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Creative Banter

Welcome to Creative Banter, a creative and philosophy focused podcast where anything goes. I’m your host, Cody Schultz. Joining me is the one and only Ben Horne. Each week, we sit down to discuss something to do with photography, whether it be our feelings toward the film versus digital dichotomy or how our creativity is affected by our individual photographic approaches. Regardless what it is we discuss, it is sure to be thought-provoking and entertaining. Host: Cody Schultz Co-Host: Ben

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126 - End of an Era?

Creative Banter ·

2025/03/27

With the start of spring, questions abound. In this episode, we discuss a bit about gardening and native plants, as well as the challenges of printing your photographs, and the navigation of the future ahead.LINKSCanon Pro-1000Brian LackeyPortrait of a Photographer — OnLandscapeJoel TruckenbrodSUPPORT THE SHOWJoin Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join

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00:43:31

125 - Embrace the Obscurity

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2025/03/25

At what point do we allow ourselves to give up on our dreams? When do we declare “enough is enough” and throw in the towel? We start our conversation off with thoughts along these lines, as I continue to contemplate the results of my recent trip, as well as whether the photographs I walked away with, are even worth sharing.LINKSDeath Valley GermansTyndell Photo CasesCaroline ForsterSUPPORT THE SHOWJoin

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00:49:32

124 - Felt Like Home

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2025/03/21

Now that I am back from my two-week trip to Japan, Ben and I focus on what I observed, photographed, and learned. In truth, I am still grappling with the trip as a whole, uncertain whether I did right by the new country and various experiences. I question if my expectations led me astray, as well as whether I came away with anything worthwhile.LINKSEric BennettSho HoshinoYokota ShinjiMark DavisSacred Lands PrintsChuck KimmerleAlison PollackSUPPORT THE SHOWJoin

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00:47:42

123 - Rainbow Tutu

Creative Banter ·

2025/02/20

In this conversation, Cody and Ben discuss various topics ranging from personal experiences with jury duty to travel plans, particularly focusing on Cody's upcoming trip to Japan. They delve into the preparations for the trip, including gear essentials, weather expectations, and the cultural immersion that awaits. The conversation also touches on the relaunch of Cody's newsletter, managing anxiety related to travel, and budgeting for international trips. Additionally, they highlight the

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00:42:11

122 - Fumbling Through Life

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2025/02/13

At what point does having access to cellular service, or the internet, while out in the wilderness, shift from being a safety feature to being a crutch in terms of experience? How does our access to information — and, therefore, misinformation — affect our ability to think critically? Why do we tend to fall into traps of impostor syndrome, despite knowing better? If only Ben and I had the answers to these questions…LINKSCraig ModMark DavisBryan SchutmaatMisaki NagaoAlone Atop Mt. Fuji - A Pop-Up

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00:48:37

121 - Buttering A Sasquatch

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2025/01/30

With Ben back from his trip to Kaua’i, he brings along various thoughts around people, perceptions of paradise, and the politicization of environmental disasters. We also discuss culture shock and pop-up newsletters as I continue preparations for Japan. LINKSWillem VerbeekIbarionex Perello’s GoFundMeThe Candid Frame PodcastMarcus UbungenMarcus’s GoFundMeAlone Atop Mt. Fuji - A Pop-Up NewsletterChris Cummins SUPPORT THE SHOW Join

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00:48:03

120 - A Multi-Layered Cake

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2025/01/23

Sometimes, a bit of a break from tradition is necessary. Other times, the break is caused by overthinking and poor communication. Either way, we’re catching up this episode to discuss a variety of topics, which somehow fit together, in a loose fashion you should all be used to by now.LINKSSchwinn IC4Bodycraft Elite Ultimate HomegymMark DavisBrian LackeySho HoshinoStu Thomson SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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01:21:59

119 - A Slow Descent into Madness w. Nick Carver

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2025/01/16

It’s been over a year since Nick Carver and Cody Schultz sat down to discuss creativity at large. Life has a tendency of slipping by like that.LINKSNick CarverCreative Banter Episode 57Cal NewportDatsun 240Z RestorationEpic SpacemanSecret Invasions Intro ControversyThe War of Art by Steven Pressfield How to Think like a Roman Emperor by Donald J. RobertsonSimon Sarris SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:40:35

118 - Scatterbrain Stuff

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2025/01/03

Originally recorded on the 29th of November, 2024. In this episode, Ben and Cody discuss the different ways in which photographers create and send newsletters, as well as the ongoing prioritization of portfolio eBooks as a way to control how your photography is shown. Our featured photographer this week is Nate Merz.LINKSSarah MarinoCody’s NewsletterDavid KinghamBrian LackeyNate MerzLPW Discord SUPPORT THE SHOW Join

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00:53:01

117 - Peanut Butter Conundrum

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2024/11/28

First and foremost, Ben and I are requesting your feedback on what should be done with the Patreon account in the new year. Feeling as though we aren’t doing as much with it as we would like, we offer forth a few ideas, but we’d appreciate hearing from you, as well. In the meantime, we discuss the selfish nature of humanity, sparked by an epiphany Ben has while in the peanut butter aisle of Target. We also talk about the difficulty of making print portfolios, especially when the box sets are custom

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00:57:42

116 - Red Light, Green Light

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2024/11/22

The great Edward Abbey acts as our quasi-guide as Ben and I discuss overpopulation and ticketing systems within the national parks, sparked by his recent trip to The Wave and my trip to Yellowstone back in September. We talk about the environmental and ethical concerns of running a workshop in lesser-known areas, as well as the idea of sacrificing more popular natural areas in the hopes of protecting others. LINKSMarty QuinnTony SantosJay TayagVivo BarefootZen and the Art of Motorcycle

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00:45:48

115 - Cyborg Eye

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2024/11/14

Not long after arriving home from his fall trip to Zion, Ben is headed back that way, passing through as he heads to North Coyote Buttes (The Wave). We discuss a bit about what this means for his previously-stated plans of beginning his year in the fall, as well as his expectations for the trip overall.LINKSAndrew BaruffiMarty QuinnEverett RuessManuel MorealeAntonio Carter SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:51:09

114 - A Change in Process

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2024/11/07

As Ben and I discuss our recent fall trips, we find ourselves settling into new routines, leading to revelations regarding how to proceed through not only the rest of this year but, also, 2025. We talk about how our bodies and minds are affected by long car rides (even if we don’t recognize the correlation), and how this ultimately affects our creativity and wellbeing. Along these same lines, we speak on the importance of sustainable processes in our creative lives.LINKSBrenda PetrellaJoel

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00:49:33

113 - Finding My Footing

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2024/10/24

No matter how hard we try, lately it feels like every episode is about Ben and I catching up, unable to maintain our usual schedule. Most of this, recently, has had to do with my trip to Yellowstone and then starting a new job, which just so happened to overlap with a recent camping trip Ben took with his wife and Oliver the dog. Perhaps someday we will find our footing, once again, but until then…LINKSNature Vision MagazineDodge & Burn DigestOnLandscapeAlberto Rodriguez-Garcia SUPPORT THE

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00:56:43

112 - Runaway Dog

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2024/10/17

As the season shifts toward autumn, so, too, does the light, leading Ben to ponder whether everyone notices such subtle changes or if it is only artists, those who may be more visually attuned to light. Despite Ben’s ability to see these slight alterations over time, he is not immune to making mistakes, overlooking what others may not have, as put on display when speaking on a recent print order. Then there’s my situation with Emmie the pup, whose recall needs much more work, lest we desire more

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00:52:25

111 - The Fear of Fear w. Alister Benn

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2024/09/19

Alister Benn sits down with Cody this week to discuss mental health, insecurity, and the effect labels have on both your personal and creative life. We talk about embracing your fears, redefining how we perceive rewards and time itself, as well as the over-use of the term mindfulness. This is just the beginning of what I hope will be a reoccurring conversation, as I firmly believe in being open regarding mental health in the creative community, in particular.LINKSAlister BennSean TuckerChuck

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00:47:30

110 - You Can't Whistle While Sad

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2024/09/12

A bit deeper of a conversation this week, at least for the majority of the episode, as we look at the overarching question, Who am I? This is a question which, despite seeming simple at face-value, drives a lot of what we do in life, even if we don’t immediately recognize it. Our photographer of the week is Matt Redfern.LINKSDeliverance Manuel MorealeTim ParkinBen’s ZineTo Photograph is to Learn How to DieMatt Redfern SUPPORT THE SHOW Join

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00:42:02

109 - Humidity and Depression

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2024/09/05

A few have been asking what caused the lapse of episodes, why we had an unannounced (and, frankly, unplanned for) two-week break. I’m taking this episode to address that question, as well as provide a bit of insight into where my mind’s been the past few months. LINKSDavid Kingham Nature Vision Magazine Ben Horne’s 2024 Print Portfolio Landscape Photographers Worldwide Discord Beth Buelow SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:43:14

108 - Body Battery

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2024/08/29

Despite going back and forth, I have finally committed to joining David Kingham and Jennifer Renwick in Yellowstone this September, on top of heading to Acadia for a week in October. This means I’ll need to stock up on cold weather camping equipment, but luckily, there appears to be something on the horizon that will help with that.LINKSExploring Exposure WorkshopsAlex NoriegaCindy Lee Christensen SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join

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00:52:33

107 - Ghost Cat

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2024/08/22

It’s been a minute, and we’ve got a bit of catching up to do, so let’s go back to July 25 and talk about ghost cats, visits to the emergency room, and the interactions between Emmie the dog and deer.LINKSSalomon BootsAlex NoriegaCanon Pro-1000 PrinterFine Art Prints by Cody SchultzLee Nordbye SUPPORT THE SHOW Join Our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Discussion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Save 10% on your Nature Photographers

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