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Otherppl with Brad Listi

Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly books and culture podcast featuring in-depth conversations with today"s leading authors. Literature, screenwriting, the creative process, pop culture, and more. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on Bluesky and Instagram.

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987. Lydi Conklin

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/26

Lydi Conklin is the author of the debut novel Songs of No Provenance, available from Catapult Press. It was longlisted for the Center for Fiction First Novel Prize. Conklin has received a Stegner Fellowship, four Pushcart Prizes, a Rona Jaffe Foundation Writers’ Award, a Creative Writing Fulbright in Poland, and fellowships from MacDowell, Yaddo, Hedgebrook, and elsewhere. Their fiction has appeared in The Paris Review, One Story, and American Short Fiction. They have drawn cartoons for The New

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986. Donald Berger

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/24

Donald Berger is the author of the poetry collection The Rose of Maine, available from SurVision Books. Winner of the 2024 James Tate International Poetry Prize. Berger's other books include Pizza Necklace, The Long Time—winner of the Poetry Prize of the German Academy for Language and Poetry—and Quality Hill (Lost Roads Publishers). His poems have appeared in journals in the U.S., Europe and Asia, and he currently teaches at Johns Hopkins University. *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad

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Billionaire Death Party

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/21

Volume 56 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Mira's hummingbird death angel friend...a letter from a listener who got run over by a car...Angry Adam returns (we forgot to play his audio last week)...Lana del Rey vs. Ethel Cain...billionaires in submersibles getting coffee and going to visit the disintegrated remains of peasants at the bottom of the ocean...in a shocking turn, Brad discovers an easter egg in Taylor Swift's new album...Katy Perry's continued run of shockingly bad luck...and

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985. Chelsea Bieker

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/19

Chelsea Bieker is the author of the novel Madwoman, now available in trade paperback wherever books are sold. Bieker's first novel, Godshot, was longlisted for The Center For Fiction’s First Novel Prize and her story collection, Heartbroke won the California Book Award. She is the co-creator of The Fountain, writes about creative practice at her substack, Make Up Your Life, and is at work on a new novel. *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth

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A Conversation with a Witch: Amanda Yates Garcia on...

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/17

A special Sunday episode featuring Amanda Yates Garcia, also known as The Oracle of Los Angeles. Amanda is a writer, socially engaged artist, public witch, and doctoral student in the department of World Arts Cultures and Dance at UCLA. Her first book, Initiated, received a starred review from Kirkus and Publisher's Weekly and has been translated into six languages. Amanda hosts the Between the Worlds podcast, which looks at the Western Mystery traditions through a mythopoetic lens and has been

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Our Lives Are Brilliant, Our Love is Pure

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/14

Volume 55 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad's new company, DeepDive, launches, he is now a startup founder...Brad takes his family to see The Naked Gun ...Mira sees Weapons (and gets Chappell Roan tickets)....Brad's strangely intimate knowledge of the James Blount phenomenon...T-Swift announces a new era...the Anna Delvey Brooklyn bunnicide...Katy Perry's masterclass in public relations disasters...and more... *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring

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984. Michael Clune

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/12

Michael Clune is the author of the debut novel Pan, available from Penguin Press. It is the official August 2025 pick of the Otherppl Book Club. Clune is the critically acclaimed author of the memoirs Gamelife and White Out: The Secret Life of Heroin. His academic books include A Defense of Judgment, Writing Against Time, and American Literature and the Free Market. Clune’s work has appeared in venues ranging from Harper’s Magazine, Salon, and Granta to Behavioral and Brain Sciences, PMLA, and The

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983. Jane Borden

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/10

Jane Borden is the author of Cults Like Us: Why Doomsday Thinking Drives America, available from Atria. Jane's work as a culture journalist has been featured in Vanity Fair, The New York Times Magazine, The Washington Post, and other publications. She lives in Los Angeles. *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple

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Mira is Hallucinating Bugs

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/07

Volume 54 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad wanders the hills, contemplating mountain lions and death...Mira's ant infestation...Mira in retrograde...Sydney Sweeney's iron domes...Pam and Liam 4ever...Rod Stewart's A.I. necrophilia...Denise Richards' ex euthanizes her dog??...and more... *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple

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982. Shelby Hinte

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/05

Shelby Hinte is the author of the debut novel Howling Women, available from Leftover Books. Hinte is the Senior Editor of Write or Die Magazine and teaches writing classes at the Writing Salon and WritingWorkshops.com. She has been a reader and intern for various independent presses and magazines including ZYZZYVA, Split/Lip Press, and No Contact. Her writing has been featured in BOMB Magazine, The Rumpus, ZYZZYVA, Hobart, SmokeLong Quarterly, and elsewhere. Howling Women is her first novel. She

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981. Claire Jia

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/08/03

Claire Jia is the author of the debut novel Wanting, available from Tin House. It was the official July pick of the Otherppl Book Club. Jia is a writer from Illinois. Her work has appeared in The New York TimesModern Love column, The Rumpus, Reductress, and more. She writes for television and video games, including the 2024 Peabody Award-winning We Are OFK. She lives in Los Angeles with her friends. *** ⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews

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90:59

It's Hot Down Here, Brother

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/31

Volume 53 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad approaches 50...the Tesla Diner attacks a woman...the obsession with tall...the triumph of Billy Joel, short king and musical savant...Sydney Sweeney's eugenics commercial...the roasting of Hulk Hogan, an American embarrassment...the Justin Trudeau / Fidel Castro conspiracy theory...and more... *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are

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980. Hannah Pittard

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/29

Hannah Pittard is the author of the novel If You Love It, Let It Kill You, available from Henry Holt & Co.Pittard is the author of the novels Listen to Me and The Fates Will Find Their Way. She is a winner of the Amanda Davis Highwire Fiction Award, a MacDowell fellow, and the Guy M. Davenport Professor in English at the University of Kentucky. She lives with her boyfriend and stepdaughter in Lexington. Much of her family lives nearby. *** ⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly

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979. Ken Baumann

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/27

Ken Baumann is the author of the novella The Christian: A Comedy. Baumann is the author of seven novels and three works of nonfiction. After working as an actor in film and TV, running the publishing company Sator Press, studying canonical texts at St. John's College, and playing competitive Magic: The Gathering, he now lives and works as a writer and coach in Santa Fe, New Mexico. *** ⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's

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52 Weeks of Brad & Mira

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/24

Volume 52 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...a year of podcasting...Mira's longest run of continuous employment...Mira vs. diarrhea...the Tesla Diner opens in Hollywood...Mira does hot yoga to relieve PTSD...Brad watches the new Billy Joel documentary...the '70s smelled bad...Gwyneth talks about technically excellent tea-bagging...Ozzie RIP....Trump and Epstein's "wonderful secrets"...and more... *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with

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978. Megan Abbott

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/22

Megan Abbott is the author of the novel El Dorado Drive, available from G. P. Putnam's Sons. Abbott is the Edgar award-winning author of eleven crime novels, including You Will Know Me, Give Me Your Hand and the New York Times bestseller The Turnout, the winner of the Los Angeles Times Book Prize. She received her Ph.D. in English and American literature from New York University and her writing has appeared in the New York Times, the Guardian, the Paris Review and the Wall Street Journal. Dare

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Exploring Hybrid Literary Forms

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/20

A new Craftwork conversation with Matthew Clark Davison and Alice LaPlante, co-authors of The Lab: Experiments in Writing Across Genre, available from W. W. Norton & Col.Davison is the author of Doubting Thomas and founder of The Lab, a generative writing workshop. He is emeritus faculty in Creative Writing at San Francisco State University, and lives in Oakland, California with his husband. LaPlante is the author of the craft book The Making of a Story and the New York Times best-selling novel

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94:44

Slap Me and Call Me Mommy

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/17

Volume 51 of Brad & Mira For the Culture...Brad's life as a CEO...both Brad and Mira are experiencing burnout and Mira has been burned out since age 4...the Minecraft Movie's pro-child-labor agenda...Brad reviews the new Superman movie...celebrities and their obsession with yacht vacations (and Wimbledon)...Diddy reads self-help books...Elon Musk creates an AI Hotwire for his incel army....Britney adopts a baby girl????....and more...*** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast

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977. Kashana Cauley

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/15

Kashana Cauley is the author of the novel The Payback, available from Atria Books.Cauley's other novel is calledThe Survivalists, which was named a best book of 2023 by the BBC, Today, Vogue, and more. She is also a television writer, having worked on The Great North, Pod Save America on HBO, and The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Her writing has also appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, Esquire, Rolling Stone, The New Yorker, and more. *** Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly

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Special Episode: DeepDive Sneak Preview!

Otherppl with Brad Listi ·

2025/07/13

In today's episode, I'm sharing an exclusive sneak preview of How to Write a Novel, the debut audio course from my new company, DeepDive, which will be launching soon. How to Write a Novel is hosted by yours truly, and it features more than 50 hours of insight and instruction from dozens of today's leading contemporary authors, including Emily St. John Mandel, Melissa Broder, Stephen Graham Jones, V. V. Ganeshananthan, Ingrid Rojas Contreras, Porochista Khakpour, Claudia Dey, Gina Frangello, Tod

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