, merci! Bob and Lol’s brothers played music to be loud, discovering the rebel inside From Liverpool to Boston, no charm in the venues,

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36:53

Kele Okereke Pt. 2: The People I Remember…

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2023/05/05

‘The people I remember…’Mutual respect, the Bloc Party hadKele and collaborators, what’s good and what’s badTogether on tour, but then things changeRussell ‘n Kele retain musical respect Musical Respect is a necessary thing Banshees Guitarists, All the Young JohnsSpizz oil and the Banshees, It’s a Family Affair Kele and James Murphy and their traveling bands Having kids and Touring Keep us Peter Pan style. Chilli Pepper pals, Prodigal Sons ‘In the desert you can remember your name’‘Life’s What You

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39:50

Kele Okereke Pt. 1: The Traveling Circus of...

Curious Creatures ·

2023/04/27

Concentric Circles of Life and the Nightmare of BrexitKele from London via Edinburgh and Liverpool Budgie in France, London and BerlinLol in the USA for 25 yearsOld UK market towns when the pubs are closed Would anyone want a return to 70’s England? Out of Brussels - Nefarious reasons?Strawberries full of chemicals? Capitalism - Free labour?Big Agri eats labour Children pick berries - Human nature stagnates Automation stealing jobs - packing our bagsArmed response in Beverly Hills Belfast’s most

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33:43

Avey Tare Pt. 2: Nothing Lasts Forever - We Can’t...

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2023/04/20

Invisible Darlings - Fast piano Harpsichord music - Gregorian chant Pioneer days - with the Avant Garde We needed friends - Americans are friendly! Sleep? luxury - no sleep ‘til Hammersmith! Steak and Shake lady - Rambling about Lions Daniel’s den - Puts him in a better mood Lol and Budgie - protected from the banter Years of drumming makes hearing sparse! Four sevens Clash! - We’re all numerologists Playing each other’s instruments - in search of a tune Hawkwind’s Silver Machine and 7 by

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38:39

Avey Tare Pt. 1: Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?

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2023/04/13

Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it?Krautrock’s influence – Faust, Neu! and Amon Düül II Budgie mimics the white noise intro of Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’Lol moves from drums to keys and an early Apple Mac The Cure still Luddites for Pornography Live OMD and Echo and The BunnymenBudgie gave The Bunnymen a cymbalLol and Budgie and the Punk revolutionLoose electronics, unique sounds, and improvisationAvey & Animal Collective bend the Yamaha DX27 like Brian Eno! What’s the patch Today Kids? Animal

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51:10

Shirley Manson: Lol & Budgie love Shirley - True!

Curious Creatures ·

2023/04/06

Wild is the Wind & VulnerabilityBudgie is Shirley’s all-time favourite Drummer of her all-time favourite Band!Budgie Blushes in glorious Surround-SoundWhen Garbage played their first London show in 1995Budgie was moshing in the pit with Banshees’ Billy ChainsawShirley felt as overwhelmed as Budgie did by Bowie Golden Years30 Big ones and Shirley couldn’t have dreamed it25 Big ones for Lol in his old LA chairShirley loves Lol saying ‘Butch’ in his best Scottish accent A Hard time in LA during

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35:08

Meg Myers Pt. 2: Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!

Curious Creatures ·

2023/03/30

Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul!Changing is Challenging - Crazy and Uncomfortable Letting go of everything - Accelerate the Spiritual Meg finds less companionship – and a big shift in people’s attitudesFinding a better way – with People that healBudgie experiences healing - Negating Negativity As we get better, better things happen Lol is Awake - Right Now!Meg stops to smell the flowersDiscovers the new in familiar places to find inspiration Don’t force it - Don’t plan it‘Hell is other

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