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Creative Banter

Welcome to Creative Banter, a creative and philosophy focused podcast where anything goes. I’m your host, Cody Schultz. Joining me is the one and only Ben Horne. Each week, we sit down to discuss something to do with photography, whether it be our feelings toward the film versus digital dichotomy or how our creativity is affected by our individual photographic approaches. Regardless what it is we discuss, it is sure to be thought-provoking and entertaining. Host: Cody Schultz Co-Host: Ben

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106 - Perfection is Subjective

Creative Banter ·

2024/07/18

Reading Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey brings a few topics to the forefront this week, namely my thoughts around a winter trip to Utah and how I write. Meanwhile, watching The Bear makes me wonder, at what point does one’s obsession over craft become too much?LINKSGarrett HessDesert Solitaire by Edward AbbeyGuy TalThe Monkey Wrench Gang by Edward AbbeyThe Bear (Hulu)Andreas Resch SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:55:53

105 - Little Grumbles

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2024/07/11

As I only just begin seriously training Emmie, Ben has Oliver trained almost exactly how he would like, though the barking and little grumbles at backyard rats could be better. This week, in between conversations around random life events, Ben and I discuss the obsession over gear and whether it should feel special in your hand.LINKSDenial of Death by Ernest BeckerThe Trouble with Being Born by E. M. CioranSo Said The River by Colleen MiniukBenjamin Everett SUPPORT THE SHOW Join

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00:45:16

104 - Flip Flop Killer

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2024/07/04

What goes on inside the mind of a puppy, especially one with a high prey drive? Does Oliver fear for his life, when he sees Ben hold a flip-flop in his hand? These are the real questions we are facing in this week’s episode.LINKSDodge & Burn DigestNick Carver Printing VideosAndalucia Zine by Nick CarverBen’s Personal PatreonPamela Sherlock SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:49:40

103 - A Desire to Teach

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2024/06/27

While away in the Palouse, a lot happened. There was the challenge of seeing subjects differently, of using a telephoto lens for the first time, and debates on color versus monochrome photography. More importantly, there came a conclusion that teaching, in one form or another, needs to be a part of Cody’s life.LINKSGF 500mm 5.6John PedersenJohn BarclayMichael E. GordonChuck KimmerleGarrett Hess SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:50:32

102 - Drugged Up Puppies

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2024/06/20

Back from a trip to Vermont, Ben and Cody discuss dew claws, engagement, house prices, and sore feet from barefoot backpacking. There is also a bit of talk around Cody’s trip to the Palouse.LINKSBrenda PetrellaVivo BarefootGF 500mm 5.6Blake Farrell SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Discussion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Save 10% on your Nature Photographers Network membership Use offer code HORNE10

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00:54:02

101 - Weather of Window

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2024/06/06

Ben and Cody go head-to-head in this week’s conversation as they discuss how one may see but not perceive, if there are any benefits to deadlines, and how we can unclip the digital leash. Okay, maybe this isn’t as much of a battle of the minds as it could have been. I apologize for the dramatization.LINKSThe Mindful Photographer - Guy TalDodge & Burn iA WriterAlberto Rodriguez-GarciaBrenda PetrellaJoshua K. JacksonSean Tucker x Joshua K. Jackson SUPPORT THE SHOW Join

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01:23:18

100 - A Casual Conversation w. Andrew Baruffi

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2024/05/30

After almost a year of attempting to get him on the show, I finally convinced Andrew Baruffi that it may be worthwhile. We had a nice, casual conversation around mental health, our influences, photography book creation, and more. LINKSHeal. Blemished CopiesThe Great Wilderness by Alex NailBen LockettMemento Mori collection Kyle McDougall — Environmental Portraits with the Mitakon 65mm 1.4 SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:48:57

99 - It's All Interconnected

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2024/05/16

Despite being ninety-nine episodes in, neither Ben nor I have quite figured out what we are doing with this podcast. That’s perfectly okay with us, as we continue to enjoy the various conversations had each week, as well as the connections we have made with listeners. Our artist of the week is Anna Morgan.LINKSTim Ferriss on Modern Wisdom Kenny Thatcher Do Nothing by Celeste Headlee Dodge & Burn Digest Anna Morgan Anna’s NPN AMA SUPPORT THE SHOW Join

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00:53:25

98 - Puppies 4 Sale

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2024/05/09

Showcasing the dichotomies between life and death is something I am focusing on as I continue to photograph various found bones and skulls. Meanwhile, Ben thinks about new skates and society’s obsession with buying cheap items that are thrown out rather quickly. Our artist of the week is Eugene Theron. LINKSDavid KinghamJohn PedersenWe Talk Photo PodcastEugene Theron SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:46:12

97 - Plant-Based Ben

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2024/05/02

Was it a mistake to turn down a temporary position with decent pay, despite poor gut feelings? Is this dream of mine something that can become a reality, or should I take the money and be like everyone else? Will Ben continue on this plant-based journey? Our artist of the week is Alex Jones.LINKSThe Interior Landscape - Guy TalAlex Jones SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Discussion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Save 10% on your Nature

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00:53:12

96 - A Necessary Change

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2024/04/25

In the age of podcasts and streaming services, are introductions to what we watch truly necessary? Or am I wasting my breath by summarizing what you’re about to listen to anyway? Our artist of the week is Mary Brisson. LINKSThe BearFalloutMarc Maron Interviews Steven YeunMarc Maron Interviews Andrew GarfieldYosemite: Sanctuary in Stone by William NeillMary Brisson SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Discussion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Save 10% on

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00:48:45

95 - Feelings of Uncertainty

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2024/04/18

Pollen is at the front door again, ready to knock me down and stuff me up. That won’t stop Ben and I from discussing the 2024 solar eclipse or the idea that we should give our photographs more time to grow on us, much like we do with redesigned vehicles. We also talk about my recent pursuit of a mentor, to better help me grow as both a photographer and a writer — and, perhaps, as an individual. Our artist of the week is Kenny Thatcher. LINKSCraig ModWesley VerhoeveChuck KimmerleColleen MiniukKenny

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00:49:13

94 - Pulling Threads

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2024/04/11

As Ben celebrates four years as a full-time landscape photographer, we discuss the small changes in life that can make a large difference. We pull threads as we contemplate how careers will shift with the introduction of AI, and we ponder the effects of immediate gratification on what tasks we choose to focus upon. Our artist of the week is Sho Hoshino.LINKSSho Hoshino SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Discussion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Save 10% on

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00:42:52

93 - Angry White Man

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2024/04/04

The thread which weaves our conversation together this week, is our desire for connecting more deeply with nature. From planes powered by humans to barefoot hiking boots, Ben and I continue to consider how we may better change our lives to be more natural. Further, I contemplate whether recent events are some sort of sign that the path I’m currently taking, is the correct one. Our artist of the week is Brett Dennen.LINKSPhysical 100Lego MastersNLPABarefoot ShoesBrett Dennen SUPPORT THE SHOW Join

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00:45:59

92 - Knowing When The Story Ends

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2024/03/28

Ben’s recent completion of his long awaited century ride leads to a discussion primarily around plant-based eating habits. If you’ve ever wondered what Ben eats in a day, your answer awaits. Though, I wouldn’t be too excited — he eats the same breakfast and lunch every day. In this episode, we also touch on the idea of knowing when a story should end, brought on by a movie I watched the other night. And perhaps most important is our featured photographer: Todd Dominey. LINKSTwin StudySpacemanTim

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00:45:43

91 - Creating Beauty from Hate

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2024/03/21

Once again off social media, my mind floats toward the idea of slow productivity, of slow growth - something which has been discussed ad nauseam between Ben and I, but its importance in this world of hustle and bustle cannot be overstated. This brings us to questions such as whether legacy even exists in the modern era, and if the supposedly endless options for making money, are harming rather than helping us. LINKSSlow Productivity by Cal Newport Discovery of Place: Colorado Jess Hobbs SUPPORT THE

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00:54:13

90 - Tap Dancing in Death Valley

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2024/03/14

My recent interview with Talking Landscape Photography has me thinking about the ways we organize our photographs for presentation, particularly the debate between online galleries and the recent trend of free eBooks. This is especially pertinent as I work to revamp my website, as well as edit through the year-long backlog that has built up. And now that I have the freedom of digital with a system I am quite enjoying, the likelihood of my creating work more frequently has only gone up. An

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00:47:49

89 - Flipping Burgers

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2024/03/07

Though it didn’t seem to go all that well, I finally had a job interview the other day. The last position I interviewed for was in October, for an outdoor retail company, and previous to that was an interview in July for a teaching position. So, maybe I was a bit rusty; or maybe they knew immediately that I wasn’t the right fit. Either way, after a bit of ranting off the air, Ben and I discuss what this means and what my plans are moving forward.LINKSMike FinkFuji 65:24X100VI SUPPORT THE SHOW Join

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00:47:22

88 - Glistening Mud

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2024/02/29

Ben has returned from his most recent trip to Death Valley, where he experienced a slight existential crisis while photographing glistening mud. This leads to a conversation around anxiety and film photography, as well as the veil of perfection with digital cameras. Once again, I am attempting to replace my large format film kit with digital, this time with the Fuji GFX50s. Will it actually work? I - along with many others - have my doubts. But perhaps there’s something different about this one…

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00:45:26

87 - Slow Gross

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2024/02/22

For the longest time, people have realized there is a certain power to such simple acts as walking, especially when it comes to thought generation. Of course, this doesn’t mean all the ideas we come up with while walking are going to be good ones. What is more important though, is ensuring we maintain a sense of intentionality behind everything we do, whether it’s being on social media or creating a far-too-stringent daily schedule. Most of this episode revolves around mindset and slow growth, two

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