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It Just Got Real

Hannah Donovan and Cheraé Robinson

Hi! We’re Han & Cheraé, two friends constantly swapping stories on the journey of our careers. As we looked for inspiration, guidance, and community we realized we weren’t reflected anywhere, so we started sharing. Each episode starts with a moment where sh*t got real. We unpack it, ask the questions you rarely do in public, and share our hot takes on what’s happening in the world. We uncover the gems so you can take them into your own lives and work. Subscribe and join the fam!

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59:20

From Funder to Founder

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2024/05/30

What does it mean to design your life? In this episode, Denisha Kuhlor, founder and CEO of Stan, shares her journey of embracing uncertainty, taking risks, and redefining her path. Through introspection and experimentation, she discovers the importance of pausing to reflect on one's true desires and the confidence that comes from learning through triumphs and setbacks.Denisha's story of leaving the comfy world of venture capital and startup banking to start her own company rooted in her wildest

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49:19

Everything Everywhere

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2024/05/06

Shyvonne lands in Bali, and things immediately get Very Real. With various challenges and unexpected situations, Shyvonne shares how she chose to embrace the moment and make the most of it: shifting from what was going wrong to embracing the abundance of life and living each day to the fullest. We talk trusting ourselves, what it means to take a calculated risk, and ultimately – transformative experiences. We also get into the practical and how Shyvonne Does It All by treating her life like a lesson

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56:07

Make What You Want

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2024/04/18

On this episode, Snigdha Sur, founder of The Juggernaut, discusses the decision to raise prices and the challenges faced in a tough funding environment. As a community-driven platform focused on people largely underrepresented in the media space, this was a challenging balancing act. How do you focus on representation while leaving space for critique? How do you invite criticism of yourself while dealing with trolls and negativity? How do you make a business sustainable while trying to make sure

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40:22

Shifting Your Posture

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2024/04/04

In this episode, Cheraé shares a vulnerable moment at a team dinner that could’ve went entirely left. The tension between her current role in venture capital and her previous work building her startup were at a fever pitch and spilled over in a way she did not anticipate. After being gathered by a couple of her closest friends and confidantes, her perspective shifts dramatically and some incredible things start to happen. Han and Cheraé discuss the stories we tell ourselves in work and how they can

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54:27

Creating Answers

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2024/03/14

In this episode, Mallory Contois, Head of Community at Mercury and Founder of The Old Girls Club, shares her journey of navigating the challenges and pressures of being a woman in tech, from raising a $25 million Series A round for a gaming startup to grappling with the immense responsibility and isolation that came with her role as COO. The conversation delves into the themes of vulnerability, resilience, and the creation of a supportive community that empowers women to voice their struggles and

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49:03

Mastering the Pivot

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2024/03/05

From sleeping in gym clothes to the profound impact of spiritual journey’s, this episode with Sugar Living CEO Fatima Choice, is a testament to the resilience required to succeed in the startup world. Her transition from Jetpack to Sugar, a community-enhancing tech platform, illustrates the importance of community and connection in both business and personal growth. This episode not only explores the highs and lows of startup life but also delves into the broader implications of our current societal

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01:01:20

Against All Odds

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2024/02/15

In this conversation, Cat Middleton, General Partner at The Venture Collective, shares a vulnerable moment when she questions her place in venture capital. She discusses her motivation to make a difference and create a more inclusive environment. While charing her unlikely journey to VC, she addresses imposter syndrome, the fear of failure and success, and how she sees the value of authentic connections and humanizing interactions as one of the major keys to the game. From how she assess early-stage

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46:42

The Three Year Insight

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2024/02/01

Let’s talk navigating career transitions! Han shares her post-acquisition story from where we left off in the last season when her company was acquired. We cover fitting into boxes (or not), taking advice (or not), and going from being a generalist to a specialist in a career transition. We also talk about the importance of approaching learning with a growth mindset and “time boxing”. With plenty of practical takeaways for anyone navigating a job shift right now, we’re keeping it real with a

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55:03

Shift Happens

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2024/01/18

Whether intentional or not, shifts are a constant. JZ is a master of the career pivot, and is here to tell us all about it, how she’s (impressively) navigated them to here current role as COO at Charm. But this is It Just Got Real, and so of course, we’re gonna get into it :) We also talk regretful decisions, missed opportunities, the complex experience of being a minority that is often labeled “successful, “unknown” unknowns, affirmative action, and the need for true allyship.

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57:38

1,000 Lives

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2024/01/11

9 lives isn’t even the beginning of what Karina has lived in her impressive career. From the military to banking to tech to coaching and so much more, throughout it all Karina Cares About The Humans. In this show we get into what it really means to be a “leader”? And how do you unleash potential in others as a manager? Karina brings the goods, smashing up our traditional (aka patriarchal) notions of leadership and teaches us how to be a “multiplier”. In true coach form, by the end of this episode

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35:47

Mirth and The Magician

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2024/01/04

If you identify as: “A ______ and an Artist” – or want to, this show is for you. In this (hilarious) episode we talk to Danielle, someone who isn’t only a tech founder in the Silicon Valley, but also a prolific and extremely funny artist. Highly aware of the unique (and sometimes bizarre) culture of the Bay Area, she’s consistently pranking it with art-scepades. Next time you hear about where to buy a sweater for your chilly drone or a toothbrush sharing startup, you’ll know the woman behind it. She

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54:24

Joy as an Act of Resistance

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2023/12/21

With Manushka Magloire. Whether you’re a community builder or appreciate being in community, Manushka's story is one you don’t want to miss. Amidst a loss-of-identity moment, the former Global Director of Social Impact and Community for AFROPUNK takes us through her journey of self-discovery and growth to leaning into her superpowers as a soul-led convened an architect founding The Lay Out and working with For Freedoms. From actual practical tips on soft skills and “network building” (not the BS we

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41:01

AI and the Future We (Don’t) Believe In

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2023/12/14

With Geneviève Patterson. In this episode, we bring on our first (!) guest, Dr. Geneviève Patterson, Han’s co-founder at Trash. Geneviève is an accomplished scientist specializing in computer vision and artificial intelligence. We talk to her about her current (surprising) project and what it’s been like to be on the forefront of inventing a technology that is now hitting every consumer and enterprise in a major way. From the impressive power of AI, the rush towards commercialization fueled by

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47:23

Deciding to End It All

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2023/12/07

We're back for season 2! In today's new episode, Cheraé talks about continuing to be a founder, even when you're no longer running a company. She describes the winding road for Tastemakers Africa, how the pandemic impacted the business, and navigating changes in her identity since then.Learn about how to support the Fearless Fund.

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01:24

"It Just Got Real" Returns!

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2023/11/30

"It Just Got Real" returns next Thursday! Join us for Season 2 of It Just Got Real, a podcast for creative women in business who are carving out their own path in work and life. Join us every Thursday for the realness!Coming soon, wherever you listen to podcasts and now on YouTube.

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44:55

Episode 30: Trash is Treasure

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2020/12/10

The realest moment of the season goes down in the finale - Han announces she's sold her company TRASH to VSCO. The two unpack the ins and outs of getting acquired in the rona before going into a run-down of some of the biggest record scratches and culture moments of an insane 2020.

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34:28

Episode 29: Do What Gets The People Going

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2020/12/03

Cherae realizes she's been so busy with making things sound right that she's stopped following her instincts. Han jumps in and they unpack everything from transparency, to the creative process, to just putting shit out there. In culture we discover Colors on YouTube and new music and we even make our way to discussing Mike Tyson now on Triller (bbm confused face).

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31:12

Episode 28: Swapping Out Your OS

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2020/11/27

Cherae realizes she needs more than a "work/life balance break" and unpacks what it's like to reprogram the way you get things done. Han chimes in with some thoughts on her own shifts before getting real about the state of COVID-19 in Los Angeles and what's really going on with pandemic Thanksgiving gatherings. The two close it out with Cherae stepping into the new millenium and actually using Spotify to share new music from Amaraee and Odunsi the Engine.

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30:46

Episode 27: You Don't Have to Like It

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2020/11/19

Han gets asked a question that makes her confront the realities of building, andthe not so glamorous parts of getting the job done. Cheraé chimes in with some thoughts on where our need for "veneer" comes from and the two of them have some record scratch moments from everyday life. In culture Han drops two new tracks (by other people, she has not taken up being a rapper) before wrapping up the show with some takeaways that should help you in your life as an entrepreneur.

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35:58

Episode 26: Mama I Made It

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2020/11/12

With election results in - Han and Cherae dive into what this all means and are generally elated about the outcomes. In the real moment, Cherae chats moving into a new apartment in Brooklyn, what that means for her state of mind as a founder,and the tradeoffs female founders make unnecessarily in theirjourneys. In culture Soulection shows up again as does YG's FDT hit rising to the top of the charts.

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