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The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

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Ep 519 – There Is No Such Thing as Correct Body...

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2025/08/05

How exactly are we supposed to hold our bodies so that we don't hurt ourselves and have a long, healthy career? In this episode, Allison dives into the difference between "correct" and "good", tackles the 3 major components of understanding body mechanics, and contemplates what is truly at our core. Want to tap into finding your best approach? This is the episode for you! Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com            Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com

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15:12

Ep 518 – Baby Steps in Budget Management: “Business...

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2025/08/01

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24:07

Ep 517 – Myofascial Expansions with Rachelle Clauson...

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2025/07/29

The musculoskeletal system is at the heart of anatomy education for most massage therapists. But when we add the fascial system, how does that change the movement story? In this episode, Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley discuss a lesser known part of the force transmitting system of the human body: the myofascial expansion—precise anatomical connections where skeletal muscles insert into fascia, not just bones. These fascial connections amplify muscular force and provide crucial neuromuscular

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29:55

Ep 516 – What Inspires You to Help Others with...

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2025/07/22

Join Kristin Coverly as she speaks with the 2024 Massage is for EveryBody award winners about what inspires them to give back to their communities, as well as their advice for how you can get started, too! Resources: ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/ ABMP Massage is for EveryBody Week: https://www.abmp.com/massage-week-intro 2024 Massage is for EveryBody Winners: https://www.abmp.com/massage-week-awards-2024 Healwell’s Massage Palliative Advanced Training for Healthcare (MPATH):

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15:59

Ep 515 – Budget-Coach Reality: “Business or Pressure”...

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2025/07/18

Getting “good at money” doesn’t happen overnight. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines shares the financial ups and downs of the last year and the skills that got her through. Resources: What It's Like to Be...A Massage Therapist, https://www.whatitsliketobe.com/2246914/episodes/17326674-a-massage-therapist Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner. You can find her building websites and coaching massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com. Author links:

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14:08

Ep 514 – LAD Stent: “I Have a Client Who . . .”...

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2025/07/15

A client has a recently placed stent in their left anterior descending branch of the coronary artery. The therapist isn’t clear about safety. What to do—get permission to work? Or get information to work safely? (You get two guesses, and one of them doesn’t count.) This episode explores a helpful communication to establish client safety—and an example to us all! Resources: I Have a Client Who: Femoral Artery Stent (episode 77) I Have a Client Who: Cardiac Catheter (episode 297) I Have a

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13:13

Ep 513 – The Piriformis, The TFL, and Sitting: “The...

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2025/07/08

Sitting is shockingly not good for your hips. Not that we need to stop sitting, but we do need to take a closer look at what happens when we cross our legs—specifically to the piriformis and the tensor fascia latae (TFL). In this episode of The Rebel MT, join Allison Denney as she compares the TFL to French cheese and the piriformis to a salty rope tethered to an anchor and unwraps how to unravel them from years of leg-crossing habits. Host Bio:         Contact Allison

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20:49

Ep 512 – Touch as a Form of Communication with Doug...

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2025/06/24

In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson shares how touch, like language, is a powerful form of communication. From verbal and somatic expression to the importance of presence and responsiveness, Doug explains how touch can say just as much as your voice. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in massage therapy in 1977. Seeing over 1,200 client visits annually for decades, he is also the owner of BodyWork Associates, a

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24:58

Ep 511 – How to Choose Volunteer Jobs (or Not):...

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2025/06/20

Small business owners are often asked to donate money, time, and skills to various events and causes. Business or Pressure host Allisa Haines walks through the factors to consider before you commit to giving your work away. Resources: Chris Widlund Owner, CranioSacral practitioner at Stillpoint in VT https://www.stillpointvt.com/ Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner. You can find her building websites and coaching massage therapists at

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12:31

Ep 510 – The Mobility Matrix: “The Rebel MT” with...

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2025/06/10

What even is mobility? Host Allison Denney is so glad you asked! Join Denney on this episode of The Rebel MT to hang out with Neo, follow the white rabbit, take the red pill, and uncover the matrix that is mobility. Pro tip—thinking about green lines of numbers and equations surrounding your clients’ joints makes it way more fun. Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com            Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com                    Allison Denney is a certified massage

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Ep 509 – Balancing Feelings and Objectivity in...

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2025/06/06

Decisions are often made with emotion. In this episode of Business or Pressure, Allissa Haines presents some questions to ask yourself to help make better decisions in your business. Resources: Nanci Newton: Owner of The Healing ZONE Therapeutic Massage in western Massachusetts. www.thehealingzonemassage.com Pan-Mass Challenge https://www.pmc.org/volunteer/massage Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner. You can find her building websites and coaching

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Ep 508 – Decoding Misinformation in the Digital Age...

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2025/06/03

In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Darren and Kristin are joined by Allison Denney to discuss the challenges of navigating today’s digital landscape, where content is abundant but not always trustworthy. Allison explains why people are quick to trust influencers, how to develop discernment online, and the dangers of misleading pain-relief claims. Resources: Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at

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20:16

Ep 507 – The Freedom of Structure in Finances:...

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2025/05/23

Having your business finances together can have a positive impact on every part of your life. Allissa considers the balance of structure and freedom in money management. Resources: Megan Belanger, Owner of One River Massage Therapy in Massachusetts https://onerivermassage.com/ Under Your Skin cartoons https://onerivermassage.com/category/under-your-skin/ A Liberated Mind, Steven C. Hayes, PhD https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/549319/a-liberated-mind-by-steven-c-hayes-phd/

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Ep 506 – Genital Herpes: “I Have a Client Who . . .”...

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2025/05/20

A massage therapist wonders about the communicability of herpes from lesions on the sacrum: How might this infection spread from one person to another? “I Have a Client Who . . .” host Ruth Werner takes the opportunity to talk about herpes epidemiology, communicability, and asymptomatic viral shedding. You won’t want to miss this one! Resources: ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/courses Hygiene: Critical Updates for Massage Therapists Protect Your Practice: Public Health

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Ep 505 – Upregulating the Subscapularis: “The Rebel...

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2025/05/13

Massage therapists love the subscapularis and for good reason. It’s often intensely tense, overly sensitive, or simply too ticklish or tender to touch. But when we can access it, we can work wonders. In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison explores our techniques for working with the subscapularis and explains how upregulating this powerful muscle can change everything. Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com      Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com          Allison Denney

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20:44

Ep 504 – How to Pay Off Debt: “Business or Pressure”...

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2025/05/09

Debt is a drag, and eliminating debt can be a long process. Allissa walks us through the steps and shares some tips to pay off business and personal debt. Resources: Ruth Werner author of A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology in its 7th edition. Visit www.ruthwerner.com to grab a spot at the next "Stump the Pathology Teacher" online event, monthly on third Thursdays at 5 pm Pacific, 8 pm Eastern. Ep 489 – Managing an Irregular Income

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Ep 503 – Descending Modulation with Whitney Lowe

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2025/05/06

In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Whitney Lowe explores the powerful concept of descending modulation. Whitney breaks down the science behind this neurological process and how it applies directly to massage, manual therapy, and bodywork. Can therapeutic touch, trust, and context turn down the pain dial and support long-term healing? Tune in to find out. Resources: The Role of Descending Modulation in Manual Therapy and Its Analgesic Implications: A Narrative

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Ep 502 – Articulation: Turning Unconscious Skill into...

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2025/04/29

In this reflective episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson shares a powerful moment sparked by a client’s compliment and dives deep into the mystery of intuitive touch. Doug explores the concept of unconscious competence and why it's crucial to bring these instincts into conscious awareness, especially for those teaching or leading in the field. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in massage therapy in 1977. Seeing over 1,200

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Ep 501 – Staying Afloat in a Sinking World: “Business...

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2025/04/25

With political and economic uncertainty all around us, how can business owners prepare for the inevitable ups and downs? In this episode, Allissa shares practical strategies, and mindset shifts to help you stay grounded, adaptable, and ready. Resources: Chelle Doetsch Owner, New Yew in Michigan: www.newyewhealing.com How to Better Serve Your Neurodivergent Clients: https://www.abmp.com/massage-and-bodywork-magazine/how-better-serve-your-neurodivergent-clients Ep 495 – How Much Do I Need

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Ep 500 – Myasthenia Gravis: “I Have a Client Who . ....

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2025/04/22

A 70-year-old client fills in an online intake form, saying she has myasthenia gravis, hypertension, and hypothyroidism. She only takes Synthroid, and says her hypothyroidism and hypertension are well controlled. She has low back pain and muscle soreness. At first glance, this seems fairly simple. MG does not appear to be a major factor for her, because she is not controlling it with medication. But a closer look reveals some possible tangles between MG, hypothyroidism, and some cautions about

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