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Face-to-face with the most important people in digital assets. Website: https://therollup.co/

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00:28:06

Ed Felten on Arbitrum DAO, Timeboost, and His Newest...

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2024/12/02

For today's episode, the spotlight is on Arbitrum—not just the L2 you’ve come to know, but a growing network exploring new dimensions of scaling, decentralization, and interoperability. From innovative concepts like BOLD for permissionless validation to Timeboost’s approach to tackling MEV and decentralized sequencing challenges, there’s a lot to unpack here. So, Andy sat down with Ed Felten to discuss how Arbitrum’s community, powered by its DAO, has become a proving ground for human coordination

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00:55:54

Max Resnick on Ethereum's Roadmap, Economics, and...

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2024/11/30

For today's episode, we’re diving into one of the most controversial conversations around Ethereum’s future—the decisions required to create a truly thriving onchain ecosystem.Joined by Max Resnick, we raised key questions about the future of rollups, appchains, and Ethereum’s economic structure. Are rollups helping Ethereum grow, or are they parasitic? Should apps like Uniswap stay on Ethereum L1, or is launching their own chain inevitable? How do we address the growing cost of security while

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00:54:57

The Biggest Shift In Crypto Investing Since ICOs with...

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2024/11/28

For today's episode, a thanksgiving day special, we are breaking down an evolving model in the crypto space that looks beyond traditional VC funding.Legion, a platform built from the ground up to address issues with token launches, is reshaping how communities and projects interact with each other. We are teaming up with Legion to bring early stage opportunities to our community of amazing listeners and readers. In this conversation with Anil Lulla, CEO of Delphi Digital and Fabrizio Giobardo,

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00:34:37

Tarun Chitra and Jon Charbonneau on Solana vs....

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2024/11/27

For today's episode, we were joined by Tarun & Jon to take a closer look at one of the most compelling debates in crypto: The valuation, 'moneyness', collateral asset viability, and onchain usage of ETH vs. SOL.Is there a real chance that Solana could flip Ethereum in the next several years? Ethereum, with its ETF advantage and rollup-centric focus, is standing strong but may face hurdles in maintaining its lead. Solana, on the other hand, is rapidly onboarding builders and capturing

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01:04:48

Infinex's Vampire Attack on CEXs with Kain Warwick...

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2024/11/26

Today, we're exploring a project that has its sights set on making onchain DeFi just as approachable as traditional exchanges and brokerages. Infinex, led by Kain and Jed, brings a fresh take to the DeFi landscape by prioritizing user experience and easing the transition for those who are familiar with centralized platforms like Binance but hesitant to fully dive into DeFi due to the UX complexities. For context, Kain Warwick is an early DeFi adopter from his time with Synthetix, and Jed brings a

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00:57:48

Anthony Sassano on The Past, Present, And Future of...

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2024/11/22

Today, we’re diving into the story of Ethereum—its past, its present, and its ambitious path forward with a core leader of the community, and founder of The Daily Gwei, Anthony Sassano. Ethereum’s evolution is a tale of resilience and innovation. From surviving brutal bear markets to leading the charge with decentralized applications and L2 solutions, this ecosystem has seen it all. During the relatively quiet 'onchain' years of 2018-2019, a core group of believers kept the flame alive, laying the

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01:54:20

Andre Cronje on DeFi, Sonic Network, and His New Apps

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2024/11/20

Welcome to a blast from the past. Imagine this: You're on your laptop in summer 2020, when you see a message from a friend "new yield farm just opened called Yearn, you can only farm it for one week with DAI." You ape in. The rest is history, and DeFi was (more or less) born. That was the early stages of Andre's journey into DeFi. For his latest reappearance, we will take you on a deep dive into his journey, what he feels about DeFi today, the new apps, and of course Sonic - a revamped approach to

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01:00:40

Is Beam Chain Good For Ethereum? With Justin Drake

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2024/11/19

Today, we’re unpacking Beam Chain, a proposal by Justin Drake that’s sparked wide-ranging discussions in the Ethereum community.Andy and Robbie sat down with Justin in Bangkok to discuss this in person, just one day after his presentation. Beam chain aims to accelerate Ethereum’s roadmap by introducing a massive hard fork specifically aimed at the consensus layer. Whether you’ve heard about the buzz surrounding single-slot finality, programmable execution sharding, or the ambitious plans for full

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00:07:59

Devcon Soundbites: Espresso Mainnet Exclusive with...

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2024/11/13

In this conversation, Ellie discusses the launch of Espresso on Mainnet, focusing on the significance of the Global Confirmation Layer for decentralized sequencing and interoperability among rollups. The discussion covers the benefits of fast and safe bridging, the potential for cross-rollup transactions, and the positive reception from the community. Ellie emphasizes the importance of composability in the ecosystem and the future prospects for rollups opting into Espresso. Website:

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00:17:24

Devcon Soundbites: How EtherFi Plans To Generate...

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2024/11/13

In this conversation, Mike from EtherFi discusses the vision and differentiation of EtherFi as a DeFi protocol, its product suite, business model, and strategies for onboarding new users. He emphasizes the importance of building user-friendly products that allow individuals to manage their finances without traditional banks, while also addressing the tokenomics and community engagement aspects of the protocol. Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify:

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01:13:19

Memecoins, Macro, And AI with Crypto Billionaire...

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2024/11/08

Memecoins are absolutely dominating mindshare in today's crypto economy. While they might be easy to dismiss as passing fads, there appears to be something bigger happening here which we wanted to explore. So, we sat down with Arthur Hayes and Murad Mahmudov to discuss the unique structure of memecoins as a new asset class designed for a generation deeply immersed in social media and digital interaction: Zoomers themselves. We started discussing the recent Trump victory and the idea of a DeFi

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00:26:04

How Camp Is Bridging The Gap With Social Data

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2024/11/06

We're live again from the studio from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for episode 21 with Nirav Murthy about Camp Network.Today’s piece dives into a unique approach to building lasting connections in Web3, using pre-exisiting data from prominent social media platforms. With Camp, we’re looking at a shift from single-transaction incentives to real, ongoing rewards that invite users to share their data, all while staying flexible with user privacy. Camp takes a different path, aiming

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00:50:41

What Is The Next Phase of Onchain Crypto? With Predicate

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2024/11/04

Welcome to episode 20 of EigenLayer Unlocked.In today's video, we dive into the mechanics behind Predicate, led by Nikhil Raghuveera, and their goal to streamline transaction prerequisites across crypto. This idea of “transaction prerequisites” may sound a bit like a mouthful, but the way we are thinking about it is bringing the crypto onchain UX far closer to that of the internet. Predicate is on a mission to bring onchain transactions up to speed with global compliance and security needs. By

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00:24:35

Building Ethereum's Connectivity Hub with Polymer Labs

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2024/11/03

We're live again from the studio from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for episode 19 with Peter Kim.For this episode, we are tackling the fragmentation problem head on with the story of Polymer and their north star of building an onchain experience where different execution environments communicate securely, transparently, and in a way users don’t even need to think about. As you know, we've been pushing the concept of chain abstraction as a key pillar to move into the internet-like

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00:25:11

How Abstract Plans to Dominate Consumer Crypto

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2024/11/02

Welcome back to the live studio podcasts from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for a conversation with Luca from Abstract with a focus on building the next era of consumer-friendly blockchain experiences. As you know, we have been quite bullish on chains which are usecase-specific with a target market and segment of focus. Abstract is designed to prioritize user experience, aiming to be the leading chain that truly puts consumer needs at the forefront. As early supporters of Pudgy

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00:43:48

What is The Interop Endgame? With Hyperlane

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2024/11/01

Welcome to episode 16 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a further look into the interoperability endgame. In today's video, we are focused on the technical design of Hyperlane's open framework for interoperability. Joined by Jon Kol, we touched on why we believe that modular, horizontal scaling is key for the future of the crypto space and building towards that future is where Hyperlane is headed. Recently, Hyperlane announced 'Supelane' in collaboration with Velodrome that brings consistent security

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00:52:42

Why ZK Will Power Crypto's Next Killer Apps with...

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2024/10/31

Welcome to episode 16 of EigenLayer Unlocked. We’ve got a lot to cover, and we’re excited to share some insights from our recent technical talk focused around ZK coprocessors with Ismael from Lagrange.The “internet of proving” is a network where ZK proofs are the centerpiece of all blockchain interactions onchain. We discussed the rise of proof markets onchain, why Lagrange is building their own prover network, and why they have decided to build their tech stack as an EigenLayer AVS. Lagrange is

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00:50:24

How Inco Is Bringing Privacy Onchain using FHE

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2024/10/30

Welcome back to Eigenlayer Unlocked for episode 15. Today, we’re exploring a concept that has intrigued cryptographers for decades but is now edging closer to practical use onchain — Fully Homomorphic Encryption, or FHE.We had the pleasure of speaking with Remi Gai from Inco, who walked us through how FHE is making its mark in crypto. Just recently, they announced a partnership with Circle as well to use FHE with Circle's stablecoin offerings. Think of FHE as the ability to perform computations on

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00:54:37

Why Crypto Is Following A Similar Path As Cloud...

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2024/10/29

Welcome to episode 14 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a deeper dive into the interop landscape of crypto with a tight parallel to the internet experience. Our focus today is on Polymer Labs, for a technical presentation with Bo Du. Polymer is dedicated to making onchain interop as smooth as possible by acting as the "messaging queue" that acts as an interop layer for various rollups. By leveraging EigenLayer's DA, they’re scaling interop capacity to bring down costs and speed up transactions, enabling

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00:55:24

How To Think About Restaking Economics with Tarun Chitra

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2024/10/28

Welcome to episode 13 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a very insightful conversation about building the correct mental model for restaking and crypto-economic security. We had the opportunity to sit down with Tarun Chitra from Gauntlet, who brought mental models, analogies, and key information to the table about how restaking mechanisms work, what makes EigenLayer's economics operate, and why incentives play a crucial role in this evolving ecosystem. We kicked things off by exploring the concept of

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