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Face-to-face with the most important people in digital assets. Website: https://therollup.co/

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00:16:19

Why Movement Is Going All in On MoveVM

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2024/10/27

gmove. Welcome to back to another studio podcast from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked! Today's pod is with Rushi Manche, co-founder of Movement Labs. We discussed the moveVM, Rushi's community building strategy and the testnet. We also explored how regions like Southeast Asia and LATAM are leading the way in everyday crypto adoption, while the USA is trying to get its footing with regulation. On the more technical front, we discussed Rushi's thesis on the shared sequencing layer, M1. Movement’s

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00:15:36

It’s Time For Crypto To Ditch AWS with Versatus

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2024/10/26

Welcome to back to the live studio podcasts from Singapore for EigenLayer UnlockedIn todays episode, we're diving into an engaging conversation where we explore the future of onchain compute. From decentralized cloud solutions to efficient, globally distributed systems, Versatus aims to bring the resilience and security of blockchain to cloud services. We had the chance to explore their approach to addressing centralized infrastructure challenges, why they chose this path, and what sets their

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00:49:30

Is Shared Security A Myth? With Toghrul Maharramov

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2024/10/25

Welcome to episode 10 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a much more broad overview of what shared security really is, how to think about the concept of shared security, and where EigenLayer fits in.Following up on his earlier thoughts around modularity being a meme, we decided to bring Toghrul on to discuss his mental model for shared security and restaking. In the crypto world, shared security is often misunderstood as a term. In today's presentation, Toghrul walks us through why the lack of full

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00:47:28

Why Fast Finality Can Enhance Cross-Rollup...

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2024/10/24

Welcome to episode 9 of EigenLayer Unlocked, with a focus on utilizing a fast finality layer to improve cross-rollup interop and avoid the long finality delays on Ethereum L1.Today, we’re taking a closer look at Nuffle Labs’ fast finality layer, NFFL, an EigenLayer AVS that addresses state fragmentation, user experience issues, and security concerns amongst L2s. Nuffle Labs, led by founders Altan and Firat, comes from a strong technical background, starting with NEAR DA, and they’re known for

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00:58:12

Everything You Need To Launch An AVS With Othentic

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2024/10/23

Welcome to episode 8 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a deep dive into the core infrastructure you need to launch an AVS.Othentic’s journey started with building their own AVS, and along the way, they faced every complexity imaginable. So, they created the Othentic Stack, making it easier for builders to get their AVSs off the ground without having to reinvent the wheel. So, what exactly is an AVS? Think of it as a decentralized computing service that performs complex tasks off-chain while verifying

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00:47:34

How Espresso Aims To Solve The L2 Fragmentation Problem

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2024/10/22

Welcome to Episode 7 of EigenLayer Unlocked, where we’re exploring the concept of cross-chain composability -- and in particular, the fragmentation of the modular ecosystem.This is the key to unlocking the full vision of Ethereum's rollup-centric roadmap facilitating coordination between different chains, and Espresso is at the forefront of making it happen. Robbie had a very technical conversation with Ellie, a researcher and engineer at Espresso, who shared insights into how their protocol is

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00:48:17

What is zkTLS & why is it capturing large mindshare...

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2024/10/21

Join us live for an in-depth exploration of ZKTLS, the tech reshaping how data is verified on the internet. We’re hosting a special panel as part of the Ion Layer Unlocked event, featuring Madhavan Reclaim Protocol and Dawufi from Opacity. Discover why ZKTLS is gaining traction, its potential use cases, and how it enhances privacy and security by making data transfer provable without revealing sensitive information. 𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆,

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00:57:57

Why ZK Verification is Ethereum's Final Frontier with...

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2024/10/21

Welcome to episode 4 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a focus into the final frontier of Ethereum scaling: Inexpensive and lightning fast zk proof verification. In today’s presentation, we break down how ZK proofs allow us to compress complex computations into small, verifiable proofs, drastically reducing the need for re-execution across Ethereum. We were joined by Diego Kingston of Aligned Layer to explain how this helps solve one of Ethereum’s biggest challenges: scaling while keeping proof

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00:17:27

The Next Evolution of Crypto App Experiences with...

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2024/10/20

Welcome to the 5th episode of EigenLayer Unlocked! Today’s pod, live from Singapore, dives into the evolving world of onchain incentives and how projects like Lagrange are setting the stage for more interactive, long-lasting, personalized crypto experiences. We got to hear from Ismael, Gajesh Naik, and Luca Netz on this special episode. Lagrange’s ZK coprocessor is redefining how data flows between apps, enabling active reward distribution that goes beyond traditional airdrops. This isn't just

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00:20:53

How Stateless Apps Enable New Cross-Chain...

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2024/10/19

Welcome to our first EigenLayer Unlocked podcast from Singapore. Over the next few weekends, you can expect dynamic, high-quality, fast paced conversations from Andy and builders within the EigenLayer ecosystem. Today, we’re diving into the idea of stateless apps with Siddharth Lalwani, CEO of Skate. Skate’s approach focuses on solving the liquidity fragmentation issue we see across multiple chains. They’re building a unified AMM model as well as the underlying technology for apps to exist across

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00:55:09

Decentralized Sequencing, Fast Finality, and...

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2024/10/17

Welcome to the 3rd episode of EigenLayer Unlocked. In this episode we take a deep dive into the evolution of restaked rollups with a focus on significant improvements to the state of L2s today, using AVS technology. Alongside Amrit Kumar, we walk through the three main pillars of AltLayer's future vision: Squad, a decentralized sequencer set; Vital, a challenger network for fraud detection; and Mach, a fast finality layer that ensures rollup transactions are confirmed more quickly. We took

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00:48:45

Why ZK is Perfect for Offchain Computation with Brevis

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2024/10/16

Welcome to episode #2 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a dive into a technical exploration of something that’s set to quietly improve how developers build smarter, more scalable DeFi applications: ZK-coprocessors. The magic of ZK is being able to conduct complex off-chain computations and then verifiably attest to their validity onchain. This is the thesis for coprocessors. Brevis is introducing a solution that tackles one of the most frustrating bottlenecks for DeFi builders—limited onchain

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00:55:49

The Role of Operators, Slashing, and Liquid Restaking...

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2024/10/15

Welcome to the 1st episode of EigenLayer Unlocked. This episode is meant to be a primer into how restaking fundamentally works, the key players in the restaking system, and why EigenLayer is leading this category today. At its core, restaking allows users to earn additional rewards by taking on slashing risks, offering a way to maximize risk-adjusted returns. EigenExplorer introduces a novel concept through operator quorums (now referred to as operator sets), which bring more granularity and

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00:56:19

Ethereum's ZK & Formal Verification Endgame with...

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2024/10/08

The Ethereum Foundation has been very active in the public discourse, notably with Vitalik's return back to X and engaging in the technical debates about the Ethereum roadmap. Following our recent podcast with Justin Drake about Ethereum's roadmap, we set out to understand one key component of that discussion in further detail. This component? Real-time proving, formal verification, and building a more resilient smart contract environment for Ethereum. While it might not get as much spotlight as

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00:32:23

Why Purpose-Built L1s?

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2024/10/05

Find out why purpose-built L1s with Jason from StoryProtocol, Luigi from Avax and Zmanian from IQ.𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀: Website:

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00:52:27

Are Based Rollups Really Based?

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2024/10/04

Are Based Rollups Really Based with Bread and Ceciliaz from Gwnyenth Taiko, and Sam Battenally from Rise Chain. Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures:

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00:55:15

Token2049 Reflections, How To Identify Winners, And...

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2024/10/04

Andy, Sherpa, and Jay sat down for a session of actionable market commentary. 00:00 eigen token predictions 04:50 eth beta thoughts 07:32 token2049 key takeaways 21:45 market thoughts for Q4 29:10 how to find big winners now 40:50 early stage vs. liquid market dynamics 49:40 outlook on memes

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00:49:12

Why Solver Rebalancing is An Untapped Market For The...

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2024/10/03

We've been really honing in on the intent-centric future with regards to chain abstraction in recent podcasts, as its something we are particularly excited for and believe in. One of the interesting aspects of the chain abstracted stack is that it requires a ton of collaboration amongst different players to fulfill the endgame of a smooth UX with chain agnosticism. Today, we're taking a closer look into this landscape with an in-person interview in Singapore. Andy sat down with Arjun Bhuptani to

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01:08:03

App-Specific Sequencing (ASS) & LVR Technical Debate...

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2024/10/02

Another technical debate served up for you guys around the redistribution of MEV to apps, the tradeoffs of sequencing for apps, composability, LVR and more.We had the pleasure of chatting with Yuki Yuminaga & Alex Nezbolin, two gigabrains, about the tradeoffs in the app specific sequencing (ASS) paradigm. This concept was introduced by Yuki from Sorella Labs, which aims to optimize how transactions are processed onchain. In this discussion, we explored how ASS allows customized transaction

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00:21:17

Eigenlayer Token Unlock: Everything You Need to Know

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2024/10/01

The world's first intersubjective token is now officially transferable and live, enabling the next era of the Eigenlayer ecosystem. The core breakthrough of the EIGEN token is the enabling of slashing for their ecosystem of AVSs.If you believe in cryptoeconomic security, you can think of the EIGEN token unlock as the first step towards this ecosystem being "turned on" in a sense. There has been a lot of buzz around their approach, especially with the lock drop mechanism, which had a few heads

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