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All of the Above Podcast

All of the Above

Welcome to All of the Above, the show that gives you an un-standardized take on education! We"re your home for news and analysis of all the complex, relevant, and controversial issues impacting our schools today. Hosted by the super-dope duo of history teacher Dr. Manuel Rustin and principal-leader Jeffrey Garrett, two Black male lifelong educators based in Los Angeles. This is the podcast version of our video series. Check out the dopest education show on YouTube and subscribe to our channel at

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01:05:26

Normalizing the Not Normal: Vaccine Denial,...

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2025/09/06

This Week: Jeff got a letter published in EdWeek this month, challenging the publication of right wing opinion pieces that are racist, and overtly hostile to the institution of public school. This brings us to today’s topic, the rising tide of normalization of the not normal in our world of education. From the absolutely insane move in Florida to end school vaccine mandates, even referring to them as “slavery,” to yet another misguided set of responses (and here) to the latest tragic school shooting

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01:11:29

Mpls School Shooting, Ten Commandments in TX Schools,...

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2025/08/30

This Week: Here we are again. Another tragic school shooting, and the tone deaf, empty gestures of thoughts and prayers is all we’re left with from those in power. We can, and most, do better. Meanwhile, a federal judge in TX stops an obvious 1st Amendment violation which would require the 10 commandments be posted in all school classrooms (see decision). But the state attorney general instructs all schools outside of that district to proceed anyways. Here in SoCal, Beverly Hills decides to display

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01:05:29

The BOY Episode - Starting the School Year with...

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2025/08/16

This Week: As the school year begins across many parts of America, we welcome back our long time friend of the show and middle school literacy coach extraordinaire Genevieve DeBose. With some fascinating new survey data out from the Rand Corp. showing modest improvements in teachers' plans to remain in the profession, but persistent job related stress, we talk about how wily vets are staying motivated, engaged, and continuing to find joy in the work. Plus, with so much swirling around schools --

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01:13:23

The War on Ethnic Studies Continues, and Takes a...

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2025/08/03

This Week: Despite deep “blue” California being poised to implement the first-in-the-nation, state-wide ethnic studies graduation requirement, the insidious efforts from within to undermine, co-opt, and whitewash the curriculum are still afoot. Earlier this year a coalition of state legislators tried passing AB 1468 as a naked attempt to gut ethnic studies. Now, they’re back with AB 715, complete with Trumpian style rhetoric around “preventing antisemitism” while it violates 1st amendment rights,

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01:08:45

Adulting 101, and do Experienced Teachers Continue to...

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2025/07/12

This Week: Sometimes research tells us something new, and sometimes it confirms what we thought we already knew. A new study from the Fordham Institute does both, showing that contrary to some popular lines of thinking, experienced teachers do in fact continue to improve their practice well into their 2nd decade of teaching. We also dive into a fascinating story about a teacher in Michigan who is teaching Adulting 101 and 102 to her students. The popular electives take on everything from personal

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01:10:45

Happy Fascist Friday!

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2025/06/28

This Week: Holy shit. Normally we don’t curse around these parts, but damn. It’s an abject mess of theocracy, authoritarianism, and outright attacks on rights, freedoms, and the nation’s public schools this week. On Friday the Court handed down the last of its rulings from the 2024 term, and there are several major implications for public education… all terrible. In Mahmoud v. Taylor they ruled that schools have to allow families to opt out of content about LGBTQ+ people for religious reasons,

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01:15:10

The Kids Aint Reading… Does It Matter?

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2025/06/14

Data from both the US and UK shows that reading for pleasure is on the decline for kids of all ages, and adults too. For the youngest children, time reading with a loving adult is also on the decline, at the same time as screen time is rising sharply. In a world where a generation who grew up on screens themselves is now having children, is this just the way of the future, or are we losing something fundamental that should concern us? And, for this week in American fascism in education, we shed

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01:12:00

What’s the Purpose of High School?

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2025/06/07

This Week: A fascinating piece in Chalkbeat breaks down some of the pros and cons of states adopting varied graduation pathways to a HS diploma. In a world where AI can do your homework, where it seems like we have no idea what the economic future will look like, and all but 6 states have dropped their HS exit exam requirements, what is - or should be - the purpose of a high school education? But first, this week in American fascism in education was a doozy. Yikes. We got the Labor Dept shutting

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01:15:18

College Board Says “No Racism Here” as it Ends Racial...

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2025/05/31

This Week: The College Board casts its lot with the most regressive, racist actors in our society by stripping race from consideration in its National Recognition Program. The likely outcome of this decision will be a reduction in scholarship funds for Black, Latino, and Native American students, and a shifting of those funds to overrepresented Asian and white students. Here we go again. Plus, in “This Week in American Fascism in Education” the Supreme Court lets stand a lower court ruling upholding

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01:18:50

Should We Bring Back the Zero? Equitable Grading...

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2025/05/24

This Week: Coming out of the pandemic, schools across the country implemented versions of more equitable grading practices. Today, as the immediate effects of the pandemic are behind us, new questions are coming up about whether the pendulum swung too far, and we should return to more traditional, and punitive grading practices. A piece out of Chalkbeat Chicago this week sums up the debate nicely in their high schools. Also, we talk through “This Week in American Fascism in Education” where Donny,

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01:10:28

News Roundup! Confederates Confederating, Newsom...

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2025/05/17

This Week: Whew, it’s been a doozy of a week in American education. Today we do a bit of a news round up with analysis of the stories that resonated most for us. We’ve got Linda McMahon out here dropping the ball on student loan repayment plan applications, with 96% going unprocessed, sometimes for over a year! Class warfare and attempts to gut higher ed are in full swing. Gov. Gavin Newsom showing his conservative true colors as he blocks funding the CA’s ethnic studies HS graduation requirement

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01:08:13

They Cheatin! Bombshell Piece Reveals Extent and Cost...

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2025/05/10

This Week: Everywhere you turn nowadays we are bombarded within AI. From commercials to websites, to our smartphones, you can’t escape it. And neither can the nation’s college students. A bombshell piece in NY Magazine’s Intelligencer this week profiles the extent to which AI use to cheat is endemic in colleges, and the growing concerns around the ethics and potential harm to humans of AI use (also try here). From students doing virtually no writing and relying entirely on AI, to those who use AI

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01:11:00

HVAC Systems and Student Achievement, Plus the Latest...

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2025/04/27

This Week: What would it look like if the people, who claim to care so much about the welfare of the nation’s schools and children, actually spent their (our) time, money, and resources on things that benefited the nation’s schools and children? Well, it might look like talking about our first story today, a study from the Annenberg Institute about the surprising connections between HVAC systems and student learning. Of course, instead of talking about things like this, the powers that be are busy

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01:15:18

This Week in Education in Fascist America… The...

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2025/04/19

This Week: DHS agents attempt to arrest kids from two Los Angeles elementary schools. The Trump admin unleashes demands that embody government overreach and 1st Amendment violations aimed at colleges, Harvard refuses to comply, costing at least $2.3B in funding for now. Faculty at the Big 10 schools lead an effort to create a NATO-like mutual defense compact to defend against the republican attacks. Then the Wisconsin governor uses an unusual level of veto power to extend additional school funding

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00:27:20

Throwback! AOTA Show on Flip the Script KPFK 90.7...

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2025/04/12

This Week: Since Jeff is out there somewhere doing super-duper-dope-principal-leader-man things, we thought it’d be worthwhile to re-post this interview we did in 2019 on KPFK’s Flip the Script with Vida Starr. It’s a bit of a throwback about who we are and why we started All of the Above in the first place. The interviewer, Chavonne Taylor, is a Los Angeles community champion who first appeared on our show earlier that year.WAYS TO HELP WITH THE EATON FIRE IN ALTADENA/PASADENA -- Please consider

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01:07:21

The Wickedness Continues from DC, and Lessons on...

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2025/04/05

This Week: Tired of the wickedness coming from DC? Us too. And, we’re gonna keep you updated on the latest. Trump threatened states with stripping federal education funds if they don’t sign a letter within 10 days certifying they don’t do DEI. The Supreme Court, in all of its great wisdom, reversed a lower court’s injunction preventing the Trump admin from withholding hundreds of millions in funding for teacher preparation and training. And, as the move towards privatization of public education

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01:14:55

Feds Begin Effort to Force of Outing LGBTQ+ Students,...

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2025/03/29

This Week: In the latest chapter of weaponizing the civil rights arm of the US Dept of Ed against the very marginalized groups whose rights it was created to protect, the Trump admin announced an investigation into CA’s SAFETY Act, claiming that the state may be violating FERPA by preventing districts from requiring educators to out LGBTQ+ and curious students to their families. And, in a dastardly, trojan horse style move, a group of mostly democratic CA legislatures launches a disingenuous attack

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01:12:47

Trump and McMahon Come Off The Third Rope On Public...

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2025/03/22

This Week: Well, they did it. Sort of. After telling us what the plan was like evil Bond villains, the White House released the latest in its abuses of executive power this week to, ostensibly, “Improve Educational Outcomes” by doing all it can to close the US Dept of Ed without technically closing it. It’s a textbook case of policy violence, with only a thin veil covering the efforts at privatization, weakening of the institutions that educate the nation, and outright attack on what’s left of our

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01:09:17

Republicans Gut USDOE And Let Us Know Everyone Is NOT...

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2025/03/15

This Week: It’s only been a week since we last spoke, and in that time the US Dept of Education is effectively ½ the size it was, and what’s left is being weaponized to target colleges and universities. Plus, an Idaho teacher makes headlines for resisting her district’s message to take down signs that say “everyone is welcome here.” The district says the signs “don’t allow people to express differing opinions, that it is controversial in today’s political environment.” The era of using school and

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01:25:48

#117 - The DEI Backlash w/ Joe Truss! (REPOST)

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2025/03/12

REPOST - It was all good just a few summers ago! Folks of all backgrounds were marching, corporations were pledging, and America was, well…reckoning. Since the flurry of movement in support of racial justice in the summer of 2020, we have witnessed a severe backlash and regression that most recently has included the federal government attempting to make it illegal to even use the most basic vocabulary of equity and justice in schools. How did we get here, and how can educators survive, resist, and

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