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All of the Above Podcast

All of the Above

Welcome to All of the Above, the show that gives you an un-standardized take on education! We"re your home for news and analysis of all the complex, relevant, and controversial issues impacting our schools today. Hosted by the super-dope duo of history teacher Dr. Manuel Rustin and principal-leader Jeffrey Garrett, two Black male lifelong educators based in Los Angeles. This is the podcast version of our video series. Check out the dopest education show on YouTube and subscribe to our channel at

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01:01:35

Those who can’t do, teach…right?

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2025/11/01

This Week: The popular narrative in the American public discourse that teaching is somehow both super easy -- you get off at 3, you have summers off, it’s an easy profession to enter -- and also so hard and low paying that it’s a “noble” profession like the priesthood, still persists. Some new data from the 2025 RAND Corp’s American Teacher Survey tells a much more stark narrative about the stress, burnout, and challenges of doing the work. And, the comparisons between American educators and those

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00:18:47

AI Is Eroding Student-Teacher Trust

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2025/10/29

Today on AOTA Shorts: You’ve probably thought about the consequences of AI in school -- cheating, making us dumber, rampant and undetectable plagiarism, making learning obsolete -- and if you’re on top of it, you’ve probably also thought about the devastating climate and ecological impacts on school communities. But a recent article explores a new facet of the challenges with AI, the deep erosion of trust between students and teachers. Presumptions of guilt and big brother academic policing

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00:14:39

A Dose of Their Own Medicine: CO District Sued for...

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2025/10/22

Today on AOTA Shorts: We’ve talked a lot about the potential costs to school systems (and taxpayers, of course) for the madness of book bans and laws allowing the challenging of “woke” content in schools. But a story out of a small district in Colorado offers, perhaps, new hope in the equation. Give em a dose of their own medicine. Elizabeth School District is facing a lawsuit from the ALCU and families challenging their ban on books featuring LGBTQ characters and written by authors of color. As the

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00:17:56

Trump & McMahon Put Nail in the Coffin of USDOE

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2025/10/18

Today on AOTA Shorts: They said they were going to do it before the election. They began the process of death by 1000 cuts (or a few dozen cuts as it may be) in week one when they took office. And now that the government shutdown continues, the clearly unconstitutional goal of ending the US Department of Education has been made this week, with Trump and Linda McMahon laying off nearly every worker in the USDOE Office of Elementary and Secondary Education. But, as with all things fascist and

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01:02:25

Cash for Attendance: Good Look, or Nah?

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2025/10/13

This Week: Everyone in education knows that chronic absenteeism is a big deal. While the numbers are improving slowly in recent years, we’ve still yet to return to pre-pandemic levels of students who miss multiple days of school each month. So what should schools do to address this issue? Well, California has finally repealed its law throwing criminal penalties at families for truancy, acknowledging it was a failure and only punishes families already struggling with a plethora of issues. And in

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00:16:08

Teacher Pay Penalty Hits Record High

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2025/10/10

Today on AOTA Shorts: You’ve heard it all… summers off, your day ends at 3pm, so many holidays, what you do is so admirable, affirmations of the belief that we should pay teachers more (as they vote against the measures to do so). As we face national teacher shortages, attacks on public education from the right, and declining budgets, turns out the teacher pay gap has gotten worse than ever. Compared to comparably educated professions, teachers earn only 73 cents on the dollar earned by their

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00:13:35

White Affirmative Action: The Classic Learning Test...

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2025/10/08

Today on AOTA Shorts: In what we can only think of as some new wave, reverse reverse racism nonsense, the Classic Standardized Test is gaining ground nationally as a competitor to the traditional college entrance exams. The test essentially does that the SAT and ACT do, but with longer, mostly whiter reading passages, supposedly rooted in the “classic” works that have shaped “our” (who exactly?) history and culture. Of course, Florida became the first state in the country to accept the test in its

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00:14:20

USC Doubles Down on Legacy and Donor Admits,...

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2025/10/06

Today on AOTA Shorts: Haters call them the “University of Spoiled Children” but USC isn’t doing themselves any favors these days with a brazen violation of the new CA law banning donor and legacy status being used as a factor in the college admissions process even at private universities in the state. USC will have to share data on legacy and donor admits, and will be placed on the state DOJ website for what can be described as a proverbial slap on the wrist. Yet again, when confronted with the

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01:06:08

Dumber by Design: Faculty Prepare for An Exodus from...

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2025/09/27

This Week: As the right wing war on higher education continues a climate of “fear and hopelessness” sets in among the ranks of college faculty across the former confederate states in particular. One in four scholars in the south report applying to a job in another state, primarily states in the north and west where the restrictions on research, attacks on academic freedom, and repression of marginalized groups is at least not being exacerbated at the state level. Also, we do a round up of fascist

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01:15:12

Amidst the Chilling Effect: Educator Free Speech,...

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2025/09/20

This Week: Educators across the country are facing investigations, professional sanctions, doxing, and being placed on public lists in states across the country for statements posted following the public execution of right wing leader Charlie Kirk. The chilling effect being felt by educators nationally, and especially in states like Florida, raises new concerns about the rights educators have to free speech and academic freedom, as well as questions about the impact this right wing backlash will

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01:05:26

Normalizing the Not Normal: Vaccine Denial,...

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2025/09/06

This Week: Jeff got a letter published in EdWeek this month, challenging the publication of right wing opinion pieces that are racist, and overtly hostile to the institution of public school. This brings us to today’s topic, the rising tide of normalization of the not normal in our world of education. From the absolutely insane move in Florida to end school vaccine mandates, even referring to them as “slavery,” to yet another misguided set of responses (and here) to the latest tragic school shooting

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01:11:29

Mpls School Shooting, Ten Commandments in TX Schools,...

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2025/08/30

This Week: Here we are again. Another tragic school shooting, and the tone deaf, empty gestures of thoughts and prayers is all we’re left with from those in power. We can, and most, do better. Meanwhile, a federal judge in TX stops an obvious 1st Amendment violation which would require the 10 commandments be posted in all school classrooms (see decision). But the state attorney general instructs all schools outside of that district to proceed anyways. Here in SoCal, Beverly Hills decides to display

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01:05:29

The BOY Episode - Starting the School Year with...

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2025/08/16

This Week: As the school year begins across many parts of America, we welcome back our long time friend of the show and middle school literacy coach extraordinaire Genevieve DeBose. With some fascinating new survey data out from the Rand Corp. showing modest improvements in teachers' plans to remain in the profession, but persistent job related stress, we talk about how wily vets are staying motivated, engaged, and continuing to find joy in the work. Plus, with so much swirling around schools --

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01:13:23

The War on Ethnic Studies Continues, and Takes a...

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2025/08/03

This Week: Despite deep “blue” California being poised to implement the first-in-the-nation, state-wide ethnic studies graduation requirement, the insidious efforts from within to undermine, co-opt, and whitewash the curriculum are still afoot. Earlier this year a coalition of state legislators tried passing AB 1468 as a naked attempt to gut ethnic studies. Now, they’re back with AB 715, complete with Trumpian style rhetoric around “preventing antisemitism” while it violates 1st amendment rights,

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01:08:45

Adulting 101, and do Experienced Teachers Continue to...

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2025/07/12

This Week: Sometimes research tells us something new, and sometimes it confirms what we thought we already knew. A new study from the Fordham Institute does both, showing that contrary to some popular lines of thinking, experienced teachers do in fact continue to improve their practice well into their 2nd decade of teaching. We also dive into a fascinating story about a teacher in Michigan who is teaching Adulting 101 and 102 to her students. The popular electives take on everything from personal

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01:10:45

Happy Fascist Friday!

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2025/06/28

This Week: Holy shit. Normally we don’t curse around these parts, but damn. It’s an abject mess of theocracy, authoritarianism, and outright attacks on rights, freedoms, and the nation’s public schools this week. On Friday the Court handed down the last of its rulings from the 2024 term, and there are several major implications for public education… all terrible. In Mahmoud v. Taylor they ruled that schools have to allow families to opt out of content about LGBTQ+ people for religious reasons,

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01:15:10

The Kids Aint Reading… Does It Matter?

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2025/06/14

Data from both the US and UK shows that reading for pleasure is on the decline for kids of all ages, and adults too. For the youngest children, time reading with a loving adult is also on the decline, at the same time as screen time is rising sharply. In a world where a generation who grew up on screens themselves is now having children, is this just the way of the future, or are we losing something fundamental that should concern us? And, for this week in American fascism in education, we shed

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01:12:00

What’s the Purpose of High School?

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2025/06/07

This Week: A fascinating piece in Chalkbeat breaks down some of the pros and cons of states adopting varied graduation pathways to a HS diploma. In a world where AI can do your homework, where it seems like we have no idea what the economic future will look like, and all but 6 states have dropped their HS exit exam requirements, what is - or should be - the purpose of a high school education? But first, this week in American fascism in education was a doozy. Yikes. We got the Labor Dept shutting

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01:15:18

College Board Says “No Racism Here” as it Ends Racial...

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2025/05/31

This Week: The College Board casts its lot with the most regressive, racist actors in our society by stripping race from consideration in its National Recognition Program. The likely outcome of this decision will be a reduction in scholarship funds for Black, Latino, and Native American students, and a shifting of those funds to overrepresented Asian and white students. Here we go again. Plus, in “This Week in American Fascism in Education” the Supreme Court lets stand a lower court ruling upholding

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01:18:50

Should We Bring Back the Zero? Equitable Grading...

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2025/05/24

This Week: Coming out of the pandemic, schools across the country implemented versions of more equitable grading practices. Today, as the immediate effects of the pandemic are behind us, new questions are coming up about whether the pendulum swung too far, and we should return to more traditional, and punitive grading practices. A piece out of Chalkbeat Chicago this week sums up the debate nicely in their high schools. Also, we talk through “This Week in American Fascism in Education” where Donny,

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