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Move Smartly: The Podcast

The Move Smartly podcast invites you into data-driven conversations about issues impacting residential real estate in Toronto, across Canada and beyond. Join editor and host Urmi Desai, analyst and broker John Pasalis and other experts as we unpack real estate through a variety of timely market updates, lively discussions and insightful interviews. Here to help you make more informed decisions, whether you are a home buyer, seller, owner or renter, and as a resident and voter — because real estate

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01:11:19

The Housing Market Has Stalled - What to Know for...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/06/13

Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Anastasia Spozito and Davin McMahon, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, John and his team discuss conditions in a stalled market - how sellers are reacting to changed

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52:17

Spring Real Estate Market Dead on Arrival? — Toronto...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/06/06

Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. Overall home sales and new home sales plunge to lows not seen since the 1990s. John and Steve what the federal government should - and shouldn’t do - for the struggling new home building sector. Plus - how our real estate brokers, agents and brokerage reacting to changing market consideration as sellers remain fixed on yesterday’s prices? Contact Us

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31:19

Should We Downsize by Selling our Condo and Renting...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/05/30

We are back with our popular consumer Q/A segment, ‘The Situation’! Urmi once again asks John to respond to the detailed questions you send in about the real estate decisions you are making as you navigate through the Toronto area housing market. In this week's episode: Is it time to sell our home, rent and invest in stocks now? Should we upsize our home or stay and invest in stocks instead? My parents bought we a condo but I don't like living in the area - what next? If you would like to send in

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30:04

How British Columbia Is Leading Canada’s Housing Reform

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/05/23

British Columbia is doing what other provinces have only talked about—taking bold, concrete steps to tackle the housing crisis. From legalizing fourplexes and sixplexes near transit, to cracking down on speculation and short-term rentals, Housing Minister Ravi Kahlon is helping lead one of the most ambitious housing reform agendas in the country. In this episode, we talk about BC’s approach to increasing supply, supporting non-market housing, and what other provinces—especially Ontario—can learn

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58:51

How Do You Sell Your Condo Right Now? — May Toronto...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/05/16

Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Davin McMahon and Gus Papaioannou, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, John and his team discuss conditions in the slower market - why buyers are sitting back, what

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46:54

Home Prices Finally Fall (a Bit) - What’s Next? —...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/05/09

Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. For the first time, homes in all categories drop - though pre-con and condos remain the most sluggish. And John and Steve discuss a minority federal government led by Liberal Party Leader Mark Carney, together with Alberta discontent and Trump’s continued tough tariff talk all means for the Canadian economy and housing. Contact Us Follow Steve on

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49:43

The Great Sell Off

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/05/02

In this episode, John Pasalis unpacks his new report, The Great Sell Off, which explores how Canada’s housing market has undergone a fundamental shift. He explains how homes have evolved from places to live into powerful financial assets, how this shift has driven a wedge between prices and incomes, and why today’s housing crisis can’t be solved with yesterday’s assumptions. Read John’s full report and watch video: www.movesmartly.com/thegreatselloff Contact Us John Pasalis, President and

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52:13

Introducing ‘The Great Sell Off’: Interview with John...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/05/02

Today, Urmi interviews co-host John about his new report and video, The Great Sell Off: How Our Homes Became Someone Else’s Business, which explains just how we have arrived at our current Canadian housing affordability crisis and what we can do to emerge from it. Read John’s full report and watch video: www.movesmartly.com/thegreatselloff Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto | Email: askjohn@movesmartly.com | X-Twitter: @JohnPasalis Urmi Desai, Editor, Move

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33:24

Am I Wrong to Be Buying a Home Right Now? — ‘The...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/04/25

This week, it’s time for our monthly consumer Q&A segment which we call the ‘The Situation.’ In this segment, I ask my co-host and colleague, John Pasalis, President and Broker at Realosophy Realty, in Toronto, to respond to the questions you are asking about all your buying, selling and renting moves across the Toronto area real estate market. You can send your questions about your own real estate moves to be addressed in future episodes to askjohn@movesmartly.com Sign up for John's 30 Minute Info

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01:14:02

Assessing Housing Plans as Canada Votes - Move...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/04/18

As Canadians head to the polls later this month, Move Smartly co-hosts Urmi and John assess the Liberal, Conservative and NDP housing plans. Featuring John’s interview with campaigning Liberal Housing Minister, Nate Eskine-Smith. Follow us and send us your questions and feedback via Twitter @MoveSmartly, Instagram @move.smartly, or email: editor@movesmartly.com Show Notes: Liberal Party - March 2025 -Building Canada Strong: https://liberal.ca/housing-plan/ Conservative Party - March 2025 - Building

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01:03:05

Should I Be Buying or Selling a Home Right Now? —...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/04/11

Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Anastasia Spozito and Davin McMahon, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, what is the best way to buy or sell a home right now given the uncertainty about the Canadian

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58:33

Analyzing Carney and Poilievre on Housing as Canada...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/04/04

It’s the Federal Election edition this month! Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver. And John and Steve sound off on what the two leading candidates to become Canada’s PM at the end of the month, Liberal Party leader and current PM, Mark Carney, and Progressive Conservative Party leader and Leader of the Opposition, Pierre Poilievre have to say on housing GST rebates, capital gains and more

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31:21

How a Small Floor Repair Turned into a 100K...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/03/28

This week, it’s time for our monthly consumer Q&A segment which we call the ‘The Situation.’ In this segment, I ask my co-host and colleague, John Pasalis, President and Broker at Realosophy Realty, in Toronto, to respond to the questions you are asking about all your buying, selling and renting moves across the Toronto area real estate market. You can send your questions about your own eal estate move to be addressed in future episodes to askjohn@movesmartly.com or leave comments on

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01:01:13

Tariffs Slam Into Canada’s Economy - And Its Housing...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/03/21

Urmi and John sit down with Ben Rabidoux, a leading housing analyst at Edge Realty Analytics. His firm provides in-depth data and insights on Canada’s housing market, with a focus on national trends and key metro areas like Vancouver and Toronto. It’s no surprise that many real estate professionals consider his monthly research reports essential reading. With interest rates falling, inflation on the rise, and tariffs hitting Canada’s economy, the housing market is facing a whirlwind of change. How

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01:11:21

Home Sales Hit New Low, Condo Crash?, Trump Tariff...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/03/14

Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Gus Papaioannou and Peter Karlos, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! This week, detached homes hit a new low, rents fall and when are condo prices finally going to fall? And as

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45:11

Trump Tariff Chaos Hits Slam into Slow Canadian Real...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/03/07

It’s Day One of the latest Canada-US Trade Tariff War and this one is a doozey! Move Smartly Editor and Host, Urmi, once again speaks to John and Steve on what is going on in the data and on the ground in Toronto and Vancouver and how are Canadian real estate consumers reacting to the introduction of 25% blanket tariffs on our trade with the US courtesy of President Donald Trump? Will banks continue to prop up the pre-construction or are things changing? And will low interest rates and the first

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33:06

Is It the Right Time to Upsize to a Larger Condo? +...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/02/28

Today’s episode is our monthly ‘The Situation’ consumer Q/A segment - Urmi once again asks John to respond to the detailed questions you send in about the real estate decisions you are making as you navigate through the Toronto area housing market. Today, we hear from a family with a primary residence with a large mortgage in the wrong area, should they rent or try to sell up first? Then, when is it time to sell a condo investment in an old building to avoid more expenses and a city condo owner

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53:47

Are the Suburbs More Susceptible in Slowdown? + More...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/02/14

Each month, show co-host John Pasalis presents his latest data and top stories on Toronto area real estate in conversation with fellow Realosophy agents, Gus Papaioannou and Davin McMahon, and our Move Smartly mortgage expert, David Larock - and you, our viewers, who join the conversation in our live chat hosted by Move Smartly Editor Urmi Desai to make this is one of our liveliest segments! Set-up a meeting with John Pasalis and his agents at Realosophy to discuss your own real estate questions

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51:26

Trump Volatility + Rents Fall, Will Home Prices Be...

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/02/07

It’s roundtable time with John Pasalis in Toronto and Steve Saretsky in Vancouver! This month, John and Steve discuss how hopeful views at the start of the year have weathered. And after a rollercoaster of the ride that is the Trump presidency over the last two weeks, with Canada still reeling from a - temporary - reprieve from an unprecedented 25% tariff smackdown from the US, can another Bank of Canada cut to bring its policy rate to 3% do anything to calm skittish home buyers? Today’s Show Links:

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39:30

The Politics of Housing

Move Smartly: The Podcast ·

2025/01/31

Our episode today is one of our “Move Smartly Ideas” segment, in which my colleague and co-host, John Pasalis and I take a deeper dive into housing economic and policy issues. In our conversation today, we cover what John thinks experts get wrong about the very nature of housing as a good — which leads to poor outcomes for everyday consumers — and why housing is not just about the numbers - it’s political. Contact Us John Pasalis, President and Broker, Realosophy Realty, Toronto |

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