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Scaling DevTools

We investigate what it takes to grow developer tools and AI DevTools. Topics include developer marketing, DevRel, developer advocacy and developer experience. Featuring founders and key people from the likes of Vercel, ElevenLabs and OpenAI. Scaling DevTools is sponsored by WorkOS.

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45:12

Ahmad Sadeddin, founder of Corgea: you don't need to...

Scaling DevTools ·

2026/02/27

Ahmad Sadeddin is the founder and CEO of Corgea. Corgea provides the security tools to find, triage, and fix insecure code. Ahmad shares:- Why you don't need to raise much to find PMF - stay lean: you should surprise people with how few people you are.- What is a small amount to raise? And what team size do you need? - Pivoting during YC and how Corgea found their first customers and the signs of Product Market Fit- The journey to Product Market Fit never stops- How Corgea worked towards

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49:43

Retool founder David Hsu: AI, future of DevTools &...

Scaling DevTools ·

2026/02/20

David Hsu is the founder of Retool, the low-code platform for building internal tools used by companies like Amazon, Airbnb, and the US Army. David recounts building Retool's first version in weeks with just three components, early outreach failures, shifting to "tomorrow's developers," and LLM use cases.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs. Links:

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42:28

Louis from Vibe Kanban - 20,000 GitHub stars and...

Scaling DevTools ·

2026/02/15

Louis Knight-Webb is the co-founder of Vibe Kanban, an open-source tool for orchestrating AI coding agents. After years of building for enterprise legacy code, Louis pivoted and saw his new project explode to over 20,000 GitHub stars in just a few months. We talk about the "startup university" of the last five years, why he walked away from 6-figure enterprise deals to find true founder-market fit, and why he thinks most people are wrong about AI-generated pull requests.This episode is

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45:50

The Roadmap to PMF (Jason Cohen's essay)

Scaling DevTools ·

2026/02/08

This episode breaks down an article by Jason Cohen, founder of WP Engine and SmartBear, outlining his step-by-step roadmap from idea to product-market fit (PMF) for startups, especially DevTools. His 8 step roadmap provides insights on personal fit, market validation, customer interviews, building an SLC (simple, lovable, complete) MVP, sales focus, retention, prioritization, and founder psychology, drawing from Cohen's unicorn success and pitfalls to avoid.Links: • Jason Cohen • WP

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25:35

Product Market Fit - the only thing that matters

Scaling DevTools ·

2026/01/31

This episode breaks down Marc Andreessen's 2007 article on why market matters most in startups, plus some great wisdom from Michael Seibel on spotting real PMF through explosive growth and customer pull.Links: • Marc Andreessen's article • Michael Seibel's post • Product Market Fit collapseThis episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.

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61:27

Christopher Burns - creator of c15t: the...

Scaling DevTools ·

2026/01/23

This episode is with Christopher Burns, the creator of c15t and founder of consent.io, an open-source, developer-first, ethical provider of privacy infrastructure. Chris explains why most cookie banners are not compliant, and if the EU is going to come after you for it. We talk about how he found product market fit and grew the company, and we also debate London vs SF for startups.Links: • Chris' Linkedin • c15t • ConsentThis episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking

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11:42

The Amazon Web Services origin story (part 1)

Scaling DevTools ·

2026/01/20

This is the story of how Amazon Web Services - arguably the most successful developer tool of all time - got started. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.

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48:46

Adam Frankl returns to answer my TAB questions

Scaling DevTools ·

2026/01/09

Adam Frankl has been the first Marketing VP at three dev-facing unicorns. He returns to the podcast, to reveal the things that DevTool startups must get right in the early days, in order to be successful. We also discuss Jack's experience implementing Technical Advisory Boards (TABs) with a new startup, and the hurdles startups face with outreach, sustaining member enthusiasm across calls, and the art of framing the problem correctly. Adam shares ongoing AI experiments to streamline TAB

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41:16

Kyle Cheung from Greybeam - jumping over bathroom...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/12/31

Kyle Cheung, co-founder of Greybeam, shares how his team built a tool that reduces Snowflake costs by 70-95%, without migration, drawing from multiple pivots over two years. The discussion covers their quirky marketing tactics and advice on fundraising as storytelling.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.Links: • Kyle's Linkedin • Greybeam

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48:42

Matt Klein - cofounder of Bitdrift: meeting...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/12/19

In this episode, Matt Klein (Bitdrift, Envoy) reflects on building EC2 in the early days of AWS, the reality behind AWS’s origins, and what Amazon’s customer obsession looks like from the inside. He then dives into creating Envoy at Lyft, the challenges of open source at scale, and spinning Bitdrift out of Lyft to focus on mobile observability. He shares how to meet developers where they are and what it takes to find product market fit. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're

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45:06

“I met my cofounder while gaming” - CEO of...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/12/10

Will Stewart is the CEO and co-founder of Northflank, the developer platform. He shares how a teenage gaming side project turned into a self-service developer platform that runs complex workloads on Kubernetes across any cloud. He talks about meeting his co-founder online, fundraising and hiring remotely and why they took years to launch. He offers some interesting insights on dealing with bugs, product vision and changelogs.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about

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64:07

DevRel is unbelievably back - with swyx

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/12/05

In Shawn "swyx" Wang's third appearance on the podcast, we talk about his recent interview with Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan about AI in biomedical research, and the goal to understand and eventually eradicate all diseases. We also talk about how DevRel is unbelievable back, the challenges of uphill DevRel, the dynamics of the current AI investment bubble, and the new projects he is working on.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise

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35:07

Growing Marimo's YouTube channel, with Vincent D....

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/11/30

Vincent D. Warmerdam from Marimo shares how they grew their YouTube channel for their Python notebook, using regular Shorts to reach thousands of new viewers each week. He talks about the importance of being genuinely excited about what you’re building and how consistent, authentic content can help both founders and creators connect with their audience. He gives practical advice and real-world insights for anyone interested in DevRel or growing a DevTool channel.This episode is brought to

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39:20

How RevenueCat tore up the sales playbook, with Rik...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/11/21

Rik Haandrikman talks about sales incentives and growth at RevenueCat, and their creative approach to conferences. He explains why their sales team focuses on helping customers evaluate the product in their own way, how aligning incentives shapes company culture and how they make the most out of rare, compelling events.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit

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24:11

Baseten CEO and co-founder Tuhin Srivastava on...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/11/14

The episode features Baseten CEO and cofounder Tuhin, who shares Baseten’s journey from a small team in the pre-GenAI era to scaling rapidly and raising $150M in Series D funding. The discussion delves into building robust inference infrastructure for AI applications, navigating market shifts, and developing tools that prioritize speed, developer experience, and customer feedback loops.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS

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73:10

When sales and product led growth meet, with...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/11/07

In this episode, Angelo Saraceno from Railway shares his experience balancing the technical challenges of building a developer-focused product with the realities of enterprise sales. They discuss how understanding customer needs beyond just features is crucial to growing a startup sustainably. Whether you're a founder or developer, this conversation offers valuable insights into turning good products into successful businesses without losing sight of the bigger picture.This episode is

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36:45

Sales 101 with my ex-boss Guy Zerega (former Stack...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/10/31

Guy Zerega led sales and marketing at Stack Overflow, where he once hired me.Now he leads sales at Cyborg - they offer end-to-end encrypted inference data. This is a 101 on what matters in sales; especially to developers.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.Links: • Guy's Linkedin • Guy's new startup, Cyborg

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47:58

How can you actually use AI in DevTools content? With...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/10/24

Victor, VP of Marketing at Strapi, walks us through how AI can be used in content creation—what tools work, what to watch out for, and how you can try some of these techniques yourself. This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On and audit logs.Links: • Victor's X • Victor's Linkedin • Strapi • GrowthX • Kapa • Octolens • Semrush

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43:41

How PlanetScale write content, with Ben Dicken

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/10/17

Ben Dicken is a developer educator at PlanetScale, he's an incredible writer and teacher, who's made some amazing technical articles that developers actually love reading. We get into his reasons for working so hard on these articles, his process, and how he makes content that genuinely helps engineers understand complex ideas.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can help you add enterprise features like Single Sign On

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21:01

Technical Advisory Boards - the most important action...

Scaling DevTools ·

2025/10/10

In this episode, we explore Adam Frankl's concept of a Technical Advisory Board, and how it helps DevTools founders learn directly from potential users. I share personal experience organizing one-on-one interviews to find out real customer problems and gives tips for recruiting members. We explore how to set up the meetings, analyse feedback, and get the most value from the process.This episode is brought to you by WorkOS. If you're thinking about selling to enterprise customers, WorkOS can

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