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The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case,

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73:10

84: EXCLUSIVE Mel interviews Pamela Smart's attorney...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/13

In this episode of The In Between, Mel sits down with Pamela Smart’s attorney and her good friend— Matthew Zernhelt, on what feels like a turning point day in Pam’s case.Matt has spent years doing the kind of work that doesn’t fit neatly into soundbites: complex post-conviction litigation, constitutional violations, and the long, grinding fight to get a court to actually look at what went wrong. And this week, he and his team filed a new habeas petition — a last-resort legal mechanism that lets you

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83: I'M HERE FOR GOOD: The Murder of Renee Good

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/13

Listener discretion advised.What happens when the state kills someone — and then decides the story matters more than the truth?In this episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett, examines the killing of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother of three shot and killed by a federal ICE agent in Minneapolis. Using newly analyzed video, eyewitness accounts, and reporting that directly contradicts the federal government’s claims, this episode slows the moment down — frame by frame — and asks what we’re

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82: PART TWO: MEGA episode - Karen Read + Aidan...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/08

What can we say? You don't want to miss this one!If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipsYou can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts!Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts

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63:54

81: PART ONE: MEGA episode - Karen Read + Aidan...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/08

What can we say? You don't want to miss this one! If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipsYou can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts!Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts

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73:43

80: EXCLUSIVE Mel sits down with Pamela Smart's...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/07

Mel sits down with her good friend, Matt Zernhelt, Pamela Smart’s attorney, on the same day her habeas petition was filed—basically the legal vehicle that lets you challenge a conviction after appeals are over. If that sounds confusing, don’t worry. They break it down in real, normal-person language and talk through what went wrong in Pam’s trial and why her team believes her constitutional rights were violated, including:The wiretap transcripts the jury used—and why they’re a huge problemA

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79: Mel and Rebecca discuss the ongoing drama between...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/05

Mel and Rebecca discuss the ongoing drama between anti-Karen Read supporters and the #FKR movement--are the McAlberts fractured? Also sidebars, dogs, finances, Kevin Flynn's bodily functions, and then get into the meat of the episode when they delve into a case Mel investigated and covered in a seven-episode season on The In Between Podcast, the Veronika Rodriguez story, about a woman who reported a SA, but ended up in jail herself when the District Attorney charged her with a felony for recording

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103:15

78: Sam Nordquist, Karen Read Civil Case updates,...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/01

Mel and Rebecca's discuss Karen Read case updates with the civil trial, Sean Goode's compelling motion for ALLL messages between Goode and, well, everyone, millions of discovered Epstein files, the Sam Nordquist case out of upstate New York, and of course tangents about Carvel's cakepuss, new years resolutions and so much more!If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips To donate to Sam Nordquist's family fundraiser:

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81:28

77: 2025 wrap up! PLUS Kelsey Fitzsimmons home for...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/30

Mel + Rebecca wind down 2025 with their first livestream featuring mini-chainsaws, lots of trolls, and news about Kelsey Fitzsimmons, Sean Goode, Jesse Mack Butler, and of course...Turtleboy drama.If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips If you too have been a victim of impersonation of the McAlbert's fundraiser, you can contact GiveSendGo here to lodge a complaint: https://help.givesendgo.com/portal/en... You can now join the YouTube

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76: BLACK WEEK: Updates on the Sam Nordquist case and...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/26

This update includes graphic and disturbing information about torture, captivity, group violence, and abuse involving a trans victim. Please take care while listening.When I first introduced you to Sam’s story earlier this season, we talked about what was publicly known at the time: a 24-year-old trans man from Minnesota who flew to New York to meet a woman he’d met on TikTok… and never made it home. He missed his flight. His phone shut off. And the messages that trickled back to his family didn’t

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106:32

75: MEGA EPISODE: Karen Read Civil Case, Proctor...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/19

The holidays are in full swing, so you'd think the news would slow down. It's not. It actually feels like it's ramping up. It's an advent calendar of true crime news on the daily and Mel and Rebecca are here to discuss and dish a little.In this episode the team breaks down the back-and-forth in the O'Keefe civil suit against Karen Read, new information dripping out about the contents of Michael Proctor's emails, and who is affected by his misconduct, those photos of all the president's men (and

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73: A Boy Named Truth: The Murder of Brandon Teena

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/16

In December 1993, a young man named Brandon Teena was trying to build a life in rural Nebraska—one built on truth, freedom, and finally being seen for who he was. Instead, he walked straight into a storm of transphobia, violence, and a criminal justice system that treated him like a joke rather than a victim. Days after reporting a brutal assault, Brandon, along with Lisa Lambert and Philip DeVine, was murdered in a farmhouse outside Humboldt.In this deeply personal episode, Mel revisits Brandon’s

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84:08

74: BRIAN WALSHE VERDICT, Morrissey speaks, saying...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/16

Rebecca and Mel had a lot to talk about today that weighs heavy on the heart, but luckily they also know how to take a hard left at a tangent and keep the laughter shining a light. This shit is tough to talk about. Thanks for being with us. If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites If you too have been a victim of impersonation of the McAlbert's fundraiser, you can contact GiveSendGo here to lodge a complaint: https://help.givesendgo.com/portal/en... You can now join the

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104:55

72: 💃🏼Menopause break! Defense rests in Brian Walshe...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/12

Mega Something's Off episode with a few menopause breaks. Mel and Rebecca are talkers...what can we say. 🤷🏻‍♀️ In this episode the hosts--who like to interrupt one another often--breakdown historic cases like OJ Simpson, Pamela Smart, and Matthew Shepard, while getting into the nuances of why the defense chose NOT to put on a case in the Brian Walsh Trial. We'll be on verdict watch starting (probably) tomorrow, but in the meantime, something's off...especially with all those Lowes and Home

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24:37

71: The Murder That Moved a Nation: Matthew Shepard

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/10

In October 1998, 21-year-old Matthew Shepard was lured from a Wyoming bar, beaten, tied to a fence on the outskirts of Laramie, and left alone in the freezing dark for eighteen hours. His murder shocked the nation, ignited a global outcry, and reshaped the fight for LGBTQ+ rights in America. But behind the headlines and the legislation that now carries his name was a real kid — small, gentle, hopeful — who trusted the wrong people on an ordinary Tuesday night.In this episode of The In Between, Mel

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70: SOMETHING'S OFF: Tangent City! Plus Turtleboy...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/06

Mel + Rebecca take a train to tangent city PLUS the new Turtleboy hearing v. Cosgrove where Cosgrove argues for emails verses hard copies, days 4+5 of the Brian Walshe Trial--including testimony from Ana Walshe's DC boyfriend, William Fastow...and vampire facials?If you like us, tip us. http://www.venmo.com/melbarrettwrites Thank you!!! You can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT:

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77:29

69: Commonwealth plays games with Kelsey Fitzsimmons,...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/05

Drama, drama, drama. Mel + Rebecca try to parse the latest Turtleboy drama, while the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is back on their bullshit with the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case, and Mel takes you on a journey through the bonkers first three days of the Brian Walshe Murder Trial. If you like us, tip us. http://www.venmo.com/melbarrettwrites Thank you!!! You can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT:

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31:33

68: LIVE FREE OR DIE: Pamela Smart Asks The State Of...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/04

It's been a long road, but we're finally here. Pamela Smart's attorneys are filing a petition of Habeus Corpus asking for a new trial or at the very least resentencing and they've given me access to the petition. I've been investigating Pam's case for going on a decade and some of the work I did on the first season of The In Between Podcast became the basis for this Habeus. I'm always so proud of the work I do on The In Between Podcast, but this case has been my white whale and I'm so honored to be

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27:55

67: NEW UPDATES in the Pamela Smart Story - Dark Week...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/11/25

It’s been more than thirty years since Pamela Smart, a 22-year-old media coordinator from Derry, New Hampshire, was convicted of plotting her husband’s murder. But the story isn’t over. In fact, it’s entering a new chapter.Pamela’s legal team, led by attorney Matthew Zernhelt, has just filed a new habeas corpus petition — and some of the evidence behind it came directly from Mel's own investigation. Among the claims: Inaccurate transcripts given to the jury — words allegedly spoken by Pam

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81:46

66: LISTEN to the new Karen Read Complaint against...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/11/22

If you're a listening learner, you'll hopefully get a lot out of listening to Mel read you the new Karen Read complaint.If you want to read along, here's the court filing: https://www.scribd.com/document/951000000/Karen-Read-Lawsuit#from_embed If you want to listen without ads, join The Investigator Club Thanks for listening. If you like Mel's work, please let her know, by tipping.

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59:27

64: MEGA Something's Off Episode PART ONE - Karen...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/11/21

In PART ONE of this mega episode--which was too big to upload, so I'm releasing it in parts--Mel + Rebecca break down Brian Walshe pre-trial updates, Karen Read's civil suit against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully and the McAlberts, Corri Hopkins gets the sidebahs, Deitch is running for Morrissey’s job, Gaitani helps out Turtleboy, and Depetro reaches out to Rebecca. TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips You can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite

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