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Radical Sacred

Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke

Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core

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67:30

Moving in the World with the Intention to Love with...

Radical Sacred ·

2026/03/25

Today we are joined by David Dault as we dive into his new book The Accessorized Bible. David is an author, professor at Loyola University, award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, podcaster and radio host. We chat about his book which includes beautiful passages on James Baldwin, loving with intention, bringing our own moral lens to the bible, and more! This is a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation. We are grateful for David and his invitation to look more in depth: at our own

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53:23

Jim Keat on the Intimacy of Online Connections

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2026/03/18

Rev. Jim Keat of The Riverside Church joins us this week to talk about creating intimate spaces and reciprocal relationships online. Jim is a runner, digital creator and pastor who views the internet as a vast opportunity for connection, care, and transformation. This conversation is a lovely reminder of the power of community on site or online. Show Notes:Riverside Churchjimkeat.comThe Convergence Network @revjimrunsBible in a MinuteJim’s SubstackImagination by Assata Shakur Key TopicsEmbodiment in

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57:56

Christine Tracy on Just Trust Life: A Journey with...

Radical Sacred ·

2026/03/11

We had the loveliest of conversations with writer, journalist, and rhetorician, Christine Tracy on her new book Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin. Her book and our conversation are about Teilhard, but are both also deeply rooted in how he became a guide and a north star for Christine as she goes on a transcendent journey to find her truest self. What can we learn by letting go of fear and shame and learning to just trust life? We hope Teilhard and Christine inspire you to look

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69:35

The Quest for Shalom: A Conversation with Lisa Sharon...

Radical Sacred ·

2026/03/04

We are thrilled to speak with Lisa Sharon Harper, founder of Freedom Road, podcaster, public theologian, author, including the books Fortune: How Race Broke My Family And The World—And How To Repair It All, and The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can be Made Right. In this wide ranging conversation Lisa shares with us her wisdom and her witness as we talk about the crises we face in our country and in the church and the hopes that can be found in knowing our history, love, community, and

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67:58

Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer on the Reciprocity of Poetry

Radical Sacred ·

2026/02/25

This week we are joined by poet Rosemary Wahtola Trommer as she shares her journey of writing poetry daily, the role of nature in her work, and how grief has shaped her understanding of beauty and vulnerability. We discuss the integration of personal loss with the creative process, the importance of collaboration, and the power of poetry to express the inexpressible. Rosemary emphasizes the significance of being present in the moment and how poetry serves as a bridge to connect with our emotions and

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62:21

Liza Rankow on Soul Medicine for a Fractured World

Radical Sacred ·

2026/02/18

We had a truly life giving conversation with Dr. Liza Rankow on her book Soul Medicine for a Fractured World: Healing, Justice, and the Path of Wholeness! Liza’s book is a gorgeous read and speaks on the importance of deep soul healing, both/and thinking, community care,the gifts that can come from our struggles, awe, and having our hearts broken open. We loved this chat and will be thinking about it for a long time to come! Show Notes:Soul Medicine for a Fractured World: Healing, Justice, and the

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73:36

David Hayward is the Naked Pastor

Radical Sacred ·

2026/02/11

We were so fortunate to talk to David Hayward, known for his work under the moniker the Naked Pastor, in this spacious and honest episode about art, deconstruction, feminine wisdom, nature, and more. David shares with us his spiritual journey that is continually unfolding. His gentle storytelling invited us to look deeply at our spirituality, to not be afraid to live the questions when they come up, and to begin to move towards whatever is stirring within our hearts. There is no wrong way to become

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54:47

Wes Ellis and Abiding in Amen

Radical Sacred ·

2026/02/04

We had a lovely time chatting with Wes Ellis about his book Abiding in Amen: Prayer for a Secular Age! Wes is a pastor, professor, and author who decided to look at prayer through a gentle, nonjudgmental, and playful lens. We chat about abiding in prayer, silence, what resonates deeply within us, and approaching prayer in a hopeful, open hearted way. We hope that this episode gives you the space you need to check out prayer in new and innovative ways! May your prayers flow through you freely, may

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80:22

Finding Awe Through Creative Flow with the Seryn

Radical Sacred ·

2026/01/28

We had the loveliest of chats with Seryn founding members Nathan James Allen and Trenton Wheeler! We talk creativity, flow, letting our questions guide us, their beginnings as a band in Denton, TX, their pause from creating music together, the pathway back to one another, and their newest songs. Join us for this winding, interesting, music and hope filled conversation. Fun fact: our new intro and outro music is a gorgeous tune called Beach Song by Seryn. This song means a lot to us and we hope that

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Grace Ji-Sun Kim on Earthbound: God at the...

Radical Sacred ·

2026/01/21

Rev. Dr. Grace Ji-Sun Kim joins us today to talk about her book Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice. In Earthbound, Grace instills a sense of urgency around taking care of our earth and each other. She calls us to be the image of God and to approach the holy work of reciprocity in a spirit of love, creativity, aliveness, forgiveness, and beauty. Grace’s work empowers, invites, and ignites us into action as we work together to build a future that is hopeful for all beings. We

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50:04

Becoming Kin with Patty Krawec

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2026/01/14

We loved getting the opportunity to speak with Patty Krawec, author of Becoming Kin and Bad Indians Book Club, speaker, activist, and co-founder of the Nii'kinaaganaa Foundation. Patty talks to us about the importance of remembering our history honestly so that we can reimagine a future that is reciprocal for all people and for the land. Patty’s work is invitational and reminds us that we are all relatives. Show Notes:Patty KrawecBecoming Kinpayyourrent.caTaté Walker poem - Land BackOnce the World

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56:35

How to Love a Forest with Ethan Tapper

Radical Sacred ·

2026/01/07

How we Love a Forest is how we Love Everything with Ethan Tapper. Join us for this transformative and hopeful chat with forrester, author of How We Love a Forest, and digital storyteller Ethan Tapper! Ethan walks us through what it looks like to love and give your life over to whatever is calling to you from the depths of your heart. We visit about his 175 acres called Bear Island and the restorative and sometimes heartbreaking work it takes to love well. Ethan’s knowledge of trees, foxes, birds

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57:13

A Year in Reflection and Cheers to a New Year

Radical Sacred ·

2025/12/31

Cheers to a New Year from Radical Sacred! This year has been a bit of a shit sandwich for us so if you’re feeling less than holly jolly this one's for you. We chat about where we are and our hopes for 2026. We choose a few words that will be our guiding light for the year to come and remember our favorite episodes from this season. Thanks for being on this journey with us! “May the nourishment of the earth be yours,may the clarity of light be yours,may the fluency of the ocean be yours, may the

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57:15

Reciprocal Rhythms: Poetry and the Dance of Chaos...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/12/24

On this special Christmas Eve episode we get to chat with poet, theologian, and host of Poetry Unbound Pádraig Ó Tuama! Pádraig talks with us about reciprocity in all its forms, chaos, cooperation and conflict resolution, doing what is yours to do and more! We are so thankful for Pádraig, his work and his wise words, for all of you listening, and for the hope we find in poetry, art, music, nature, and creation in these uncertain times. May your Christmas be filled with love and joy and may you

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61:52

Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson on Reciprocity and Sex

Radical Sacred ·

2025/12/17

Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson join us today to talk about reciprocity in intimate relationships in this helpful and hopeful episode! Julia and Jeremiah are married therapists whose mission is to support relationships in reclaiming sexuality following adverse religious experiences. Their gentle approach invites us all into new ways of being and knowing, ourselves and others. We loved their kind and thoughtful approach to sex, intimacy, and learning how to listen to our bodies and our

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50:15

Mike Whang and the Reciprocity of Liturgy

Radical Sacred ·

2025/12/10

Really lovely and meandering chat this week with the founder of Oikon Studios Mike Whang. Mike began Oikon Studios as a way of learning to walk in the unforced rhythms of grace.Through a gorgeous mixture of liturgy,spiritual formation, lectio divina, and music Mike invites us all to union with God, with true self, and with one another. Our attention is deeply rooted in what we’re attuned to and where our intention lies. What is calling you to divine union? Show Notes:Oikon StudiosPhygital

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68:15

Enchantment and Dragonflies with Brooke Williams

Radical Sacred ·

2025/12/03

It’s hard to put this episode with Brooke Williams on his new book Encountering Dragonfly into words! The breadth and width of this conversation is vast. We talk to Brooke about dragonflies, prophetic dreams, listening to your inner knowing, animal guides, re-enchantment, imaginal ecology, the veils between worlds, and more! Grateful for this lovely book, and for Brooke’s ability to invite, enliven, and re-enchant. Show Notes:Brooke Williams WebsiteEncountering Dragonfly : Notes on the Practice of

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Beth Norcross and Leah Rampy on Discovering the...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/11/26

We were so fortunate to meet Beth Norcross and Leah Rampy at The Wild Goose Festival! This chance encounter led us to reading their beautiful book Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees and to the lovely and deeply rooted conversation in this episode. The way Beth and Leah invite us back to nature, remind us that we are one with the trees, and embody looking to the trees as our teachers have inspired us so deeply. May we each find our love for all beings renewed and reinvigorated by these women

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58:24

Reciprocity and Flow with Melissa Fritchle

Radical Sacred ·

2025/11/19

We chat all about relational flow today with eco spiritual director, soul guide, holistic psychotherapist, author, and two time Radical Sacred guest Melissa Fritchle! When we begin to build our relationships based on reciprocity and flow beautiful new pathways begin to emerge. Join us for this invitational conversation on interdependence, creativity, intimacy, and following our yearning. Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): Melissa’s Website - Embody &

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55:23

Reciprocity is at the Heart of Parrott Creek

Radical Sacred ·

2025/11/12

Simon Fulford and Ame Mañon-Ferguson of Parrott Creek Child and Family Services chat with us about reimaging trauma healing and the expansive, gorgeous work they do for families and the 80 acres of land that surrounds their site. We were blown away by their care and intentionality with the folks they serve with and through their Cultural Ecology Project. We learn about treating all people with unconditional positive regard and about what happens when folks healing from trauma heal in an intentional

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