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00:35:08

Matt Hougan & Sal Ternullo: NEAR Is One Of The Best...

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2026/10/06

With 130% dispersion between the best and worst of the top 20 assets over 30 days, Matt Hougan calls that the healthiest signal digital assets has produced in a decade, because it means fundamentals finally drive price. He says the bottom was June, the bull market has started, and the next leg comes from wire house advisors allocating in Q4. Sal Ternullo walks through why Near was mispriced against its intents revenue, the inflation reduction proposal taking emissions from 2.5% to 1.6%, and why the

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00:13:55

Tom Zschach: The Swift Ledger Is Live And Banks Are...

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2026/10/05

Three years ago nobody at Swift was thinking about carrying a token across the network and now the ledger is live and banks are settling cross-border payments with their own deposit tokens. Tom Zschach, who was CIO through that shift, cuts through what he says is widespread confusion: the Swift ledger doesn't do settlement, doesn't hold custody, and doesn't issue tokens. It orchestrates the transaction, and the member banks decide where settlement lands. He also confirms the rumors: big

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00:25:16

Sergey Nazarov: Why Hundreds Of Trillions Of Dollars...

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2026/10/02

Sergey Nazarov says that critical mass is very close now, and when it tips, the amount of tokenized equity in existence skyrockets. He explains Chainlink's role as the interface banks use to access the Swift ledger, breaks down the DTCC collateral app chain and how settlement ties out across Ethereum and the app chain, and makes the case that nobody actually wants tokenization. Rather, they want what becomes possible once something is tokenized.Sergey Nazarov is the Co-Founder of Chainlink.The

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00:18:51

Rob Krugman: This Is The Biggest Unlock In Finance...

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2026/10/01

Broadridge is already settling $380 billion a day in repo onchain, and Rob Krugman expects that to clear a trillion by year end. He explains what actually changes when overnight loans become intraday, why 2027 is the year the brokerage and banking industries finally turn on wallets and custody, and why that unlock matters more than anything else. It takes tokenized assets from 750 million crypto users to billions of ordinary bank customers. He also makes the case that US-backed stablecoins may be

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00:05:23

Vlad Tenev: Trillions Of Assets Are Coming On...

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2026/09/30

Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev joins Andy live from the HOOD Summit in Houston, Texas for a quick conversation about tokenization and Robinhood Chain.He told us to look at the Robinhood app and imagine onchain versions of everything in it. Robinhood Chain is just two months old and already number one in developer activity, with huge onchain perps and spot DEX volume. He confirms private stock tokens are coming at scale, with Robinhood Ventures giving them unique access to private companies asking how to

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00:31:12

Joseph Chalom: Ethereum Is The Toll Road To...

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2026/09/29

Joseph Chalom says Larry Fink's line that Ethereum is the toll road to tokenization is exactly the right way to think about the asset, and he lays out why the market's bearish turn on ETH has it backwards. The SharpLink CEO and former BlackRock digital assets executive breaks down Ethereum's case as a trust commodity, walks through BlackRock's new research on agentic finance and stablecoins, and explains why he thinks agent-driven commerce could eventually dwarf crypto's entire

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00:40:19

Eric Conner: The 52 Month DeFi Bear Market Is Over...

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2026/09/28

Eric Conner says something is happening in crypto he's never seen in 14 years of watching these markets: coins like Zcash and the perp exchanges are decoupling from Bitcoin entirely. The EIP-1559 co-author and OG Ethereum developer explains why he refuses to pick sides between Hyperliquid and Lighter, breaks down the meme-stock trading phenomenon eating into Robinhood's tokenized stocks, and reacts live to major new CFTC guidance that could unlock tokenized assets as collateral.Eric Conner

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00:23:33

Nathan McCauley: Tokenized Deposits Are The Real...

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2026/09/27

Nathan McCauley says most banks don't actually know how much money is in their own accounts until the end of the day, and he explains why tokenized deposits are quietly fixing that. The Anchorage Digital co-founder breaks down why losing the Clarity Act isn't the setback people think, walks through Anchorage's three-part product stack for bringing banks on chain, and lays out who he thinks wins the tokenization supercycle.Nathan McCauley is Co-Founder of Anchorage Digital, one of the

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00:29:36

Dragonfly's Haseeb Qureshi: The Biggest Digital...

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2026/09/26

Haseeb Qureshi joins to catch us up on his portfolio, why he's extremely bullish on perps, tokenization, and prediction markets. He explains how more than half of Hyperliquid's volume is already real-world assets, which means the competitor isn't Coinbase, it's ICE and the Nasdaq, and the addressable market is enormous by comparison. He ranks the big categories Dragonfly is allocating $4 billion across, calls vaults the weakest of them on defensibility, and explains why perps beat

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00:18:11

Se Yong Park: Why The Trillion Dollar Opportunity Is...

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2026/09/24

Se Yong Park says FOMO has the first objective feedback loop in social media history: you made money, or you didn't. He frames it as social media three, the speculation graph following Facebook's social graph and Instagram's interest graph, and explains why FOMO deliberately owns none of the layers it trades on. Plus the retention curve finally smiling at month seven, $17 million paid out to creators and referrers in three weeks, and why tokenized equities are next.Se Yong Park is the

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00:17:34

Carlos Domingo: Why Tokenization Goes From Billions...

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2026/09/22

Carlos Domingo says what Robinhood issued are debt securities, and the industry is conflating three very different products under one word. He walks through all three models, explains why only one gives you actual ownership, and argues the digital assets degen audience buying them is a far smaller market than people assume. He also flags a closing window: the SEC's transfer agent proposal is open for comment until November, and unlike the Gensler era, this one is actually reading them. Plus what

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00:18:48

Ethena CEO: The Market Just Got 60x Bigger...

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2026/09/20

RWA perps just expanded Ethena's addressable market from $2.5 trillion of crypto to $150 trillion of everything else. Guy Young explains why he thinks that's a bigger unlock than anything USDe has done so far, and why Ethena Pay is the first thing he's been this excited about since launch. He's candid about the past three years too as he covers a comical run of four-sigma events, a cap table he now calls a mistake, and the decision to buy out every investor who'd been selling. On

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00:12:42

Kevin O'Leary: Crypto Becomes The 12th Sector Of The...

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2026/09/19

Kevin O’Leary joins us in NYC for an interview about his allocation and views on the digital asset market.Digital assets becoming the twelfth sector of the S&P was his core framing. He thinks it gets there by servicing the other eleven. He also walks back a position he held eighteen months ago: that everything would standardize on Ethereum. Now he expects sectors to pick their own chains, and says whichever one lands the first major exchange takes the whole prize while the rest lose. He closes

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00:14:52

Circle CEO: The Entire Financial System Is Coming...

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2026/09/18

Jeremy Allaire joins us from the Arc mainnet launch event in NYC this week to discuss the explosive growth ahead of agentic finance.Mobile existed for fifteen years before iOS and Android made it actually work. Jeremy Allaire thinks blockchains just hit the same moment. On Arc's launch day, he lays out why Circle built a network operating system rather than another chain, and how the agentic economy requires two systems working together: intelligence layers for the thinking, economic layers for

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00:34:39

Will Peck: How WisdomTree Went From $30M To Over $1...

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2026/09/16

WisdomTree's Head of Digital Asset's Will Peck joins us for Episode #1 of Convergence, our new institutional product for sophisticated investors in partnership with Jacquelyn Melinek and StrataMedia.WisdomTree's onchain assets went from $30 million to over $1 billion, and Will Peck says money market funds did the heavy lifting. On episode one of Convergence, Will explains why tokenized funds complement stablecoins rather than compete with them, and how WisdomTree got SEC exemptive relief

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00:40:06

CMS Holdings: The Next Bull Market Is Upon Us (How To...

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2026/09/15

CMS Holdings operator Dan joins us for a conversation about positioning for the next bull market.Tokenized equities end up bigger than stablecoins, and Dan Matuszewski thinks most people have the reason wrong. It isn't about 24/7 trading or DeFi composability. It's that an enormous share of the world wants to own Nvidia and structurally can't, exactly the gap Tether filled for dollars. He also pushes back on the barbell everyone's crowding into, and makes the contrarian case that L1s

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00:35:14

Sam Kazemian & Raagulan Pathy: Why Neo Banks Are...

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2026/09/13

Raagulan Pathy says KAST becomes a $100 billion company or it fails outright. There's no in-between, and he explains exactly why on this episode. The KAST founder and Frax's Sam Hamidi-Kazemian debate what's actually driving the neo bank and stablecoin boom, why regulators are starting to treat stablecoins as a national priority, and whether brand, network effects, or raw economies of scale end up being the real moat.Raagulan Pathy is the Founder and CEO of KAST, a stablecoin-powered neo

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00:22:20

John Gillen: Ethereum Will Fly From Here And Most...

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2026/09/12

John Gillen says Ethereum could hit $4,000 before the end of the year, and he's been making that case in a viral essay series called Wartime Ethereum. The ex-BlackRock analyst and Milk Road Daily Show host breaks down why tokenization and stablecoins are converging on ETH, why he thinks Wall Street is about to adopt it as its new favorite asset, and who he believes the next wave of buyers actually is.John Gillen is a host of the Milk Road Daily Show and a former BlackRock analyst who spent six

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00:43:04

Felix Jauvin: Why The Fiat Debasement Trade Is Set To...

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2026/09/10

Felix Jauvin says he's as bullish as he ever has been on digital assets and thinks the bottom is in.He's also been quietly rotating Bitcoin into Zcash and he lays out exactly why. The Blockworks Head of Content walks through the SEC's new tokenization exemption, why he thinks 75% of crypto tokens still have no real claim on value, his read on whether the Fed hikes in September. He explains Bessent's bond buying & the relationship with the Fed & Treasury.We end up discussing

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00:41:54

Dan Held: SpaceX Will Hit $100 Trillion Market Cap In...

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2026/09/09

Dan Held joins us to unpack what it means to become a generational investor in today's world. For reference, he bought Bitcoin in 2012 and recently sold a lot to pour it into SpaceX, and says the thesis has barely started. The longtime Bitcoin investor lays out why Starship's collapsing launch costs could unlock a total addressable market bigger than global GDP, why he thinks this cycle just bottomed at $81,000 on the back of the Fed's bond-buying, and why Zcash's run looks more like

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