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Radical Sacred

Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke

Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core

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45:09

Honest Endings, Gilead, and Easter Wrestling with...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/06/04

This week we are joined by Rev. Rebecca Anderson and Rev. Vince Amlin of Bethany United Church of Christ in Chicago. We chat about partnership, creating healing spaces, and learning to move with the seasons of life and the ebbs and flows of our invitations from Spirit. Vince and Rebecca share about their journey with and honest ending of their beloved, queer, storytelling, bar-meeting church, Gilead. Every pilgrimage has a beginning and an end. What might we learn from ending things intentionally

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53:06

The Intersection of Science and Spirituality Through...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/05/28

We are thrilled to chat with Frank and Mary Frost who are partners in life and film making! Today we talk about their fabulous, Emmy nominated, documentary about French scientist and Jesuit Priest, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. Teilhard was a feminist, a visionary thinker, a paleontologist, and a man way before his time. When met with new information that challenged his religious ideals, he didn’t shrink, but he expanded to meet the moment. What might we learn from his ecstatic, open hearted way of

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53:03

Chelan Harkin and the Ecstatic Path

Radical Sacred ·

2025/05/21

Chelan Harkin joins us today on this meandering and moving conversation about the path of ecstatic movement. When we dial in to our truest selves, what mystical downloads from the universe might we receive? When we follow desire, where might our destination be? And how can a seemingly small act, like learning to trust the gentle nudges of the universe, lead us back to us? Spending time with Chelan is like diving into the deep waters she’s named after, it’s inviting and cool and totally refreshing

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53:29

Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms is a Social Alchemist and...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/05/14

Today we go on a journey back to our truest selves with Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms. They talk to us about finding uncoerced worship amongst the redwood trees, the beauty in connecting with other folks who invite us into our own aliveness, and all the ways we are being asked to remember that we ARE nature. What if we started actually emulating Jesus? What beauty and healing could come from us wandering around in wild spaces with our weird friends? Tamice shares about finding a deep well of courage from

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59:40

Bill Holston Believes in Safe Housing for All

Radical Sacred ·

2025/05/07

Bill Holston, CEO of Dallas Eviction Advocacy Center, joins us today on the pod! We hear from Bill about eviction advocacy, the importance of all people having access to representation and safe housing, as well as how he finds connection and rest in nature during these trying times. What can we learn when we reflect on the slow movement of the trout lily? Bill reminds us that oftentimes advocacy work begins with noticing what’s happening in our towns and to our neighbors. What have you noticed

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42:23

Rev. Tim Clifford Invites Us to Reengage Joy

Radical Sacred ·

2025/04/30

This week we chat with Rev. Tim Clifford about his journey out of cynicism and how he’s learning to reengage with joy. Tim’s substack, Theology of a Recovering Cynic, follows his movement back towards a truer version of himself through endurance sports, theology, TTRPG’s, imagination, and more. In these dark times it can be tempting to give into cynicism and hopelessness. Rev. Tim reminds us that we can walk a different path, one that’s intentional and filled with curiosity and connection. Cool

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59:36

Pilgrimage with Pegasus

Radical Sacred ·

2025/04/23

This week’s episode is a creative and soulful collab with Stephanie Adelina and Satchel Victory of Pegasus Tattoo and Wellness! While Stephanie gives Jenny a gorgeous strawberry tattoo we chat about trauma informed care, creating safe spaces for everyone, therapy and the coming together of all of the above. Steph and Satchel share with us about being partners in life and in business and all the ways care, connection, and community can bring us together. What happens when tattooing and wellness are

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35:33

BONUS - Easter Vigil

Radical Sacred ·

2025/04/19

On this bonus episode we talk about vigil and the things that call to the depths of our hearts. What can’t you turn away from? What is currently calling you to deep attention and care? We chat about swans, the weird wildness of the Easter Vigil, following our joy and our heartbreak, and everything in between. May you turn your loving gaze to the places and spaces that invite you into vigil. And may your loving gaze be the spark that ignites the flame of your actions. Cool stuff we mention in this

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61:38

Church of the Wild Field Guide Conversation with...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/04/16

We chat with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels about their fabulous new offering: Field Guide to the Church of the Wild. Victoria and Valerie are sisters who create uniquely wild offerings through Seminary of the Wild Earth, eco spiritual direction training and more. In this honest and deeply rooted conversation we learn how Victoria and Valerie are creating a mycelial hub for the emerging wild spirituality movement. When we listen to the wild call of our hearts what might we discover? How can

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44:06

Hunter Mobley on the Enneagram and Contemplation: The...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/04/09

This week we are joined by Hunter Mobley, Enneagram teacher, speaker, and author of the fabulous new book Letting Go, Finding You. We dive deep with Hunter into contemplation and the Enneagram. If “contemplation is a long loving look”, how might Enneagram wisdom and contemplating flow together? Hunter invites us into a gentler, more hope filled way of viewing the Enneagram and ourselves. Letting Go, Finding You by: Hunter Mobley Hunter’s Website 40 Days of Being a 2 by: Hunter Mobley Life in the

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60:05

John Philip Newell on St. Brigid and Finding the...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/04/02

We are honored and delighted to have this gorgeous conversation with the one and only John Phillip Newell. John Phillip chats with us about St. Brigid, having rituals in these unsettling times, connection to the earth, and everything in between. As we stand in the thresholds of life, how might we draw upon the courage and wisdom of St. Brigid? John Phillip invites us to delight in where we are and to find the addresses of our own hearts, wherever they may dwell.Cool stuff we mention this episode (or

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Journey to Building an Inclusive Future with Mary Jo...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/03/26

Humbled by this lovely conversation with the Executive Director of OutCenter, Mary Jo Schnell. Mary Jo talks to us about leading with empathy and listening deeply to all people, even those we fundamentally disagree with. We can’t connect with others in meaningful ways if we don’t “stay at the table.” Mary Jo walks us through a vision of building an inclusive future rooted in community, equality for all, and intersectionality. May we each be the vision bearers and light bringers for such a beautiful

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49:04

Rev. Jeremy Steele and the Pilgrimage of a Skeptic

Radical Sacred ·

2025/03/19

Rev. Jeremy Steele takes us on the journey of a skeptic building an open hearted online community rooted in deep questions and care. Jeremy’s new book “How not to suck as a Christian” is an honest reflection of his own faith pilgrimage. Through his Skeptic Pastor account on Tik-Tok Jeremy has found that beneath the most frequently asked questions he gets online are people looking for connection and for authenticity, no matter their background. What big questions do you have that you’ve been made to

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54:20

Melissa Fritchle’s Journey into Conscious Sex

Radical Sacred ·

2025/03/12

“Yearning is good….it’s a gift.” -Melissa Fritchle Melissa Fritchle is a psychotherapist, eco spirituality guide, author of the Conscious Sexual Self Workbook, a meditation and mindfulness teacher, and that’s just scratching the surface! In this honest conversation we talk about following our own yearning, conscious sex as a way of living more open heartedly, and all the ways our lives begin to open up when we’re honest about who we are and what we want. How can having more conscious sex shape not

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55:05

Beyond Data into Depth with Andrew Wermelskirchen

Radical Sacred ·

2025/03/05

We love an interview with someone we both love dearly who also happens to run a gorgeous newsletter! Today we interview Andrew Wermelskirchen about his substack offering for educators and religious leaders: Observations of a Nobody. What can happen when we connect with others via curiosity through open ended, open hearted questions? We chat with one of our favorite somebody’s about creative offerings, open hearted living, and leading with vulnerability. Do you have something on your heart and mind

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47:05

Feeling Your Way Through Grief with Missy Buchanan

Radical Sacred ·

2025/02/26

This week we journey with author and speaker Missy Buchanan into an honest exploration into grief. What happens when our life is upended by grief? Missy chats with us about the sudden loss of her husband Barry, her realization that a lot of materials around grief are lacking in authenticity and vulnerability, and her determination to “feel her way through grief” in a way that felt true to her. When we grieve honestly and invite others to do the same, lives are changed and doors are opened. Though

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56:20

Pilgrimage for Nerds with Rev. Nathan Webb

Radical Sacred ·

2025/02/19

At the heart of Rev. Nathan Webb’s creative, online community is storytelling, loving connection, and curiosity. We journey with Nathan as he talks to us about the beauty and complexities of pastoring and world building in digital spaces. We delve into pilgrimage through gaming and our minds are blown by the possibilities. What can happen when a church decides to be a community of misfits doing their best to build one another up? Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): Checkpoint

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49:55

Walking Brigid's Way with Dr. Karen Ward

Radical Sacred ·

2025/02/12

Dr. Karen Ward joins us today as we chat about Ireland’s Saint Brigid who is just as rooted in celtic folklore as she is steeped in Catholic tradition. Who was Brigid really? Karen walks us through the journey of a woman who was both the saint of poems, midwifery, Ale and blacksmithing and who was also a fire goddess. The mythology of Brigid is vast and invitational and in these troubled times we are all invited to delve into the story of a woman who became a symbol for new life springing forth in

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46:10

Where We’re From and What We’re Rooted In

Radical Sacred ·

2025/02/05

We are in the darkness of the womb right now, in the midwinter. What are we going to birth forth? This week we talk about where we’re from and where we’re currently taking root in these uncertain times. In seasons of upheaval it helps to remember who our safe spaces are, what weird stuff the soft animal of our body loves, and how we can integrate all we’ve been with who we are and what is ours to do right now. If, like us, you find yourself wandering through the wilderness of the current moment,

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62:19

The Allurement of Nature: A Spiritual Journey with...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/01/29

“We have lost relational language for the natural world and lost part of our own souls along with it.” - Victoria Loorz, author of Church of the Wild Wild Church Pastor, Eco Spiritual Director, author and founder of Center for Wild Spirituality Victoria Loorz wants us to reimagine our own wildness and our interconnectedness to the earth. Victoria’s invitation to reciprocity, relational language, and choosing to belong wherever you are is a breath of fresh mountain air in these tense times. In the

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