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SPILL THE (GREEN) TEA: How to talk about sustainability without getting called out

Katie Treggiden, Malin Cunningham

Making Design Circular is evolving. With a new name, a new remit, and a new co-host, this next chapter is all about one of the most urgent conversations in business today: how to talk about sustainability with honesty, nuance, and confidence. Katie Treggiden is joined by Malin Cunningham, founder of B Corp-certified B2B thought leadership consultancy Hattrick, to launch Spill the Green Tea – a podcast exploring how brands can communicate their environmental efforts without tipping into

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00:35:01

In Conversation with...Tamu Thomas, part 2

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2023/12/14

In this episode, Katie continues last week’s conversation with Tamu Thomas a renowned transformational life coach, dedicated to guiding women towards achieving work-life harmony by embracing holistic well-being practices that align with their nervous system. Katie & Tamu explore:The term ‘high-functioning freeze’Defiant hope & rage Activism v Martyrdom And of course, the final quick fire round of season 4!You can connect with Tamu hereWebsite: https://www.livethreesixty.com/ and

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01:05:15

In Conversation with...Tamu Thomas

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2023/12/07

In this episode, Katie talks to Tamu Thomas a renowned transformational life coach and the author of "Women Who Work Too Much: Break Free from Toxic Productivity and Find Your Joy." She is dedicated to guiding women towards achieving work-life harmony by embracing holistic well-being practices that align with their nervous system. Tamu's groundbreaking book sheds light on the systemic pressures that force women into a cycle of over-functioning, often leading to significant workplace stress and an

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01:05:01

Exploring...Shake off the "Should"s (Part 3: Grow)

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2023/11/24

In this episode, Katie explores “Grow” – the third and final pillar of the Making Design Circular framework which is all about:Learning so that you can make informed decisions, and curating trusted sources of information so that you can avoid greenwashingWalking (not running) so that you can break down your sustainability journey into manageable steps and take them one by oneNurturing yourself as you go, because to look after the environment, you need to look after the environmentalistKatie also

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00:53:24

Exploring...Shake off the "Should"s (Part 2: Plant)

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2023/11/23

In this episode, Katie dives into “Plant” – the second pillar of the Making Design Circular framework which is all about:Believing that you can make a difference because hope is the precursor to change.Defining your unique contribution to environmentalism so you can stop trying to save the planet single-handedly and find the (probably tiny) area in which you can make a big impact.Playing with curiosity, creativity and experimentation, because that is the soil in which creativity thrivesYou will

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00:46:16

Exploring...Shake off the "Should"s (Part 1: Release)

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2023/11/22

In this episode, Katie explores “Release” – the first pillar of the Making Design Circular framework which is all about:Absolving yourself from guilt, because the climate crisis is not your faultReleasing yourself from perfectionism so that you can actually make progressLetting go of the idea that there is one “right” way to do environmentalism and instead making informed decisions that align with your valuesThis episode will help you define your values and learn how to apply them to day-to-day

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00:41:18

In Conversation With...Lucy Hawthorne

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2023/11/08

In this episode, Katie talks to Lucy Hawthorne. Lucy is a campaigner at heart and Founder of Climate Play. Through play-based training and facilitation for adults, she helps make it safe, light and fun for people to face climate change. Combining a lot of LEGO with climate psychology, she creates conversation on the topic that teams actually want to have, rather than only feel like they should. Her serious play approach helps people to engage more honestly, deeply and creatively, identifying ways to

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00:50:58

In Conversation With...Ella Wiles and Andres Roberts

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2023/11/01

In this episode, Katie talks to Ella Wiles and Andres Roberts from The Bio-Leadership Project. The Bio-Leadership Project’s mission is to change the story of leadership by working with nature. A movement of people and organisations, changing human systems to be more resilient, regenerative, and designed to protect our planet.Bio-Leadership is about challenging an outdated story of progress, about building organisations and communities that protect and replenish our world. Most importantly, it is

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00:33:35

Walk don’t run: The 5-stage path to sustainability

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2023/10/25

In this episode, Katie digs into one part of her Making Design Circular framework, the methodology that underpins everything she does. She talks about walk, and walk is short for walk, don't run. It is this idea that you don't have to do everything all at once you can take things step by step. And to support you doing that she has developed a path to sustainability, taking of all the things you could possibly do and put them into an order. By the end of this episode, you will be able to work out

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00:46:29

In Conversation With...Tom Curran

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2023/10/18

In this episode, Katie talks to Tom Curran, a World Leading Expert on Perfectionism. With an eye on politics, economics, and society, he takes a cultural lens to the study of perfectionism. His work is groundbreaking and has uncovered a frightening trend of young people breaking under the strain of perfectionistic pressures. Tom brings perfectionism to life and makes it relevant and understandable to the widest audiences. He is a TED speaker and Thought Leader, a regular contributor to high-profile

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00:14:57

Exploring Broken: Mending and repair in a throwaway...

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2023/10/11

This week Katie is doing something a little different.As you may have heard her mentioned in the previous episode, her latest book, Broken: Mending and repair in a throwaway world came out in April of this year, and she will be reading you the wonderfully. Thought-provoking introduction to give you a flavour of the book. Here are some highlights:Making a statement“Although any form of mending or repair could be seen as a form of activism in today's single use culture, many of today's artists,

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00:50:24

In conversation with... Minnie Moll, Design Council

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2023/10/04

In this episode, Katie talks to Minnie Moll, Chief Executive at the Design Council. Minnie spent years in innovation, design, advertising and brand consultancy. She was Managing Partner of HHCL, the ‘Advertising Agency of the decade’ and then Global Marketing Director of Innovation company? What If!, which won Great Place to Work Institute’s ‘Best Place to Work in the UK’ two years running. Minnie was voted Vistage UK Business Leader of the Year in 2020. Always a purpose driven business leader, she

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01:09:15

A New Leaf, Day 3 - Grow

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2023/08/29

A NEW LEAF, DAY 3: GROWI always think it interesting that if a houseplant doesn't flourish, we never blame the plant – we always look at the soil, the light, the water and the air and make sure it had everything it needs – why don't we do the same for ourselves?So the third part of the workshop was all about creating the compost that would allow the seeds we planted on Day 2 to grow. (If you don't like worms, you might want to skip this page of the workbook!)Here are some more journalling prompts

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00:51:21

A New Leaf, Day 2 - Plant

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2023/08/28

A NEW LEAF, DAY 2: PLANTOn the second day of the A New Leaf workshop, I shared one of my favourite Arundhati Roy quotes: “Another world is not only possible,she is on her way.On a quiet day,I can hear her breathing.”With that quote in mind, here are some more journalling prompts for you...What brings you hope? What can you already hear breathing?Bearing in mind what you released yesterday, what are your hopes for your creative practice for the rest of 2023/2024?If you had to just pick one thing to

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01:01:32

A New Leaf, Day 1 - Release

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2023/08/25

A NEW LEAF, DAY 1: RELEASEIf you're feeling like the year is running away with you and you want to get back on track so you can make some genuine and positive progress, the first step is to release whatever is not serving you – so spend a little time journalling on these questions...What's left on your list for 2023/24?Being really honest about your time, energy and resources, what needs to get bumped to 2024/2025? Or even released entirely?What beliefs about yourself and your environmentalism

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01:02:16

Laura Eigel

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2023/03/29

In this episode, Katie is joined by Laura Eigel PhD, the founder of The Catch Group, a leadership coaching firm accelerating women into the C-suite, and the host of the You Belong in the C-Suite podcast. Known for her direct feedback and her passion for living a life guided by her values, she has been an HR executive at Fortune 50 companies, joined the C-suite as a Chief Learning Officer, and now coaches high-achieving women to build fulfilling lives inside and outside of the boardroom. She's also a

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00:27:47

Define

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2023/03/22

In this episode, Katie talks about Define, another element of the Making Design Circular framework, this is all about working out your niche, your unique contribution to environmentalism, and letting go of the idea that you have to save the planet single-handedly. Here are some highlights:The Starfish Story“…this particular story is about a little girl who is walking on the beach, and there's been a big storm. And lots and lots of starfish have been thrown up onto the beach after this storm, and

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01:11:07

Ray Dodd

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2023/03/15

In this episode, Katie talks to Ray Dodd a Money Coach who helps those who have traditionally been excluded from making money, to make life-changing amounts of money. All without compromising who they are. If you’re hearing the term ‘money coach’ and wincing a little – imagining fluffy talk of manifesting millions in your sleep, – prepare to have your fears soothed – because you’re in for a treat. Ray is a money coach with a difference. You won’t hear ‘think good thoughts and watch the money come

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00:28:34

Believe

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2023/03/08

In this episode, Katie explores another of the pillars of the making design circular framework – Believe. The idea that we need to bring about change and that we need to believe that it's possible, but as ever it’s easier said than done. Maintaining hope, and believing that we can sort all this out, is the work. It’s one of the hardest things we have to do as environmentalists so Katie is diving into how to maintain that stubborn optimism, how to cultivate hope in the face of the climate crisis

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00:54:39

Jay Blades

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2023/03/01

In this episode, Katie speaks with Jay Blades, a modern furniture restorer, upcycler and eco designer who is passionate about sustainability and community. We discuss his history with furniture restoration, the importance of investing in the next generation of creators, why helping people you may never meet truly matters and lots more. Jay Blades is now best known for presenting the BBC’s Money for Nothing, The Repair Shop and most recently Jay and Dom's Home Fix. I’ve known Jay for a long time, so

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00:23:46

Liberate

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2023/02/22

In this episode, Katie talks about perfectionism, about:Liberating yourself from perfectionism, the second part of the first pillar of the MDC frameworkHer personal journey with perfectionism including publishing her first foray into the online learning and recording a podcastThe idea of toxic professionalism – the sense that any deviation from a white, straight, cis, tall, able-body bodied man in a suit is seen as unprofessional – and the similarities between this and perfectionism – the sense of

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