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Curious Creatures

Lol Tolhurst & Budgie

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk"s enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

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37:23

Peter Ulrich Pt. 2: But - We are Not The Kitchen...

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2024/04/18

Intense but Brief! Lisa Gerrard followed by Liz Fraser Peter in Heaven with the Cocteau Twins Artwork for Goth and 4AD - Football is The Key Surely not - Australian rules football of course! Wheeltappers and Shunters Clubs! 3 gigs a night and it all paid off Budgie’s clubland experience leads the way The Essence of Punk was to throw away the rule book It was Rough Down Under & Lisa played Solo! Championing The Underdog! From Street fights to The Stage – Loyalty was demanded Peter was The

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36:01

Peter Ulrich Pt. 1: Three Unexpected Drummers!

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2024/04/11

Carpets and Bass Drums! Strokes of Luck that Changed our Lives The Cure became Judges with a bunch of Fives We all took numbers, and we all took a Name They were all unreadable when the next day Came The Journey is The Thing! Does anyone know the Way? There’s got to be a way Fake it to Make it, then Lock it away The Highs and Lows that made it Work Difficult relationships created the Quirk! The Bells are Ringing for me and My Pal! A Constant Support from the Chaos Outside The Rarity of

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39:55

Nabil Ayers Pt. 2: How Could We Not? – This Is the Time!

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2024/04/04

Affairs of The Heart - an American Thing! Shifting perspectives, but Who Are We? When Confronted with the Evidence, What Is Reality? Everyone was there Except, the one Telling the Story! Every Picture tells a Story – but is it TRUE? How Do We keep Sane? Uphill both ways and lots of Old Man Sheet! We’re Still on the Road – Who’s making The Coffee? Grumpy Old Men? – No, we’re Coming Home! Disinfectant in the Morning – Not for the Faint Hearted! How Do We keep Healthy? The things you Find on Tour

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38:34

Nabil Ayers Pt. 1: Sheet – We Need To Get Back In

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2024/03/31

Los Angeles Goes Out - Not Up! Reinvigoration and we’re running up that hill, But are we in the wrong sort of bungalow – Bill? It was pots and pans and party time when Nabil was only two! Happy House on Top of the Pops showed Budgie’s Ratamacue! Drum lessons on the roof – of the National Geographic! Inside the Hallowed world of the drummer’s secret handshake All the drummers in Pasadena put together make an earthquake A Night in the Museum with an Egyptian sort of sound Genesis and Focus on the

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31:39

Reggie Watts Pt. 2: Out Of The Melting Pot Into The Fire

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2024/03/21

Love it to Death! Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Led Zeppelin too Adam Ant, B.A.D., Def Leppard and Yazoo? All vying for airtime in Great Falls Montana Would Lol’s Studded catsuit have raised a Hosanna? Hey, What do You Do? What is it that makes Reggie choose to risk all? When counting a song in, could make a heart stall It’s not a choice, it’s to brandish, the spiritual sword It’s the old familiar wave, ‘neath an old surfer’s board. How do You Stay Optimistic? Get yourself some Private Ai –

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38:12

Reggie Watts Pt. 1: Kick Out The Jams Thumbsuckers

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2024/03/14

Springtime for Ex-Pats and Germany! It’s a Top Techno scene, with a strict Social Etiquette The clubs are all clean, since they outlawed the cigarette You can do what you want, but you can’t do it here The clubs are all great, but it helps if they’re Queer! Make way for the Dancing Disco Queens! Gay clubs for young punks, were the only safe places Watch out for the Queens with that look on their faces Rubber and Fetish was the dress code for sure The Batcave was entered through a coffin shaped

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32:30

Curious Creatures Curious Quotations: Our Life in the...

Curious Creatures ·

2024/03/07

1st Gush. It’s all Greek in Brackets. Tokyo in stereo to the spirit of Ghosts. The sample debate and the bones of contention continue. No loops or samples except of ourselves. We get going as human beatboxes. 2nd Gosh. Are drums electric? Are drummers eclectic? Voices on the Air? We got Wooden Teeth! Ladies and Gentlemen, we give you The Sonic Poem. We were Born to Funk! 3rd Push. Cold Sweat Papa’s Got a Brand New Bag and its only Rock & Roll but we like it. Head on The Door’s Sang-witches make

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39:13

Butch Vig Pt. 2: Fastest Blade in the West! ‘King of...

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2024/02/29

‘Butch - He got the Hooks!’Topper Headon – He got the Grooves Inspiration and Collaboration Clash! Butch got that magic Snare Fill! But our Hats go Off to Topper Headon! 'Butch as President of The Roxy Music fan club!’ King of the Fills? – Roxy’s Paul Thompson Caution the New drummer - Don’t Forget Those Hooks!! Phil Manzanera - a Guitarist on Fire But Bryan Ferry - the King of Cool. ‘Meanwhile… Up in The Canyon’ Our Evening Star, became Another Green World We talked about Food and our

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40:52

Butch Vig Pt 1: The Changing of The Guard From The...

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2024/02/22

Bill or George, Anything but Sue! Clyde Stubblefield always arrived early Clyde made a so-so kit sound Great! How do the Greats sound the Way they Do? It’s all about Recognising the Good Mistakes! 3am Insomnia and the IQ Tour drop! Hey Butch, what’s on the Weather Channel tonight? How’s Your Bed of Nails this Evening? Shirley is a Natural Born Road Dog, OMG, when the Catering is terrible - Luxury! Whilst Shirley was Doing the Dishes! Butch arranged Tea at the London Ritz They talked about Food

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51:24

Curious Questions: We are the Goon Squad and we're...

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2024/02/15

Phase 1. In which The Cramps’ Brian Gregory, gets on the Banshees’ tour bus outside the I-Beam in San Francisco and asks, “Was anyone in Liverpool not cool?” A Dark devilish spirit with feet like Merce Cunningham. Phase 2. In which Billy McKensie spares Lol from Death in Venice. Billy in The Cure’s penthouse for Faith singing songlines from another time, another place. Phase 3. In which Ms Morrissey is Queen of backstage and you’ll just have to wait. Well excuse us for Breathing, say us Dudes

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47:48

Travel Channel: Pan Amsterdam: A Trumpet and a Laptop...

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2024/02/08

‘Fanfares and Tears’ Pan as Magician of Inspiration Brings Joy and Melancholy by Transmogrification Pan gets Deeper then Deeper than Deep! ‘Digging in the Dirt - to find the Places we got Hurt’ ‘Prepare for the Big Reveal’ In front of the TV Going through Puberty Fluorescent Erotica as Manhood dawns Between the Adult and the Child Lies the Hissing of Summer Lawns ‘Sanctuary of the WC?’ Up the Ladder to the Roof Where Pan can hear Heaven much better Spontaneous Social Interactions The Things that

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30:29

Noche Oscura/Train with No Station: A Song from ‘The...

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2024/02/01

Brutality! Everything fitting as we’re thrashing about Looking for Clues as we Twist and Shout California dreaming no Communication Breakdown Lol knocks a beat out and we go Downtown! Religion! 20 seconds Over Babaluma It’s Metal Machine Madness Who’s in the Big box? Drums and Love are All around And a Dancebeat! Is Bigger better or is Better Bigger? Jack the Knife is the One and Only Clean or Dry we venture into Geeksville Thought train set in Motion - Don’t miss the Ferry! A Chicory

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47:39

Fred Armisen Pt. 2: Who Hugged Fred in NYC? Then...

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2024/01/25

Dream (a Little Dream of Tea!) Shopping Mall testimonials, but.. Lol just wants to buy a shirt! Recognition comes when you least expect it Budgie’ll name that song in Three!!! Fame (What you Need You Have to Borrow!) On the Way Up or On the Way Down? How is that Old Band of Yours? My Grandad Loves you guys Fred Incognito in Las Vegas Liverpool (She's so Swishy in her Satin and Tat!) Fred hears the Gossip direct from the Birdie’s beak The Bird had heard Not much had Changed Form a Band and

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36:09

Fred Armisen Pt. 1: Meet the Gang coz’ The Boys are...

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2024/01/18

The Boys to Entertain You! TV Pirates at Midnight! Fred was Envious of High-Class English chocolate Time for the Test card and a little light Music Rattle Your Jewellery at The London Palladium The Only house on the block with Colour TV First Drum Kits! Where did we hide them? Budgie’s patent Caterpillar dampening system Lol’s kit Hidden in Robert’s house Made with Rubber? from Lol’s Lab job. First Influences! Fred hears the Magical Mystery Tour in Rio! Budgie hears the Magical Mystery Tour in

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39:41

Bodies: Mary Lattimore Pt. 2: There are no wrong...

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2023/12/21

Bands, commitments, and brilliant haircuts Thurston Moore and Romantic Fantasy Driving and dreaming of being a band Or a solo career on the Canyon Grand The Cure climbed out over Niagara Falls. The Banshees below in yellow Sou’westers Happy memories for the Xmas cards Covered in spray when both stopped to Play ‘One could have it all!’ says Budgie, solo in San Tropez Alone but not lonely, beneath a Mediterranean moon Reaching out for a connection and kindred spirits With an ET stare into

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26:30

Bodies: Mary Lattimore Pt. 1: Mushrooms in the dark-...

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2023/12/03

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45:45

Uh Oh: Mark Bowen (IDLES) and the Attack of the...

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2023/11/16

Brutalism! Expression, impressions and Thrashing About Body and Rhythms - finding the Space Favourite guitarists are all really Bad Everything sounding off-kilter and never in Place Joy as an Act of Resistance! Impact and choosing the Moment Being Quiet to being Profound Convergence from Differing Influences Drums are Preferred All round Ultra Mono! Marc can be Chaotic and Indefinite! On Foundations of Solid Bass and Drum But where is the ONE! When you Need it? Turning Left when it’s

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48:03

Uh Oh: Arrow de Wilde: Starcrawler – Float Like A...

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2023/11/09

Uh Oh – Here We Go! Writing a song usually takes So Long Jacknife had a melody and the music was strong Arrow had ideas for words on her Phone She Dived in Fearless and Created The Zone Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Cherry Bomb! Arrow started out as A Drummer And knew the Drummer’s Importance Lol could have sung like Joe Strummer But Arrow’s Passion was Performance Arrow and The Ants! Planning the Stage and the Things that need Care California was lost in a Shoe-gaze Stare Starcrawler first played

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30:37

We Got To Move: Isaac Brock: Happy days in the...

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2023/11/02

25 years after the event he would be free. On his porch in Portland, Oregon Destroying the wood. Looking legit in the jail jumpsuit Banging cans and smashing cars up In the rage room Remodeled his kitchen with a bowling ball A disaster Issac was as excited about singing on our record as were we having him on the record Steve Severin's dance the Mussolini house party Syncopate stuff Budgie born to beat box Our fav line is "it's eleven not noon, checkout is soon" No check in until 4pm

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26:55

Ghosted at Home feat. Bobby Gillespie: ‘Hoppin’ and...

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2023/10/26

One of us changed - One stayed the same Let’s start at the very beginning The Spirit and Magic of it A Simple process - A Breakdown of Sorts Boom Boom Boom Boom Time after time after time after time Composite born of Scribbles and Noise Three Ideas with Strange Titles Begat Three lyrics and Melodies Lol’s Impersonation of a Small dog My nervous system collapsing like buildings Bobby asked, ‘Have you got any Lyrics?’ We said, ‘Surprise us!’ Dipping in During Lock-Down Using Lyrics as Drummers

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