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Mind Over Murder

William F. Thomas and Kristin M. Dilley

Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim"s advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive who is also the brother of a murder victim, now living in Connecticut. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. They

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45:03

NEW: Confession Killers w Katherine Ramsland

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2025/07/21

Criminal Psychologist Katherine Ramsland joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss confession killers, those criminals who confess to murders and other serious crimes that they did not commit. Why do serial killers like Henry Lee Lucas, Ottis Toole and Samuel Little confess to scores of additional murders? Time: The Story of Henry Lee Lucas, the Notorious Subject of Netflix’s The Confession

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45:20

BONUS: Chowchilla Mass Kidnapping Case

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2025/07/17

"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California. The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in United States history, shocked the nation in 1976. How did three rich kids plan and execute this heinous crime? Why did their plans fall apart so quickly? What impact did the kidnapping have on the 26 survivors? Why were the three kidnappers ultimately paroled? Thos bonus episode

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40:32

NEW: New Bedford Serial Killings w Maureen Boyle

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2025/07/14

Author and journalist Maureen Boyle joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her book "Shallow Graves: The Hunt for the New Bedford Highway Serial Killer." The book tells the harrowing story of the still unsolved murder of 9 women who were left for dead off highways near New Bedford, Massachusetts, together with two others who went missing and have never been found. Shallow Graves: The Hunt for the New Bedford Highway Serial

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43:21

NEW: Bryan Kohberger Pleads Guilty to Idaho 4 Murder...

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2025/07/12

"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the bombshell news that suspect Bryan Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty to murdering 4 college students, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen at their group house in Moscow, Idaho in November 2022. Kohberger was facing the death penalty in Idaho, but will now serve four consecutive life sentences with no possiblity of parole for the brutal killings. This part 2 of 2 parts on the Kohberger guilty

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42:20

NEW: Bryan Kohberger Pleads Guilty to Idaho 4 Murder...

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2025/07/07

"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the bombshell news that suspect Bryan Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty to murdering 4 college students, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen at their group house in Moscow, Idaho in November 2022. Kohberger was facing the dealth penalty in Idaho, but will now serve four consecutive life sentences with no possiblity of parole for the brutal killings.CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join

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43:47

BONUS: Blood in the Water w Casey Sherman

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2025/07/03

New York Times bestselling author Casey Sherman joins Mind Over Murder hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new true crime book, "Blood in the Water: The Untold Story of a Family Tragedy." The book tells the amazing true story of Nathan Carman, who was accused of both killing his mother on a family fishing trip in the North Atlantic, as well as being suspected of shooting his multimillionaire grandfather to death, all in pursuit of wealth and power. This bonus episode of "Mind Over

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41:00

NEW: Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of...

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2025/06/30

Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Caroline Fraser joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers." The work explores the provocative premise that environmental toxins may have led men living in the Pacific Northwest to become serial killers. Could a poisonous mix of lead, copper and arsenic fumes spewing out of a massive industrial smelting plant in Tacoma, Washington have impacted those living in

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40:06

BONUS: Silent Witness: Ashley Spence and DNA Justice...

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2025/06/28

Author and advocate Ashley Spence joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "Silent Witness: How DNA Uncovered the Truth and Empowered My Healing." Ashley, a sexual assault survivor herself, founded the DNA Justice Project to advocate how forensic DNA can change lives, transform justice and prevent crimes before they happen. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder"originally ran on March 3, 2025.CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us

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46:18

NEW: Junk Science and the American Justice System

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2025/06/23

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Chris Fabricant of the Innocence Project and his new edition of his book, "Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice System." Chris describes the shocking story of how discredited scientific forensics have been used in many wrongful convictions across the United States.CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the code MINDOVERMURDER to

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49:29

BONUS: The Sinners All Bow with Kate Winkler Dawson

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2025/06/19

Author and podcaster Kate Winkler Dawson joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book, "The Sinners All Bow: Two Authors, One Murder and the Real Hester Prynne." We also touch on "Buried Bones," her historical true crime podcast with investigator Paul Holes. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on February 24, 2025.The Sinners All Bow: Two Authors, One Murder and the Real Hester

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37:42

NEW: The D B Cooper Vortex (Part 4)

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2025/06/16

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper with Darren Schaefer, the host of "The Cooper Vortex" podcast. Dan "DB" Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This is Part 4 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case.CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us

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42:30

BONUS: L.A. Coroner: Thomas Noguchi and Death in...

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2025/06/13

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they meet award winning author and historian Anne Soon Choi to discuss her new book "L.A. Coroner: Thomas Noguchi and Death in Hollywood," which tells the story of one of America's most prominent medical examiners. Dr. Noguchi's outstanding and sometimes controversial work earned him the nickname "Coroner to the Stars." This bonus episode of "mind Over Murder" originally ran on February 17, 2025.L.A. Coroner: Thomas Noguchi and

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41:54

NEW: The D B Cooper Vortex (Part 3)

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2025/06/09

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper with Darren Schaefer, the host of "The Cooper Vortex" podcast. Dan "DB" Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This is Part 3 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case.CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us

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50:01

BONUS: Shaken Baby Syndrome: Controversial Diagnosis...

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2025/06/06

Join "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we discuss the New York Times Magazine article by Pamela Colloff: "He Dialed 911 to Save His Baby. Then His Children Were Taken Away. The controversial medical diagnosis of shaken baby syndrome can send parents to jail. What if the symptoms are caused by something else?" This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on January 20,

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29:33

NEW: Skyjacked with D B Cooper (Part 2)

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2025/06/02

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This is Part 2 of 3 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case.CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM listener hangouts, and a lot of fun! Use the

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53:14

BONUS: McMillions: The Most Supersized Fraud in Fast...

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2025/05/29

James Lee Hernandez and Brian Lazarte, writer/producers of "McMillions: The Absolutely True Story of How and Unlikely Pair of FBI Agents Brought Down the Most Supersized Fraud in Fast Food History" join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley for a great discussion of their true crime series, book and podcasts. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on December 23, 2024.CrimeCon: We’re going to CrimeCon again, folks! Join us in Denver for new merch, some MOM

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47:00

NEW: Skyjacked with D B Cooper (Part 1)

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2025/05/26

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This is Part 1 of 2 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case.October 2023 Popular Mechanics

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45:47

BONUS: Unsolved Virginia: The Millenial Viewpoint

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2025/05/22

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Robert Grey, longtime listener to the podcast who attended both Virginia Tech and William and Mary. We review his impressions of the August 2009 murders of Virginia Tech students Heidi Childs and David Metzler, as well as the Colonial Parkway Murders, and their impact on the college community. Can advanced DNA techniques solve the tragic case of two undergrads found shot to death in a place called Caldwell Fields? How has the

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36:03

NEW: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield (Part 2)

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2025/05/19

Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified? Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved? Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial Parkway Murders? This is Part 2 of 2 parts on the Zodiac with

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35:09

BONUS: Help Save the Next Girl (Part 2)

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2025/05/15

Dan Harrington, Gil Harrington and Jane Lillian Vance, founders of "Help Save the Next Girl," join us to discuss the good work of their organization, founded after the brutal murder of Dan and Gil's 20 year old daughter Morgan Harrington in October 2009. We talk about the book that Gil and Jane co-wrote, "Morgan Harrington Murdered Dead and for Good: A Mother's Quest to Find a Serial Killer and Healing," as well as missing persons cases in Virginia, dealing with profound grief, and healing through

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