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PODCAST

It Just Got Real

Hannah Donovan and Cheraé Robinson

Hi! We’re Han & Cheraé, two friends constantly swapping stories on the journey of our careers. As we looked for inspiration, guidance, and community we realized we weren’t reflected anywhere, so we started sharing. Each episode starts with a moment where sh*t got real. We unpack it, ask the questions you rarely do in public, and share our hot takes on what’s happening in the world. We uncover the gems so you can take them into your own lives and work. Subscribe and join the fam!

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24:57

Episode 25: In Limbo

It Just Got Real ·

2020/11/10

Cherae and Han jump into the thing everyone is laser focused on: the US election. Recorded as the results were in the air, the two discuss what this means for America and for themselves. Han also gets pretty personal with her moment - you'll have to tune in to see how.

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36:58

Episode 24: Creative Blocks Aren't A Thing

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2020/10/29

In another live episode from Mexico, Cheraé shares the moment where Han, over the most delicious of Portuguese dinners, blew up the idea of "creative blocks" and got to the nuts and bolts of how creative output (when it's what you do for a living) actually works. The record scratch dives into things white women are doing in 2020, including becoming a new breed of political activist in the burbs (a win, if albeit late) and ascending to the Supreme Court just days before an election (why aren't we

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38:59

Episode 23: Viva Mexico

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2020/10/22

Han and Cheraé take the pod to Mexico and deal with the realness of travel during COVID-19 and what makes something "essential essential". Han chats through the emotions and logistics of the entire decision and Cheraé'srecord scratch reveals that leaving the US doesn't always mean leaving its problematic ways. In culture or what could be called the Big Phat Culture Moment Han and Cherae run the gamut from new music vibes to film to the Pattern app's new UI (or lack thereof). All in all this is the

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39:08

Episode 22: Give It Time To Bake

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2020/10/15

Cheraé's week gets real when she has to hit pause and give herself time to get to leader level vision. Han chimes in with some lessons and cautions around the murky middle of being in the thick of a founder journey at the least celebrated stage. They both share tips for breaking through before jumping into the Record Scratch moment, which per normal includes commentary on Trump and other shenanigans. Rounding out the show we celebrate the Lakers and something in 2020 that actually went right.

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35:53

Episode 21: Many Guns, Many Drawers

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2020/10/08

Han's moment is a bit of a founder's groundhog's day and tackles the idea of focus. Probably the single most repeated advice given to founders, Cheraé and Han tackle whether focus is really the key to the game. You'll have to listen in to see where they land. On the record scratch they chat Trump's COVID-19 diagnosis and Roblox's IPO (which Cheraé is kicking herself for not investing in). In culture they talk the new beauty trend heating up election season and Sango's latest drop.

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53:46

Episode 20: Fire is Better than Failing

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2020/10/01

Cheraé shares one of the hardest parts of being a founder and some pro tips for how to make the pill easier (in the long run). Han chimes in with some tried and true methods and some tangible ways to build better. The record scratch centers on the Breonna Taylor ruling, pulling in some lessons from Germany on dealing with America's ongoing race problem. And, finally Cheraé and Han are joined by a surprise special guest to discuss The Social Dilemma (hint: it's our producer, Sam Fragoso).

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33:30

Episode 19: The Long Game

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2020/09/24

Han reveals a huge product accomplishment that was years in the making and shares the mindset and practice required to have the conviction to tackle the hard things that don't come easily. The record scratch is the one we all felt - the passing of RBG and the subsequent foolery that has commenced in America. In culture Han and Cheraé talk TikTok – with a hot take on the drama surrounding all short form video apps, art on the bank of the LA river, and feeling 17 again (perhaps all at once).

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42:12

Episode 18: Tunnel Vision

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2020/09/17

Cheraé shares the tension between founder ambitions vs. practical life choices. Han chimes in and shares that "Plan B" is not a thing. The two then talk about vision, conviction, and what that all really means - especially for founders trying to adult, have impact, and/or leave a legacy beyond their companies (if this is a thing). The record scratchunfortunatelybrings us back to Trump once again while in culture the two share their love for "I May Destroy You" and Patti Labelle's pies (kind of).

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31:04

Episode 17: Don't Smash the Egg

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2020/09/10

Han's life gets real when she learns just how intense getting a rescue dog can be. She re-evaluates this move, which is proving to be an exercise in patience. That's a muscle we should all be flexing duringCOVID-19, as we inch towards the sort of "normalcy" that existed before.You can't avoid including one Donald Trump moment during the record scratch, but there is also a bit of suspense in Cherae's bike brush with mortality.Finally, in culture, Nigerian artist Tiwa Savage makes her debut on Jimmy

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35:54

Episode 16: Discretion

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2020/09/02

Cheraé reflects on the passing of Chadwick Boseman and his choice to keep his battle with cancer private. Han chimes in and they both reflect on whether sharing your struggle is always the right (or necessary) way forward. Jacob Blake and the NBA strike make this week's record scratch (in what feels like an ongoing one for the US), and Han closes us out with a catchy reggae tune from the Bank of Jamaica lol.

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34:16

Episode 15: You Are the Opportunity

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2020/08/27

Han shares an update on what has been a pretty intense fundraising season with a critical mindset shift that's unlocking her superpowers. We also dive into Kamala Harris securing the VP nomination, and what it means for women, badassery, and the US moving forward.

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35:46

Episode 14: Just Face It

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2020/08/20

Cherae shares an intense moment in her personal life that required a flight and some serious big girl panties. She also meets a fine fellow and realizes the rona pounds must go. Han discovers new music, including some very raunchy hip-hop, and dabbles into her own motivational Spotify lists. Cherae and Han discuss being transient, closing out the show with some thoughts that'll help you face any moment.

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41:14

Episode 13: We Are What We Say

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2020/08/13

Han shares an epiphany moment related to that constant drum of stress any "slightly" ambitious person always feels. While chatting through all the ways stating "I'm stressed out" is not productive, Cheraé and Han both share the sentiment that WAP is actually the reliever of these things. Digging deeper into the culture moment, Han talks radio while Cheraé chats non appropriative culture dabbling. Finally, there's a record scratch that comes with a happy ending.

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35:39

Episode 12: Intuition Is Not A Bad Word

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2020/08/06

Cheraé has a BLACK IS KING moment when she does an impromptu popup for her member community seemingly throwing caution to the wind in an effort to deliver for her audience. Han chimes in with some advice for founder balancing intuitive understanding and a data/process driven approach to building a consumer company. We discuss the ridiculous chatterboxes coming for Queen Megan Thee Stallion (and the ongoing assaulton black women's ability to be soft) and close out with some nods to Beyonce's latest

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33:35

Episode 11: Don't Hoard Your Work

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2020/07/30

Han, a recovering perfectionist, makes a new portfolio website. This is usually an extremely painful task of selecting and sharing the right work. Today is a different story. She shares her tips and tricks on this week's episode. Plus, why your company comms matter, from racist chicken wings to COVID tests.

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34:10

Episode 10: Step Up Your A Game

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2020/07/16

Cheraé gets real about being pushed as a founder and needing to broaden her circle of confidants to get the learnings she needs to take things to the next level. Han shares the realities of getting to done and they both find themselves looking for a really good guide to dating post the rona.

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35:43

Episode 9: Learning How to Launch

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2020/07/09

Han has an "aha" moment and realizes she was doing "launch" all wrong after seeing what success looks like. Boat Flags become the new "hot campaign swag" in the most unfortunate way, Instagram's algorithm is the flipping worst, and Cherae is a latecomer to Drag Race.

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35:45

Episode 8: Into the Fire

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2020/07/02

Cherae talks about getting called out for not being vocal about a major issue in her community, unpacking how trauma and the past can stifle your voice, and what to do about it. Han shares her own experiences with moving past this and also a pretty epic internet moment this week with the Eye Mouth Eye stunt from Twitter. The show closes out with some tips on productivity, a shout out to the See in Black project, and a nod to the new Arca album.

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39:23

Episode 7: The Breaking Point

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2020/06/25

Han has had enough of the rona and shares how balancing it all alone is next to impossible. Cherae shares a seemingly never ending list of record scratch moments and Sherman's Showcase and Teyana Taylor's new album enter the cultural lexicon of the pod #addsomekente.

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34:56

Episode 6: You Can't Starve Your Way To Success

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2020/06/18

Cherae deals with the realities of COVID-19's longer term impact on her company, Han shares insights from the Snap Partner Summit and getting sassy with a journalist on Twitter, and we continue to dig into the world waking up to racial injustice (including how Karen's keep getting it wrong).

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