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Mind Over Murder

William F. Thomas and Kristin M. Dilley

Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim"s advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive who is also the brother of a murder victim, now living in Connecticut. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. They

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39:25

NEW: Criminal Minds: Real FBI Stories (Part 2)

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2025/11/10

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are they joined by former FBI agents Bobby Chacon, Jim Clemente and James "Fitz" Fitzgerald. All three were consultants, writers and/or producers on the hit show "Criminal Minds," now celebrating its 20th anniversary and its spin-offs, "Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders," "Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior," and "Criminal Minds: Evolution." The series often incorporates real FBI stories from the careers of the subject matter experts. This

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40:32

BONUS: New Bedford Serial Killings w Maureen Boyle

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2025/11/08

Author and journalist Maureen Boyle joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her book "Shallow Graves: The Hunt for the New Bedford Highway Serial Killer." The book tells the harrowing story of the still unsolved murder of 9 women who were left for dead off highways near New Bedford, Massachusetts, together with two others who went missing and have never been found. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on July 14, 2025.Shallow Graves: The Hunt

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39:17

NEW: Criminal Minds TV Series at 20 (Part 1)

Mind Over Murder ·

2025/11/03

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are they joined by former FBI agents Bobby Chacon, Jim Clemente and James "Fitz" Fitzgerald. All three were consultants, writers and/or producers on the hit show "Criminal Minds," now celebrating its 20th anniversary and its spin-offs, "Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders," "Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior," and "Criminal Minds: Evolution."Criminal Minds Fan Wiki: https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Criminal_Minds_WikiBobby Chacon:

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35:59

BONUS: Celebrate Halloween with "The Monkey's Paw"

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2025/10/30

Hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas of the "Mind Over Murder" podcast celebrate Halloween with a reading of "The Monkey's Paw," the horror classic by British author W.W. Jacobs, the writer who taught us all to be careful what we wish for. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on October 20, 2022.The Monkey's Paw by William Wymark JacobsDifferent versions are available.https://www.kyrene.org/cms/lib/AZ01001083/Centricity/Domain/2259/The%20Monkeys%20Paw%20-%20text.pdfSound effects

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41:10

NEW: The People Vs. The Golden State Killer

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2025/10/27

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Sacramento County DA Thien Ho to discuss his powerful new book, "The People Vs. The Golden State Killer," which tells the behind the scene story of the successful prosecution of Joseph D'Angelo. The book will be released on November 11, 2025.Thien Ho Website: https://www.thienho.org/American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock

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46:34

BONUS: Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of...

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2025/10/24

Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Caroline Fraser joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers." The work explores the provocative premise that environmental toxins may have led men living in the Pacific Northwest to become serial killers. Could a poisonous mix of lead, copper and arsenic fumes spewing out of a massive industrial smelting plant in Tacoma, Washington have impacted those living in

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43:38

NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders: Ask Us Anything (Part 3)

Mind Over Murder ·

2025/10/20

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley in a new "Ask Us Anything" episode. We discuss the Colonial Parkway Murders, Bill's older brother Richard's recent memorial service, and the Thomas family's discovery via DNA search of a long lost sister and the family secret that kept her hidden for 50 years. This is Part 3 of our brand new "Ask Us Anything" series on the Colonial Parkway Murders.American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway

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46:18

BONUS: Junk Science and the American Justice System

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2025/10/16

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Chris Fabricant of the Innocence Project to discuss his new edition of his book, "Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice System." Chris describes the shocking story of how discredited scientific forensics have been used in thousands of wrongful convictions across the United States. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on June 23, 2025.Goodreads: Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice

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51:24

NEW: Human Trafficking with Jerome Elam

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2025/10/13

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they interview Jerome Elam, expert on human trafficking and chairman of the Trafficking in America Task Force. Learn how kids, young people and adults are trafficked and how they are drawn into this sordid multimillion dollar business where humans are traded for sex, drugs, money, and even human organs.Trafficking in America Task Force:https://traffickinginamericataskforce.org/National Human Trafficking Hotline:

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37:42

BONUS: The D B Cooper Vortex (Part 4)

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2025/10/09

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper with Darren Schaefer, the host of "The Cooper Vortex" podcast. Dan "DB" Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This bonus episode is Part 4 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case, and originally ran on June 16, 2025.The

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40:23

NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders: Ask Us Anything (Part 2)

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2025/10/06

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley in a new "Ask Us Anything" episode focused on the Colonial Parkway Murders. We answer questions, give a status report on the Colonial Parkway Murders case-- still unsolved after nearly 39 years--, highlight more stalling from the FBI, new potential accomplices to suspect Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. , and much more. This is Part 2 of our brand new "Ask Us Anything" series on the Colonial Parkway Murders.American Detective TV series:

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41:54

BONUS: The D B Cooper Vortex (Part 3)

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2025/10/02

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper with Darren Schaefer, the host of "The Cooper Vortex" podcast. Dan "DB" Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This bonus episode is Part 3 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case, and originally ran on June 9, 2025.The

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43:45

NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders: Ask Us Anything (Part 1)

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2025/09/29

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley in a brand new "Ask Us Anything" episode focused on the Colonial Parkway Murders. We answer questions, give a status report on the Colonial Parkway Murders case-- still unsolved after nearly 39 years--, highlight more stalling from the FBI, new potential accomplices to suspect Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. , and much more.American Detective Tv series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder

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29:33

BONUS: Skyjacked w DB Cooper (Part 2)

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2025/09/25

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This bonus episode is Part 2 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case and originally ran in May/June 2025.October 2023 Popular Mechanics

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47:14

NEW: Bone Valley with Author Gilbert King

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2025/09/22

Join Pulitzer Prize willing author Gilbert King as he sits down with "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book and podcast "Bone Valley." The book and podcast tells a true story of injustice and redemption in the heart of Florida-- in 1988, Leo Schofield was arrested and charged with the murder of his wife, Michelle-- a murder he did not commit. Leo served more than 30 years, and was ulimately released on parole, although he has yet to be exonerated

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47:00

BONUS: Skyjacked w DB Cooper (Part 1)

Mind Over Murder ·

2025/09/19

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mysterious case of D B Cooper, who successfully hijacked a Northwest Airlines passenger jet and parachuted into the dense forest of the Pacific Northwest. He was never caught, although a small amount of the $200,000 ransom was later recovered. This is Part 1 of 4 parts on the Dan "DB" Cooper case.October 2023 Popular Mechanics

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45:30

NEW: CrimeCon Denver 2025 Report

Mind Over Murder ·

2025/09/15

Join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent CrimeCon 2025 held a week ago in Denver-- nearly 7,000 fans gathered for a fun, informative and inspiring weekend covering all things true crime. We get into the CrimeCon CLUE Awards, great interactions with fans, podcasters and the denizens of Creator's Row, CrimeCon likes and dislikes (way more likes than dislikes!), and preview CrimeCon 2026, to be held May 29-31, 2026 in Las Vegas.Colorado Public Radio:

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36:03

BONUS: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield...

Mind Over Murder ·

2025/09/12

Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified? Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved? Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial Parkway Murders? This bonus episode is is Part 2 of 2 parts on the

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48:12

NEW: FBI Profiler James Fitzgerald's New Book

Mind Over Murder ·

2025/09/08

Legendary FBI profiler James R. Fitzgerald joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his latest book, A Journey to the Center of the Mind, which covers his work on many high profile FBI cases including the Unabomb case, 9/11, the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta, the JonBenet Ramsey case, his work on the hit TV series Criminal Minds and much more.A Journey to the Center of the Mind - Book IV: The (Last Ten) FBI Years, and the "Retirement" Years by James R

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42:39

BONUS: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield...

Mind Over Murder ·

2025/09/04

Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified? Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved? Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial Parkway Murders? This bonus episode is is Part 1 of 2 parts on the

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