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The Rollup

Where digital assets meet capital markets. Hosted by Robbie & Andy

Where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Website: https://therollup.co/

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00:28:58

The 9-Figure EtherFi Revenue Machine with Mike Silagadze

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2025/07/25

More infrastructure won’t bring everyday users into crypto. Apps that actually matter to people will.In this episode, we chat with Mike Silagadze, CEO of Ether.fi, about how he raised funds for infrastructure and then pivoted to focus on building consumer-facing apps. Ether.fi is looking to become a DeFi bank where developers can build tools like auto-saving widgets, cashback lottery systems and more.We dive into how infrastructure investment can lead to real consumer adoption, and how that might

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00:29:31

The Real Story Behind Everclear's Growth with Arjun...

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2025/07/24

ETH treasury companies are quietly driving billions in cross-chain volume, and most people are missing it.In today's episode, we sit down with Arjun Bhuptani, founder of Everclear, to explore how institutional ETH flows are creating massive opportunities in cross-chain infrastructure.We cover how Everclear crossed a billion dollars in volume by becoming the clearing layer for cross-chain ETH transactions and why their growth exploded alongside institutional ETH adoption.Let's get after

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00:41:29

John Adler On Proof Of Goverance, TIA Staking, and...

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2025/07/23

Proof of stake might not be the endgame we thought it was.In today's episode, we sit down with John Adler from Celestia to explore his controversial "proof of governance" proposal that's been ruffling feathers in crypto Twitter.John argues staking creates fake yield through inflation while creating unfair validator economics. His solution? Skip staking entirely and move to governance-based validator selection.We dive into how this could slash issuance by 20-40x, why validators are

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01:42:32

Proof Of Governance, Storm on Ownership and...

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2025/07/23

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00:51:18

The Monad Thesis With James Hunsaker

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2025/07/21

High-frequency trading is meeting blockchain reality, but the result isn't what you think.In today's episode, we sit down with James Hunsaker from Monad to cut through the throughput hype. While everyone debates TPS numbers, James explains why latency and economic incentives are the real bottlenecks holding back crypto adoption.This conversation challenges assumptions about what high-performance blockchain infrastructure really needs to deliver.Let's dive into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust

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00:34:27

How Wall Street Learned To Love Tokenization with...

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2025/07/18

The tokenized RWA market just hit $25B. Is this institutional adoption or just hype dressed up in compliance theater?In today's episode, we sit down with Michael Sonnenshein, COO of Securitize, to explore what's really happening. With nearly $4B in tokenized assets and partnerships with BlackRock and Apollo, Securitize is leading the charge.We dive into why Wall Street is embracing tokenization now, what makes their "native" approach different, and the risks everyone's

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02:17:41

The Signal, Boundless Mainnet Launch, Wormhole’s RWA...

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2025/07/18

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00:24:37

Why You Should Question Proof-of-Stake As The Default...

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2025/07/16

lockchain architecture is far from as settled as we’ve been told.In today's episode, we sit down with Jon Charbonneau, co-founder of DBA, live from Permissionless to challenge some of crypto's most accepted design decisions.Jon questions whether Proof-of-Stake should remain the default consensus mechanism and explores where Proof-of-Governance fits into the future. . We also talk about the security risks as L1s push token inflation toward zero and whether Celestia's move toward data

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01:35:42

Dormant BTC Whale Offloading Billions, Tokenization...

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2025/07/16

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00:53:04

How Blockchain Fixes AI's Biggest Problem with Anand...

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2025/07/14

What if the future of AGI isn't owned by a handful of tech giants?In today's episode, we sit down with an Anand Iyer, a prominent AI crypto investor who's been living in the trenches of both worlds to explore how $300 billion has flowed into centralized AI versus just $1 billion into decentralized AI and why this disparity creates the biggest opportunity. We dig into the push to give AI ownership back to the people and a bold prediction: the next billion-dollar project might be coded by just one

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00:17:50

How Programmable IP Could Save Creators From Big Tech...

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2025/07/11

The intellectual property market is worth an estimated $70 trillion. But with AI endlessly creating new variations and evolving on its own, the question of "who owns what?" has never been more complex.This week, we’re sitting down with S.Y. Lee, co-founder of Story Protocol, to dive into what programmable IP really unlocks and the biggest misconceptions about digital ownership.As AI generates infinite possibilities and self-improving agents upgrade themselves, how do we even start thinking

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00:25:23

The Case for a New Bitcoin Execution Layer with Eli...

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2025/07/10

The future of decentralization is about true self-ownership, not just removing middlemen.In today's episode, we sit down with Eli Ben-Sasson, co-founder of StarkWare, to explore his bold 2025 prediction: Starknet becoming Bitcoin's execution layer. We dive into why ZK technology that isn't live in production doesn't scale, how blockchain is becoming the new diplomacy channel, and what happens when people realize they don't fully own their lives.Eli walks us through the pros and

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00:36:15

Why Ethereum Won Argentina's Digital Identity Battle...

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2025/07/08

Real-world crypto adoption won’t happen with just infrastructure, it needs to actually solve the problems that institutions are facing.In today's episode, we sit down with Diego Fernandez, former Secretary of Innovation for Buenos Aires, and RJ from Lambda Class to explore how 700,000 citizens now carry their government documents in crypto wallets through QuarkID.We dive into why governments choose Ethereum over private blockchains, how the "Trust Stack" makes this globally scalable,

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00:41:17

How Stablecoins and DePIN Will Disrupt Everything...

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2025/07/07

Banks have been making money off your deposits while giving you nothing in return. Meanwhile, DePIN networks are building infrastructure that could make these outdated institutions obsolete. All at a fraction of the cost.In today's episode, we sit down with Santiago Roel Santos, founder of Inversion, to explore how stablecoins and decentralized infrastructure are changing everything from banking to physical infrastructure. Santiago’s got a bold vision: He thinks stablecoins are set to merge

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00:36:11

Why AI Agents Need Better Blockchain Data with Marcel...

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2025/07/04

AI agents need data to function, but who actually controls the flow of that data?In this episode, we chat with Marcel from SQD about how decentralized data infrastructure could change the game for the AI agent economy. SQD is building what they call "the Airbnb of databases", a decentralized network of over 3,000 nodes providing data without vendor lock-ins.We dive into why traditional data giants like Snowflake can't support billions of AI agents and how decentralized infrastructure

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00:23:55

Tarun Chitra on AI x Crypto, His AI ‘Daily Drivers’,...

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2025/07/02

Tarun Chitra digs into how the AI stack is fracturing, and that might be exactly what we need.In today's episode, we chat with Tarun and explore how AI models are becoming specialized tools. He breaks down why O3 excels at reasoning but fails at coding, while Claude handles debugging and Gemini maintains consistency.We dive into AI model management, which sees users becoming managers of specialized teams. We also examine why most crypto-AI projects remain premature while discussing genuine

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00:37:14

Haseeb Qureshi on Proof Of Stake, Revenue, and...

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2025/07/01

We sat with Haseeb at Permissionless and delve into the complexities of today's crypto market. The conversation explores nominal yields, inflation dynamics, and the stablecoin landscape. We discuss how payment systems are shifting, the growing intersection between crypto and TradFi, and emerging investment trends across the space.The discussion also touches on AI's role in shaping crypto's future and the importance of patience when navigating market fluctuations. Haseeb shares his

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02:29:16

Kled AI & Accusations, The Staking Landscape, Texas...

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2025/06/24

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00:24:33

Which Stablecoin Will Rule the Next Decade? with Sid...

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2025/06/22

DeFi is finally growing up, but is it becoming something completely different in the process?In today's episode, we sit down with Sid Powell, CEO and Co-Founder of Maple, to explore how institutional capital is reshaping decentralized finance. We dive into the stablecoin wars, who's actually tokenizing real assets versus just doing PR, and whether permissioned DeFi is the inevitable future of capital markets.Let's get into it.The Rollup---Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart

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00:58:40

Jason Yanowitz on The New Era of Attention, Creators,...

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2025/06/20

Jason Yanowitz, co-founder of Blockworks, joins us today to unveil his frameworks for how crypto media has evolved into multi-million dollar information empires. We discussed:- Why Crypto CPMs Are Higher Than Trad Media- The "Messy Middle" That Kills Most Media Companies- How The House-of-Brands Strategy Really Works- Why People Follow Personalities, Not Publications- Onchain IPOs: The Future of Media Exits?- Using AI To Systemize Your BusinessWe also covered the new age of attention,

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