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Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes

On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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Episode 86: Pili Coït

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2025/07/09

Pili Coït is at its core the musical duo (and couple) of Jessica Martin Maresco and Guilhem Meier. Almost immediately after meeting 19 years ago the pair started making music together.In 2017 with the creation of Pink Noise the musical entity of Pili Coït was born. Since then the duo have released Love Everywhere in 2021 and most recently a split EP with Yowie (both on SKiN GRAFT Records).For the latest release the pair have expanded to an eight-piece to become Pili Coït & Les Exocrines.Jessica

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Episode 85: Thymme Jones (Cheer-Accident)

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2025/07/04

If we are to follow official accounts, then Admission (released last week on SKiN GRAFT Records) is the 26th album by Chicago's Cheer-Accident. Word has it that the album may be the band's best ever. And while it would serve no one to get caught up in hyperbole, it is indeed a great album.Songwriter and multi-instrumentalist Thymme Jones has been at the helm of the band since its inception in 1981. How much could really be covered in one hour? Well, enough to discuss the latest record, the band's

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Episode 84: Monica Richards & Steve Willett (Strange...

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2025/07/01

While 31 years is a mere blink of the eye for the universe, for a band it's a long gap between records. For Washington DC's Strange Boutique their 1994 record The Kindest Worlds was very much intended, at the time, to be their final farewell—with the various members all going on to separate projects. With the passing of guitarist Fred Smith in 2017 singer Monica Richards and bassist Steve Willett found themselves together again, remembering their compatriot and their time together as Strange

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Episode 83: Charlie Werber (Lovely Little Girls,...

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2025/06/27

Drummer and composer Charlie Werber made his name in the 2010s applying his distinctive drumming skills to underground, Chicago rock bands like Lovely Little Girls. More recently, a little state-hopping saw Charlie involved in other intriguing musical projects like CHIROMANCER (alongside composer, pianist and singer Evelyn Davis) and The Flying Luttenbachers. The newly-released Krater (mastered by Todd Rittmann) sees Charlie release music under his own name for the first time—the album a dichotomy,

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54:54

Episode 82: Eugene S. Robinson & Xabier Iriondo (BUÑUEL)

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2025/06/24

Both singer Eugene S. Robinson and guitarist Xabier Iriondo have no shortage of credits in the world of music making and beyond. Together, however, they are one half of hard-rock four-piece BUÑUEL (alongside bassist David Haemery and drummer Frank Valente). October of last year saw the band's latest album Mansuetude co-released by SKiN GRAFT Records and OVERDRIVE Records. Today, as the band embark on their latest headlining North American tour in support of the record (with Today Is The Day,

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Episode 81: Todd Rittmann (U.S. Maple, Dead Rider)

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2025/06/20

When recounting the rich history of Chicago's weird and wonderful boundary-pushing rock bands, a special place will always be held by U.S. Maple.Comprising drummer Pat Samson, singer Al Johnson and guitarists Mark Shippy and Todd Rittmann, the band gave the world 12 years of their own unique brand of angular, idiosyncratic rock n roll before scattering in the wind.With SKiN GRAFT Records having last week put out a special vinyl and CD reissue of the debut U.S. Maple album Long Hair In Three Stages

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57:32

Episode 80: Arad Evans (The Whimbrels, Glenn Branca...

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2025/06/17

The Whimbrels brings together a group of musicians with an impressive art-rock pedigree, featuring former members of Glenn Branca Ensemble, Swans, J. Mascis & the Fog and many others besides.Arad Evans, one of the band's three guitarists (one of two vocalists and chief songwriter) joins me to discuss the group's forthcoming eponymous, debut record (an album full of inventive playing and memorable melodies), as we also get into some of his musical history and insights into how the band constructs

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45:42

Episode 79: Strawberry Fuzz

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2025/06/13

In the few years that Venice, California's Strawberry Fuzz have been in existence they've already built up a dedicated local following, toured with The Buzzcocks and built a reputation for delivering wild live shows.The band's latest album Miller's Garage is about as varied a release as you could hope for in the realms of punk rock. Tight, powerful, catchy, funny and well produced.With lead guitarist Kris Miller allegedly recovering from a heavy night, vocalist Colby Rodgers, rhythm guitarist Alex

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Episode 78: Thibault Lieurade (Zir Pachet)

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2025/06/10

U De Fas, the debut full-length record by French alternative-rock four-piece Zir Pachet, was released on Influenza Records last Friday. That three of the band’s four members live in different parts of France did not stop Zir Pachet from realising their creative vision and I’m very happy about that, because U De Fas is a great record and if you, like me, are a fan of bands like Sonic Youth and Fugazi, I’m pretty sure you’ll enjoy the album too. Thibault Lieurade (the band’s vocalist and rhythm

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49:29

Shelby Lermo: (BLOOD MONOLITH, Ulthar, Nails)

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2025/06/06

Shelby Lermo, the mastermind behind deathgrind unit BLOOD MONOLITH, is never short of musical projects to keep himself busy with.In the midst of a tour with Nails (supporting Obituary) at the time of this interview, the vocalist and guitarist joins me to discuss The Calling of Fire, the brutal debut record from BLOOD MONOLITH (out now on Profound Lore Records), as well as talking about his guitar playing origins and his thoughts on touring and social media.Closing track: "Trepanation Worm"Thanks to

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55:41

Episode 76: Daniel Wallenborg (K L P S)

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2025/06/03

K L P S (out now on These Hands Melt) is the self-titled, second full-length record by Swedish sludge-metal group K L P S (pronounced /kəˈlaps/), a record that you can definitely work out to, or indeed feel the raging fires of the apocalypse coming over the horizon to. Guitarist and vocalist Daniel Wallenborg joins me to discuss the record, the origins of the band, making music during the pandemic and the importance of drummers. Closing track: "SUBVERSE" ⁠For all things K L P S including upcoming

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56:35

Episode 75: Knox Chandler (The Psychedelic Furs, Dave...

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2025/05/30

Following four decades playing guitar for numerous acts, from The Psychedelic Furs to Cyndi Lauper, the sound (out today on the newly-founded label Blue Elastic) sees Knox Chandler fully realising his own vision and implementing his sound ribbon technique.We discuss the music as well as the visual component to the sound, Chandler's formative musical experiences, stories from his long and varied career—including how he came to work with Peaches—and how he developed his sound ribbon technique.Thanks

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Episode 74: Etienne Flinn (Tribunal)

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2025/05/27

In Penitence and Ruin (20 Buck Spin) is the second album by Vancouver, British Columbia's gothic-doom quintet Tribunal.Led by bassist/cellist/vocalist Soren Mourne and guitarist/vocalist Etienne Flinn, the contrast of Mourne and Flinn's vocal styles and Mourne's cello give the album a very particular quality—atmospheric, moody and powerful.Flinn joins me to discuss the album, songwriting with Mourne, the practicalities of managing the band's instrumentation on stage and the joy of booking

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Episode 73: Tom "Fountainhead" Geldschläger...

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2025/05/23

Progressive-metal guitarist Tom "Fountainhead" Geldschläger recently released his eponymous "debut" as CHANGELING.An album several years in the making, the music is essentially Fountainhead under a new name—and a sonically intense and enveloping progressive-death-metal experience it is too.Featuring a host of guest musicians and intricate arrangements, the album is out now on Season of Mist.Tom and I discuss the album, his time growing up in post-Communist East Germany, how he got into

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Episode 72:Fabien W. Furter(Death W***e)

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2025/05/20

Fabien W. Furter is the guitarist and vocalist for French extreme-metal three-piece Death W***e. The band recently released their debut, full-length record Blood Washes Everything Away (No Good To Anyone Productions / Duality Records / Specific Recordings / Crypt of Dr. Gore / Hecatombe Records). I first interviewed Fabien back in 2020 for Blessed Altar Zine to talk about his (at the time) main band Wheelfall.Last year, I was thrilled to have Fabian join me on Whatever Comes Next (Episode 19) to

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Episode 71: elie zoé

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2025/05/16

Swiss Indie-rock songwriter elie zoé has been on an evolutionary journey as an artist for more than a decade.In recent times a major transformation led to a significant change in elie's singing and a need to approach music making from a new direction."change my name" is the first single from forthcoming record shifting forms (due for release this October via Humus Records).elie joins me to discuss the latest single, their unique approach to the guitar, relearning how to sing and their thoughts on

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Episode 70: Matt Stikker (Drouth)

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2025/05/13

The Teeth of Time (out this Friday via Eternal Warfare Records) is the latest record by Portland, Oregon extreme metal group Drouth.Guitarist and vocalist Matt Stikker joins me to discuss the making of the record, his artwork and how he balances being a freelance illustrator with making music.Thanks to Austin at Secret Service PRBand photo: Jason DeSomerClosing track: "False Grail"Follow⁠ DrouthBuy ⁠The Teeth of TimeI'm running the Edinburgh Marathon 2025 for on the 25th of May for the Scottish

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Episode 69: The Atrocity Circus

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2025/05/09

Dan Dolby, Thomas Ott and existent/nonexistent share a love of experimental and underground music and noise. Having already collaborated on several occasions (including on their noise/drone project Catafalque), Dolby and Ott created Yellow Crooked Teeth as The Atrocity Circus in 2022. Himself a fan of the debut, e/ne joined Dolby and Ott to create the newly-released follow-up Malpractice—a powerful, enveloping sonic landscape of noise, power electronics and death industrial sounds. All three join me

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Episode 68: Charming Disaster

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2025/05/06

The world of gothic-cabaret-rock duo Charming Disaster is one of magic, mystery and tongue-in-cheek horror. With their latest album, The Double, coming out on the 16th of May Ellia Bisker and Jeff Morris join me to discuss the album, their live shows, Edward Gorey and building a community of kind, curious weirdos. Closing track: "New Moon" For all things Charming Disaster: https://www.charmingdisaster.com/ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thanks

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Episode 67: David Judson Clemmons

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2025/04/29

David Judson Clemmons has been making music since the late 80s, building an impressive body of work (whether under his own name, or with projects like Damn The Machine and Jud). His latest record Everything A War is arguably one of his best, a rousing rock album of passion and hope. On episode 32 of the podcast we looked back through David's career. In this episode we discuss the latest record in detail, David's writing, the recording process with his band and some of his production techniques

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