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The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case,

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97:07

96: MICHAEL PROCTOR LOST HIS PHONE? UPDATES ON...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/02/05

Mel and Rebecca break down Michael Proctor lost his phone (AYFKM?) Who Danny Dasilva from the Lowell PD is and wtf is he doing with a 17 year-old? And have you heard about JMail? You have now. You don't want to miss this one!If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipsYou can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast

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120:06

95: Farwell motion to dismiss + Cosgrove wants a sub...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/02/05

Mel and Rebecca break down the explosive news of the week: Matthew Farwell asks the judge to change the venue AND dismiss the case against him and the judge in Aidan Kearney's witness intimidation case suggest Cosgrove sub in another prosecutor if Lindsey Gaitani takes the stand. WTAF?PLUS menopausal injuries, lotsa tangents, and what's up with the journalism debate between Turtleboy and Sue O'connell? Oh and there's also the Epstein Files, Don Lemon, and Mel teases a new show about politics.If you

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31:33

94: It's Groundhog Day! LIVE FREE OR DIE: Pamela...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/02/02

We're doing a back episode this week since it's Groundhog Day! Pamela Smart has received a hearing date in late February 2026. We don't have news yet whether this will be an evidentiary hearing or just process, but Mel will keep you informed as the news comes out. Pam's attorneys feel confident that their arguments are solid and based in NH case law, so if the state of NH doesn't hear this case, it proves politics are at play once again when it comes to Pamela Smart.Stay tuned! It's going to be an

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96:37

93: McAlberts motion to dismiss, Brian Tully...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/29

If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips You can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts! Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts!

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37:11

92: In Cold Blood...and lies: The Murder of Alex Pretti

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/27

Within hours of Alex Pretti being killed by a federal officer in Minneapolis, the government decided who he was.They said he was a terrorist.They said he came to kill law enforcement.They said the case was clear.But the evidence tells a very different story.Alex Pretti was a 37-year-old ICU nurse, a licensed gun owner, and a U.S. citizen who was filming a federal immigration enforcement operation when things escalated. Video shows him holding a phone. Witnesses say he moved toward a woman who had

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149:38

91: Something's Off with Auntie Deb

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/27

Mel and Rebecca welcome Karen Read Dramaturge, Jimmy aka Auntie Deb, to the show to dish on all things Read adjacent and pop culture. We had a blast with Jimmy, though he does show up late. 🤣 If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips You can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your

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117:41

90: Weekend catch up Karen Read Civil Case and Aaron...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/25

Mel and Rebecca discuss KAren Read updates, the Turtleboy movie, Aaron Spencer trial updates, police corruption and civil rights.If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipsIf you too have been a victim of impersonation of the McAlbert's fundraiser, you can contact GiveSendGo here to lodge a complaint: https://help.givesendgo.com/portal/en...You can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow

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105:03

89: Rebecca's back + there's A LOT to discuss: Karen...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/23

A new episode of Something's Off! Rebecca's back from her nude beach vacation and she's got some stories to tell!We also dive into the new release of Brian Higgins police interview and the inconsistencies we found there, Turtleboy/Young Jerks fundraiser drama, Plevin Lenihan's "bombshell," and of course, more sidebahs!This is the audio from the Something's Off YouTube presentation. If you want to watch the replay, stop by Something's Off and don't forget to engage, subscribe, and share. It helps

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31:31

88: Before the Verdict: Sarah Grace Patrick

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/21

Two people are dead.A family has been destroyed.And a seventeen-year-old girl is sitting in jail, charged as an adult and facing the possibility of life without parole.In this episode of The In Between, Mel takes a careful, evidence-forward look at the case of Sarah Grace Patrick, a Georgia teenager accused of murdering her mother and stepfather while they slept.This is not an episode about internet rumor or TikTok outrage. It’s about what we actually know, what we don’t, and how quickly narrative

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108:12

87: Presenting Aaron Spencer and Timothy Busfield

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/20

While Rebecca's away, Mel jumped on solo to talk about two cases that are keeping her up at night: Aaron Spencer, the Arkansas father, who killed the man who had SA'd and kidnapped his daughter. Was it vigilantism, or stopping a crime as it was happening. Let Mel know in the comments.And well-known actor, Timothy Busfield (Thirtysomething, West Wing) is arrested for child SA, accused of abusing 11 year-old twin boys who he was directing on set of The Cleaning Lady. His wife, Melissa Gilbert (Little

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82:56

86: Something's Off with Maggie Freleng

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/15

While Rebecca's on vacation, Mel sits down with fellow podcaster, rockstar journalist, all around badass, and friend, Maggie Freleng. If you want to watch Mel fangirl all over Maggie, join us! We'll be talking about Maggie's groundbreaking work on wrongful convictions, her newest and amazing podcast, Bone Valley: Graves County Season 3, and the ethics of reporting in the true crime sphere. If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipsYou can now join the

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105:40

85: Something's Off with Ellyn Marsh

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/15

We knew that already though. Join Mel and cohost, Ellyn Marsh, who is in for Rebecca who is on vacation as they talk Alan Jackson on Billy Bush, Rotten Mango interview w/Karen Read, and Microdots 24 mph in reverse?If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipsYou can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you

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73:10

84: EXCLUSIVE Mel interviews Pamela Smart's attorney...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/13

In this episode of The In Between, Mel sits down with Pamela Smart’s attorney and her good friend— Matthew Zernhelt, on what feels like a turning point day in Pam’s case.Matt has spent years doing the kind of work that doesn’t fit neatly into soundbites: complex post-conviction litigation, constitutional violations, and the long, grinding fight to get a court to actually look at what went wrong. And this week, he and his team filed a new habeas petition — a last-resort legal mechanism that lets you

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29:06

83: I'M HERE FOR GOOD: The Murder of Renee Good

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/13

Listener discretion advised.What happens when the state kills someone — and then decides the story matters more than the truth?In this episode of The In Between, host Mel Barrett, examines the killing of Renee Nicole Good, a 37-year-old mother of three shot and killed by a federal ICE agent in Minneapolis. Using newly analyzed video, eyewitness accounts, and reporting that directly contradicts the federal government’s claims, this episode slows the moment down — frame by frame — and asks what we’re

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67:56

82: PART TWO: MEGA episode - Karen Read + Aidan...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/08

What can we say? You don't want to miss this one!If you like us, please tip us:venmo: @melbarrettwritescashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipsYou can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts!Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts

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63:54

81: PART ONE: MEGA episode - Karen Read + Aidan...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/08

What can we say? You don't want to miss this one! If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTipsYou can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level.Follow @realmelbarrett on all socials / TT: @jackofalltradesdc Listen to the In Between Podcast wherever you get your podcasts!Follow ‪@reblavoie‬ on all socials Listen to Crime Writer's On wherever you get your podcasts

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73:43

80: EXCLUSIVE Mel sits down with Pamela Smart's...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/07

Mel sits down with her good friend, Matt Zernhelt, Pamela Smart’s attorney, on the same day her habeas petition was filed—basically the legal vehicle that lets you challenge a conviction after appeals are over. If that sounds confusing, don’t worry. They break it down in real, normal-person language and talk through what went wrong in Pam’s trial and why her team believes her constitutional rights were violated, including:The wiretap transcripts the jury used—and why they’re a huge problemA

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87:20

79: Mel and Rebecca discuss the ongoing drama between...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/05

Mel and Rebecca discuss the ongoing drama between anti-Karen Read supporters and the #FKR movement--are the McAlberts fractured? Also sidebars, dogs, finances, Kevin Flynn's bodily functions, and then get into the meat of the episode when they delve into a case Mel investigated and covered in a seven-episode season on The In Between Podcast, the Veronika Rodriguez story, about a woman who reported a SA, but ended up in jail herself when the District Attorney charged her with a felony for recording

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103:15

78: Sam Nordquist, Karen Read Civil Case updates,...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2026/01/01

Mel and Rebecca's discuss Karen Read case updates with the civil trial, Sean Goode's compelling motion for ALLL messages between Goode and, well, everyone, millions of discovered Epstein files, the Sam Nordquist case out of upstate New York, and of course tangents about Carvel's cakepuss, new years resolutions and so much more!If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips To donate to Sam Nordquist's family fundraiser:

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81:28

77: 2025 wrap up! PLUS Kelsey Fitzsimmons home for...

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett ·

2025/12/30

Mel + Rebecca wind down 2025 with their first livestream featuring mini-chainsaws, lots of trolls, and news about Kelsey Fitzsimmons, Sean Goode, Jesse Mack Butler, and of course...Turtleboy drama.If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips If you too have been a victim of impersonation of the McAlbert's fundraiser, you can contact GiveSendGo here to lodge a complaint: https://help.givesendgo.com/portal/en... You can now join the YouTube

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