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Face-to-face with the most important people in digital assets. Website: https://therollup.co/

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01:01:54

The Truth About Crypto Super Apps with Mert and...

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2025/04/21

The race for the ultimate crypto super app is heating up. Who will own the user experience?In this episode, we chat with Mert Mumtaz, CEO of Helius, and Armani Ferrante, CEO of Backpack. Armani takes us through his transition from Apple to Alameda Research, and how that journey led to building one of Solana’s fastest-growing platforms.As markets deal with tariff tensions, institutional adoption is quietly gaining momentum. We dive into the "fat wallet thesis," the shifting role of Bitcoin in smart

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00:51:36

Nick White on TIA Investor FUD, The Mammoth Vision,...

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2025/04/19

After a majorly successful week for the Celestia ecosystem, winning Noble's new AppLayer & Ethena's 'Converge' chain, we are coming to you with an episode recorded in Denver this year with Nick White.We first touched on FUD and asked Nick to openly address the FUD from the community regarding staking, locked tokens, and the tokenomics in general.The technical discussion started their "Go Bigger" roadmap with gigabyte blocks, and dive into how ZK accounts and lazy

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00:23:56

Harry Kalodner on Arbitrum's Future, Timeboost, and...

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2025/04/17

In today's episode, we explore TimeBoost on Arbitrum with Harry Kalodner. Arbitrum DAO has signaled a vote recently to go live with timeboost on mainnet.This innovative mechanism shifts from first-come-first-serve to a priority bidding system while maintaining transaction privacy and fairness.We examine how TimeBoost returns value to the Arbitrum DAO, eliminates latency racing, and builds a more equitable ecosystem. Harry discusses governance challenges and the delicate balance between operational

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00:34:45

Mantra's Co-Founder On The Meteoric Rise of OM,...

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2025/04/15

We filmed this interview with John Patrick Mullen during consensus Hong Kong, in late Feburary 2025.From obscurity to a $13 billion market cap, OM token's 7,000% surge and recent 90% downfall has left many questioning what's really happening behind the scenes?We aim to provide some clarity from before the crash to help you all understand what was happening. The most revealing is what happens when we press on the tougher questions about price action, market makers, tokenomics, and whether

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01:21:52

How Cultural Evolution Is Shaping Our Future with...

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2025/04/14

The shifts in cultural evolution are impacting our society in ways we can’t ignore.Today, we're joined by Robin Hanson, economist and polymath from George Mason University. Robin is known for exploring questions that often remain unanswered, from prediction markets to the possibilities of alien civilizations.In this conversation, we explore how his Futarchy concept, after 26 years, has found its way into the world of crypto, the effects of cultural drift, and the intersection of population

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01:08:27

The Upcoming Bitcoin Institutional Boom with Jeff...

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2025/04/11

Bitcoin is so back. Institutions are talking about it more than ever and are investing at a rapid pace, while the US government is setting up a strategic Bitcoin reserve.In today's episode, we explore the "Back to Bitcoin" thesis with Hemi co-founders Jeff Garzik and Max Sanchez.Hemi takes the best from Bitcoin and Ethereum, combining Bitcoin's security with Ethereum's programmability. How? They embed a Bitcoin full node into the EVM, allowing developers to interact with Bitcoin in completely new

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01:10:20

How To Capitalize on USA vs. China Tariffs With...

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2025/04/10

The clash of economic superpowers is reshaping our future with AI as the ultimate battleground. Today, Arthur Hayes and Nils Pihl from Auki Labs explore how US-China trade tensions reflect a deeper struggle for dominance in physical AI and robotics – where China holds surprising advantages.We discuss with Arthur the move China will be forced to make: devaluing the Yuan to create an independent currency away from USD and other Western fiat currencies. Nils explains why decentralization must expand

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00:55:50

The Modern Day Oracle with Marcin Kazmierczak and...

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2025/04/09

Oracles are the center of DeFi. They're not just important, they're *vital*. But with the rise of high-performance blockchains, oracles are having to rethink their entire game plan.In today's episode, we sit down with Marcin and Jakub from RedStone to explore oracles at their breaking point as blockchains get faster and more demanding. This isn't just another Chainlink competitor story, it's about real incidents exposing oracle design complexities.From the Hyperliquid backstop failure to the

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01:05:33

How To Position For The Institutional Crypto Frenzy...

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2025/04/04

The competition for stablecoin market share is more complex than most realize, especially as institutional adoption heats up.In today's episode, we’re breaking down the nuances of this battle with Guy Young, founder of Ethena, Arthur Hayes, CIO of Maelstorm, and Omer Goldberg, founder of Chaos Labs. We mostly explore the macro landscape, which is now plagued with tariffs, and how Ethena's Converge announcement positions them at the intersection of DeFi and institutional finance.Guy breaks

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00:27:13

What Happens When You Ditch Global Consensus? With...

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2025/04/02

Consensus is slow by design.In crypto, we’ve accepted the tradeoff: robustness at the cost of speed. Whether it’s proof-of-work or proof-of-stake, every node reprocesses every transaction, every time. It’s secure and reliable... but often overkill for most of what we actually do.What if we stopped treating every transaction like a global event? What if the base layer didn’t have to decide who bought a coffee first, especially when those transactions have nothing to do with each other?Pod Network

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00:44:47

Uniswap, Ekubo, and the Rise Of Innovative DEX Designs

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2025/04/01

What if DEXs could do more?Ekubo thinks they can. Their approach? Dedefining efficiency from the ground up, from memory architecture to fee mechanics, decreasing gas costs while unlocking features like TWAMs.In today’s episode, we sit down with Moody, Ekubo's founder and Uniswap v3 co-author, alongside Benjamin Sturisky from the Starknet Foundation.We explore why they chose Starknet over Ethereum mainnet, reflecting shared values around validity rollups, Cairo optimization, and account

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01:09:53

Can Solana Replace NASDAQ? With Max Resnick and Logan...

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2025/03/31

What kind of infrastructure do we actually need to support real, global trading onchain?In today's episode, we dig into the debate between high-throughput blockchains and modular approaches with Logan and Max, both vocal Solana supporters. They share why they believe monolithic scaling is the way to go, and why Solana is aiming to replace NASDAQ, not Ethereum. (Yes!)We discuss how global data synchronization at the speed of light could lead to fairer markets with tighter spreads, potentially

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00:23:48

Ram Kumar on AGI, Specialized Intelligence, and Agent...

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2025/03/28

Now that the Crypto AI peak of inflated expectations has passed, what’s actually built to last?In today's episode, we are looking at the real infrastructure needed for long-term AI projects.We sit down with Ram Kumar of OpenLedger to explore how their team is building AI that actually understands crypto, not just slapping ChatGPT onto existing apps. OpenLedger is designing intelligence that’s native to DeFi and blockchain, not retrofitted for it.This shift from generic AI to systems that truly grasp

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00:29:43

Are Stablecoins & RWAs Crypto’s Main Use Case? with...

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2025/03/27

Crypto has always been a game of extremes. On one end, a memecoins casino and speculative madness; on the other, an attempt to build something more sustainable.In today's episode, we sit down with Chris Yin, co-founder and CEO of Plume Network, to cut through the noise around RWAs. Chris explains why most RWA projects are just "TradFi people doing TradFi stuff on chain" and why that approach is missing the point entirely.From the reality behind BlackRock's crypto plays to why

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00:37:50

Is Crypto's Biggest Payment Problem Already Solved?...

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2025/03/25

While everyone's attention has been focused the current market volatility, stablecoins have been thriving.In today's episode, we take a look at Plasma and uncover what their team has been working on for stablecoins. Rather than creating another all-purpose blockchain, they've developed something specifically for stablecoin payments. Zero fee USDT transfers in a system built for speed, affordability, and high volume. We spoke with Paul, founder of Plasma, about USDT's growing

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00:33:46

Why A 'Return To Fundamentals' in Crypto Is Imminent...

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2025/03/24

What makes crypto so different in the East and the West?In the U.S. and Europe, teams typically focus on building the foundation: rollups, restaking, scaling solutions. In Asia, markets drive adoption, trading volume, and unique market trends.We sat with YQ, founder of AltLayer, to dive deeper. Western builders think ahead, prioritizing scalability and decentralization. Eastern markets excel at liquidity, with efficient capital flow and rapidly emerging trends.This global dynamic shapes both

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00:32:06

Berachain's DeFi Summer 2.0 Playbook with Smokey the...

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2025/03/21

What if DeFi value flowed back to its users?In today’s episode, we’re exploring the Berachain ecosystem with its founder, Smokey The Bera, to dive into this idea and talk about the chain’s rapid growth.Berachain is different. It’s built on a unique symbiotic relationship between the chain, validators, and apps. By using game theory, it lets users create strategies based on the tokens they want to optimize and their risk preferences.We also dig into how Berachain's flow mechanism works, where apps

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00:34:13

Why An Explosion of User-Owned AI Is Coming with...

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2025/03/19

An AI agent with no hidden motives or data harvesting. Dream or reality?In today's episode, we talk with Illia Polosukhin, co-founder of NEAR Protocol, about the idea of having your own AI.That's exactly what NEAR has created with their AI Transaction Protocol (AITP). They have an open ecosystem where AI systems can communicate and transact while you maintain complete control.NEAR isn't just developing better AI technology, they're also ensuring that automated systems remain open, verifiable, and in

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01:01:42

Alex Gluchowski and Sreeram Kannan on Their...

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2025/03/18

ZK needs decentralized proving networks, or we're just moving trust to a new bottleneck.Same goes for L2s.In today's episode, we cover how EigenLayer attempts to create a new way to coordinate decentralized proving networks so no single entity controls the backbone of ZK systems.We sit down with zkSync co-inventor, Alex Gluchowski and EigenLayer founder, Sreeram to cover how modular scaling works, why decentralizing proof generation matters, what this means for DeFi builders wanting

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00:28:57

How Initia’s Interwoven Economy Is Defying...

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2025/03/15

In today's episode, we sit down with Intia co-founder, Zon, to talk about what Initia is cooking.The Initia team has been busy building their interwoven rollup ecosystem with 15 publicly announced rollups and a massive $26 million invested. Rollups on Initia have raised more than even Initia itself, showing clear interest.We look into Initia's VIP Program, why high staking rates are hurting DeFi ecosystems, how Initia plans to boost economic velocity, and why they believe purpose-built chains will

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