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Scaling DevTools

We investigate what it takes to grow developer tools and AI DevTools. Topics include developer marketing, DevRel, developer advocacy and developer experience. Featuring founders and key people from the likes of Vercel, ElevenLabs and OpenAI. Scaling DevTools is sponsored by WorkOS.

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44:42

Matt Palmer on Replit's speedrun to $100M ARR

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/08/14

Matt Palmer from Replit shares how the company scaled to $100M in ARR from ~$10M in under a year. We talk about the importance of video for teaching the non-linear process of working with AI, the challenge of rewriting documentation for a broader audience using the Diátaxis framework, and how they support a diverse community of users navigating this new AI-driven development landscape.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS

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37:51

Logan Kilpatrick from Google DeepMind: Building for...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/08/08

Logan Kilpatrick shares how DeepMind's organizational changes helped their resurgance in AI. What needs to happen to reach 100m developers. And why the next six months are more exciting than ever.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:Google DeepMind Logan Kilpatrick Logan Kilpatrick podcast NotebookLM Gemini CLI Veo

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43:02

Sam Lambert, CEO of PlanetScale: dropping the free...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/07/31

Sam Lambert is the CEO of PlanetScale - a cloud database provider.Sam shares:- Why dropping the free tier was one of PlanetScale's best decisions. But is not for every startup.- People solving serious problems appreciate serious content and if you can create meaningful content, that's a big advantage.- CEOs should be transparent and collaborative but assertive. Don't let your company die while enacting someone else's decision - Express hard-to-convey-benefits via your customers’

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47:16

Sam Bhagwat from Mastra: the Gatsby founder building...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/07/24

Sam Bhagwat is the CEO of Mastra - a typescript AI agents framework. Sam is also the cofounder of Gatsby, the popular React framework that was acquired by Netlfiy. Sam shares what he learned building Gatsby and how they're applying those lessons to Mastra. Why they're building in TypeScript, not Python. Why 20% of their users are in Japan. And why they're distributing 1,500 physical books per week on AI agents. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to

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52:14

I sold my DevTool. ft Paul Anthony Williams from ittybit

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/07/19

This is the first time I'm turning the mic around. This is the story of StreamPot. A DevTool I launched about a year ago.It was just acquired by ittybit so I thought I'd bring ittybit's founder Paul on to basically interview me about what went right and what went wrong.Hopefully you enjoy learning a bit more about the guy usually asking the questions.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise

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42:47

Paul Copplestone, CEO of Supabase - don't kill your...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/07/18

Paul Copplestone is the CEO of Supabase, the Postgres development platform. He talks about the discipline needed to cross the enterprise chasm without isolating your original community. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:- Paul's LinkedIn - Paul's X - Paul's website- Supabase - Enterprise Sales vs Product-led Growth - Friction logs - Ant

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42:32

Quinn Favret from Tavus: AI video API that saved our...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/07/14

Quinn Favret is the founder of Tavus. They do AI video research and products. They saved a Scaling DevTools episodes with their lipsync feature. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. https://workos.com/Links:- Tavus - Tavus lipsync API - Quinn Favret - Scaling DevTools episode saved by Tavus

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50:20

Andrew Filev, founder of Zencoder: AI Software...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/07/08

Andrew Filev is the founder of Zencoder. Zencoder is building AI coding agents. In this episode, we explore the evolution from simple code completion AI to more sophisticated software engineering agents. While tools like GitHub Copilot revolutionized code suggestions, the next frontier involves AI agents that can handle complex engineering tasks and collaborate with each other through emerging protocols.The discussion dives into agent-to-agent protocols, which enable AI systems to work

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35:54

Wordware founders, Filip Kozera and Robert Chandler -...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/06/27

In this episode we talk about Wordware, programming with LLMs, and what it now means to be a developer. Robert and Filip explain how they're building tools that let non-engineers create AI workflows, why the definition of 'developer' is changing in the AI era, and their vision for background agents that automate your work while you focus on creative tasks.Links:- Wordware - Wordware Sauna Waitlist - Wordware is hiring - Filip Kozera - Robert Chandler This episode is brought to you by

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57:21

Tony Holdstock-Brown, CEO of Inngest: orchestration,...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/06/19

Tony Holdstock-Brown is the CEO and founder of Inngest, a tool to run AI and backend workflows at scale.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:- Inngest - Tony's (inactive) LinkedIn - Traction book Note: the studio lost video footage about 20 minutes in. Sorry about that. Audio is fine though.

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66:48

Shipping 22 products to find the true product - Utpal...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/06/17

Utpal Nadiger is the cofounder of Digger.dev. Digger built a popular open source IaC orchestration tool. Their new product Infrabase is an AI DevOps agent that scans IaC code in your pull requests.We talk about SF, resiliency and pivoting.Links:Utpal Digger Tavus (lipsync)This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Why/how we lipsynced: The (amazing)

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47:37

Steve Ruiz, founder of tldraw - taste, creativity and...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/06/07

Steve Ruiz is the founder of tldraw - a whiteboard SDK / infinite canvas SDK. We talk creativity, taste and obsession. And marketing to developers.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:Steve Ruiztldraw

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50:48

Luke Harries from ElevenLabs - Maximize your launches

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/05/29

Luke Harries leads growth at ElevenLabs. Eleven Labs builds incredible AI voice models. Luke dives into why launches matter so much, the origin story of ElevenLabs and why a hackathon can change your life.Links:Luke Harries ElevenLabs This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. P.s. I used Eleven Labs without any edits for the transcript/subtitles.

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48:48

ChatGPT didn't kill SEO - Elston Baretto, founder of...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/05/23

Elston Baretto is the founder of Tiiny.host - the simplest place to put your work online. In this episode we talk about how Elston has been able to grow Tiiny to 70,000+ sign ups per month with content marketing. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:- Tiiny.host - Elston Baretto - Ramen Club - Charlie Ward - Sabba - Veed

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42:40

Eric from Trigger.dev - iterating to 50% MoM growth

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/05/15

Eric Allam is the cofounder of Trigger.dev. Trigger gives you open source background jobs. We talk about how Trigger iterated different versions until landing on something developers really want. And now the growth is crazy. And also, I use Trigger and it's genuinely a great product.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:Eric

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43:52

Kyle Galbraith from Depot: how they hit $1M+ ARR with...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/05/08

Kyle is the cofounder of Depot. Depot accelerates your Docker image builds and GitHub Actions workflows. Kyle shares how Depot were able to grow to $1M ARR and beyond with a very lean team.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:Depot Kyle Galbraith

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51:36

DevTools Marketing with Jason Lengstorf

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/05/02

This episode is a deep dive into DevTools marketing with Jason Lengstorf, founder of CodeTV.Links:Jason on XCodeTVJason's YouTubeThis episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.

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50:29

Sunil Pai on AI agents, Cloudflare and React

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/04/24

This episode is with Sunil Pai. He works at Cloudflare after his startup PartyKit was acquired. Previously he was on the React core team at Meta.He's a great guy. And obsessed with AI agents. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:- Sunil Pai on X - Sunil Pai's site- Building agents with Cloudflare - PartyKit - Durable objects

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45:08

Raycast founder Thomas Paul Mann - quality, YC and AI

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/04/17

Thomas Paul Mann is the cofounder of Raycast. I use Raycast every day as a replacement for Spotlight. For me, shortcuts are the most useful feature. I put curl requests I commonly use as well as random things like email snippets. It's a massive time saver and really well built.Raycast is a genuinely well built product so Thomas talks quality, getting feedback and how they ship features. We also talk about their unique YC experience and how they've been building AI into Raycast. This episode

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53:52

The startup behind ChatGPT voice - Russ d'Sa from...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/04/10

Russ D’Sa is the founder of LiveKit. They are an open source tool for real time audio and video for LLM applications and they power the voice chat for ChatGPT and Character AI.We discuss:- How lightning works (using ChatGPT/LiveKit)- How LiveKit started working with OpenAI- Why Russ turned down an early 20m acquisition offer- What it’s like to work with the fastest growing company (ever?)- How to prepare for massive scale challenges- Russ’s 3 letter twitter handleThis episode is brought to

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