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Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips

Eric Siu and Neil Patel

Neil Patel and Eric Siu bring you daily ACTIONABLE digital marketing lessons that they"ve learned through years of being in the trenches. Whether you have a new website or you"re an established business, you"ll learn the latest SEO, content marketing, social media, email marketing, conversion optimization and general online marketing strategies that work today from people that actually practice marketing and operate business. Approaching 100M downloads with 2,500+ episodes, you"re sure to find

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20:50

Listicles Drive 9 in 10 Third-Party Mentions in AI...

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2025/10/30

In this episode, Neil and Eric break down new AirOps data revealing why listicles dominate AI search and what it means for marketers. They explore how algorithmic visibility favors authority, not spam, and debate the future of AI-driven rankings, remote work performance, and pricing resilience in a shaky economy. The duo wraps up with strategies for long-term brand durability and growth.TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Listicles dominate AI search (01:16) Algorithms will refine sources (07:06) Human nature

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23:01

ChatGPT continues to lose GenAI traffic share

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2025/10/29

In this episode, Eric and Neil unpack Similarweb’s latest data showing ChatGPT’s traffic share drop from 87.1% to 74.1% as Gemini climbs to 12.9%. They explore how Google’s ecosystem fuels Gemini’s rise, why ChatGPT’s memory may improve user retention, and how expert-verified AI research enhances accuracy in complex accounting topics like NOLs. They also discuss global marketing nuance, creative risks in Japan, and why the best companies often grow slowly before compounding. TIMESTAMPS (00:00)

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22:27

Is This the Best Vibe Coding Design App?

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2025/10/28

Hosted by Neil and Eric, this episode dives into real-world CRO workflows, using Spiralyze-style A/B test insights to guide changes, and rapid AI prototyping with Alloy.app to keep designs on-brand without endless Figma comments. We cover when to DIY vs delegate, a homepage redesign checklist, why an RFP button signals enterprise readiness, brand-search traffic realities, smarter brand-name PPC, and how to boost podcast revenue with pre-rolls and mid-rolls—all while tracking Gen Z’s shift to

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23:23

How AI is Actually Affecting The Labor Market

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2025/10/27

In this episode, Neil and Eric unpack how AI is transforming the job market from the ground up. They dive into worker stories from Reddit, the rise of a diamond-shaped workforce, and how hybrid strategists—those who can plan and execute—will dominate. The discussion covers McKinsey’s internal AI adoption, enterprise productivity data, AGI timelines, and the dangers of “AI slop” flooding workplaces. You’ll learn how AI drives profit without mass layoffs, where it truly adds ROI in marketing, and how

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21:47

The Right Way to Speak at Conferences

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2025/10/23

In this episode, Eric and Neil reveal the right way to speak at conferences for lasting impact. They share actionable tips on crafting talks that resonate, connecting with attendees beyond the stage, and why building relationships matters more than just delivering a speech. Plus, they discuss how top SEO influencers approach community, and unpack their enterprise content strategies, showing that listening to customers drives real results.TIMESTAMPS (00:00) The right way to speak at

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24:56

75,000 person agency is doomed

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2025/10/22

In this episode, Eric and Neil discuss why the penalty for "average" has never been more severe and how leveraging AI can dramatically increase efficiency and margins. They share firsthand hiring insights from agency giants, reveal lead and MQL trends, and explain why only 1% of companies truly benefit from AI. Plus, they debate the real impact of AI on agency growth, value-based pricing, and what it takes to close bigger B2B contracts. Tune in for hard data, actionable takeaways, and advice for

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24:53

7 unorthodox things we'd do with our marketing, if we...

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2025/10/21

In this episode, Eric and Neil reflect on what they wish they’d done differently in their 2024 marketing strategies. They share candid lessons on outbound marketing, messaging pivots, and collaboration tactics that brought real results. Learn why doubling down on outbound email, revising your messaging early, and leveraging webinars, influencer partnerships, and podcasts can significantly impact growth. Plus, hear about the opportunities they missed—and how you can avoid the same

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19:16

GEO, SEO, AI SEO, AEO… Which One Will Win?

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2025/10/20

In this episode, Eric and Neil debate the future of SEO terminology, covering GEO, AI SEO, AEO, and Search Everywhere Optimization. They reveal why client language trumps industry jargon, unpack insights from recent conferences, and share the real drivers of visibility across platforms like YouTube, Reddit, and Google. Hear lessons on adapting to client needs, optimizing for relevance, and why wasting marketing budgets on the wrong audiences is a costly mistake. TIMESTAMPS (00:00) GEO vs. AEO

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19:01

Legendary NFL Owner to Coach — Nobody Cares

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2025/10/16

In this episode, Eric and Neil dive into the intersection of high-performance leadership and AI-driven marketing. They unpack the “Nobody cares, just coach” mindset, how elite teams bring solutions not complaints, and why systems should evolve like an F1 pit crew. The duo also explore lower middle market private equity lessons, AI-powered SDRs, and how AEO and AI agents are redefining SEO careers. This is a practical playbook for agency owners, marketers, and operators who lead through

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20:10

A Moat Is Not A Noun. It's A Verb.

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2025/10/15

In this episode, Neil and Eric unpack how speed, brand, and switching costs form modern startup moats in an era where insights depreciate fast. Drawing from Garry Tan’s “moat is a verb” concept and real-world case studies, they explain how execution speed compounds advantage, why AI shifts moat dynamics, and how founders can turn speed into durable defensibility through process power, brand, and network effects.Key takeaways • Speed is a moat when insights fade fast • Brand and switching costs

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25:03

Bezos' One Profound Insight That Made Amazon a...

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2025/10/14

In this episode, Neil and Eric unpack Jeff Bezos’s $1 trillion “release the work” framework—how pacing ideas boosts throughput and prevents team overload. They dive into Bezos’s barrels-and-ammo model, smart acquisition filters, rapid due-diligence questions, and BATNA negotiation tactics. Plus, insights on AI shopping surfacing indie brands, the ChatGPT apps opportunity, and whether Google or Microsoft is the Berkshire of tech. A tactical guide for operators who want speed without chaos. Key

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19:55

Why hire people and get out of their way is BS...

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2025/10/13

In this episode, Eric and Neil unpack skip-level leadership and when founders should step in versus step back. They explore “focused involvement” as a leadership edge, compare international expansion with acquisitions, and dive into how chaos tolerance and incentives shape culture. The duo also discuss Amazon’s hit-rate mindset, micro-ops wins, and how to balance control with growth across teams. Key takeaways ● Focused involvement beats hands-off leadership ● Use skip-levels for truth and

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13:44

Why Corporate Jobs Are Quietly Collapsing

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2025/10/09

In this episode, Eric and Neil unpack the death of the corporate job and the hidden economy of nonsense. They discuss how corporate bloat, AI automation, and shifting job data reveal the end of traditional roles — and what that means for modern marketers. The duo explores AI-powered agentic workflows, smart micromanagement, burnout myths, and how founders can scale without losing momentum. Plus, why “riches in niches” often stalls growth and how to build compounding products that win long-term.Key

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31:50

How To Get B2B Attribution Right The Easy Way

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2025/10/08

In this episode, Eric and Neil discuss proven B2B attribution strategies, highlighting why the obsession with perfect multi-touch tracking misses the bigger picture. They explain the benefits of blended CAC, layering conversion pixels, UTM tracking, and the value (and limits) of “How did you hear about us” forms. Also covered are surprising traffic insights around ChatGPT referrals, lessons from HubSpot Inbound 2024, and why simplifying talks beats technical deep-dives. Finally, they reflect on

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25:40

Is AI in a Bubble Right Now?

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2025/10/07

In this episode, Eric and Neil dive into the current state of the AI market, debating whether AI—and especially AI stocks—are in a bubble or represent lasting value. They analyze major players like Nvidia, explore the hype vs. substance in AI startups, and discuss how real revenue and fundamental adoption differentiate lasting winners. The conversation also covers shifting dynamics in SEO, the influence of Reddit on AI training data, and why proper attribution in marketing is harder than ever for

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19:10

AI Is Making You Dumber (study)

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2025/10/07

In this episode, Neil and Eric tackle whether AI is making us dumber and what that means for the next generation of marketers. They discuss falling literacy and math scores, why kids need strong critical thinking before using AI, and how agentic workflows change marketing team structures. You’ll hear practical insights on balancing AI and human creativity, plus why real traction and case studies still win clients in an AI-driven world. Timestamps (00:00) Is AI making us dumber? (01:00) Reading

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21:19

AI Companies Are Taking a Lot of The Good Marketers

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2025/10/02

In this episode, Eric and Neil talk about how AI companies are outbidding everyone for elite marketers, why many would join an AI rocket ship if starting today, and the reality of 996 work cultures. They debate “hire fast, fire fast,” share real exec hit rates and expectation-setting, and double down on why sales follow-up beats first-touch wins. They also cover AI-powered outbound (doing work upfront to earn meetings), an AI artist’s $3M record deal, AI podcast farms flooding feeds, and why human

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16:51

Why Framing Is Everything

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2025/10/01

In this episode, Neil and Eric dive into the psychology of framing, from how child-mortality data shifts when reframed to the power of decoy pricing in guiding customer choices. They discuss why consistent brand building compounds most after 10 years, share lessons from Single Grain’s reset, and explore how SEO, referrals, and content mix evolve over time. Plus, they highlight tools, strategies, and the long-term mindset marketers need for lasting results.TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Framing effect

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20:47

Google AI Mode is About to Get More Popular

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2025/09/30

In this episode, Eric and Neil unpack Google AI Mode’s Chrome integration and how 100M MAUs could ignite a new distribution flywheel—fueling ads, partnerships, and startup pressure. They compare Google’s gen video/image capabilities, debate the “free subsidized by ads” model, and analyze YouTube’s latest updates: TV-style ad swaps, title tests, AI Inspirations, collabs, dubbing, and creator discovery. They also reveal why topic choice beats flashy hooks, share a multilingual trend-mining workflow,

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28:00

Elon Musk's 'Daddy's Home' Insane Work Schedule

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2025/09/29

In this episode, Neil and Eric dissect Elon Musk’s “Daddy is very much home” grind—from Optimus engineering to late-night Tesla chip reviews and a Colossus 2 data center walk. They explore Musk’s DESA method for ruthless prioritization, why relationships saved Tesla and SpaceX, and how barrels, drivers, and pushers define execution and leadership under pressure. TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Elon’s “Daddy is home” schedule (03:40) Relationships that saved Tesla/SpaceX (06:00) Musk’s DESA operating

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