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It Gets Late Early: Ageism in the Workplace

Maureen Wiley Clough

Have you ever looked around at your tech company and realized you’re one of the oldest people in the room…and you may not even be 40 yet? It gets late early is a podcast and community focused on the experience of aging as a tech employee. We’ll uncover the root of Silicon Valley’s obsession with youth, and parse fact from fiction. We’ll explore individual experiences across tech companies of various sizes, learn from experts, and share practical advice on how tech workers can build long and

business careers

All Episodes

44:20

How to Be a Better Manager With Ashley Herd of...

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2024/04/02

Becoming a manager through a promotion or receiving a job offer is a rewarding accomplishment for an employee. While these opportunities can prove exciting for both first-time and long-time managers, not everyone is innately gifted with the skills it takes to be a good manager. Ask just about anyone, and they’ll tell you about that bad boss (or 7) they’ve had across their corporate careers.In today's episode, the relatable and sharp Ashley Herd of Manager Method and HR Besties and I explore what it

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48:29

Ageism in Tech is REAL and People Are Reacting: The...

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2024/03/19

When applying for a job, the hiring process can feel like a waiting game. But what's even worse than waiting for who knows how long or being ghosted altogether is blatantly experiencing age bias while in an interview with a recruitment officer. That's what today’s guest, Vern Six, experienced, which he shared in a LinkedIn post that resonated with many people. In fact, the post went beyond viral, getting millions of views and garnering national media attention.What happened? Vern had a recruiter

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43:22

Why Companies Need to Pay Attention to Older...

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2024/03/05

As more people live longer, consumer brands need to consider the needs of the older population. Companies that neglect senior consumers, especially the Baby Boomers, can end up missing a massive opportunity to attract and retain a growing market and make a ton of money along the way.Older generations, those 50 and older, make up 51% of consumer spending. Despite the prevalence of youth in advertisements, older people spend way, way more money than younger generations (because they have more

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51:42

How to Have a More Fulfilling Midlife With MEA Wisdom...

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2024/02/20

Are you yearning for a more fulfilling midlife? Turning 40, 50, or 60 is a big deal, and a bit scary for many people. However, we can shift our mindset to view it as something hopeful: the beginning of our second adulthood.Instead of thinking of it as a period of decline, we can embrace this period and even begin to feel happier with each passing year. We can start redefining who we are beyond our bodies or personalities. Think of it as a transition period and a space for new beginnings.Easier said

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46:41

Today's Most Dangerous Conversation: Blame It on the...

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2024/02/06

It is a popular opinion among some people of the younger generations that baby boomers have gotten all the good stuff and left nothing but a broken system for future generations. But boomers, now in their older years, are facing something new and decidedly less good: ageism.Should we feel sorry for them? Should we advocate on their behalf, and on behalf of our future selves? Well, according to my guest today, the answer is a big, fat “nope!” I’m joined by Chad Sowash, the co-host of “HR's Most

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49:00

The Right Way to Implement a DEIB Strategy: A...

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2024/01/23

Many companies are aware of the importance of promoting DEIB in the workplace. It's where you implement measures to ensure your employees feel respected and are treated fairly in an inclusive environment where they can feel comfortable as themselves - and in so doing, create optimal business outcomes.However, many companies fail miserably when it comes to implementing their so-called DEIB programs. Why is that so? Let's get insights from someone who understands exactly what it takes to finesse your

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37:57

Against All Odds: How a Latina Immigrant Jeweler...

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2024/01/09

Do you love jewelry? I do! But more than the jewelry, I love how today's guest makes beautiful jewelry accessible to many people.Mariana Chambers founded Cut + Clarity, a premier destination for customizable, fine jewelry sustainably crafted in NYC. As an immigrant from Buenos Aires, Argentina, Mariana lives out passion and tradition in every aspect of her life.Over the last two decades, Mariana has created jewelry collections for world-class brands and retailers. In 2017, as her family grew, so did

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02:03:23

The Working Class Podcast Crossover With It Gets Late...

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2024/01/02

Have you ever experienced any form of bullying or harassment in the workplace, which makes you wonder why you accepted that job in the first place? How exactly do you deal with workplace issues without sacrificing your future in the company? Today's episode is a bit different from the norm: Attorney Ryan, aka The Labor Lawyer & Working Class podcast host, and I are joining forces to deliver a joint episode. We borrowed Working Class’s long-form, unfiltered interview style for this one, which was

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48:41

Psychological Safety, Imposter Syndrome, and...

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2023/12/26

Which working mom do you know who has it all together? I can't think of anyone. Oh wait…why don’t we ask the same question about dads? Why aren’t they called working dads?Being a parent is an incredibly fulfilling experience, but it comes with a heck of a lot of challenges, none of which you can ever be fully prepared to face. But the truth is working moms face different challenges, not just in their homes, but also, especially in the workplace. Gender bias, ageism, imposter syndrome, and

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01:03:44

The Super Age: How Demographic Change Impacts Us All...

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2023/12/12

The term "Silver Tsunami" has gained prominence in recent years, signifying a considerable demographic change with far-reaching impacts. This phenomenon refers to the rapid increase in the aging population, primarily due to the aging baby boomer generation. But we like “The Super Age” as a description better for obvious reasons.A quarter of the U.S. labor force will be 55 or older by 2030. This presents new challenges for employers, with many boomers exiting the workforce and taking the knowledge,

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38:02

How Slowing Down Can Improve Your Life and Work with...

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2023/11/28

“Anything worth doing is worth doing slowly.” - Mae WestDo you feel like you're constantly running on the treadmill of life? Not sure how to pause and stop feeling like you always have to be doing something? Anyone else just tired…all the time?In this ultra-modern world, we are encouraged to be busy, juggle tasks, and be as productive as humanly possible. It's not always easy to slow down when everyone around you is going fast, but it turns out that slowing down is exactly what we need to live

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46:13

How to Pivot Into Solopreneurship With Ex-Silicon...

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2023/11/14

Do you want to make a living doing more of what you love? Are you ready to discover the joy of solopreneurship and the freedom it brings? Have you been curious about whether you can take a side hustle into a primetime slot?Today's episode features Larry Cornett, a Business Advisor and Leadership Coach. He works with frustrated employees who dream of leaving their 9-5 jobs and launching their own businesses someday.Larry spent over two decades in the Silicon Valley tech industry at top players like

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01:15:38

Exploring HBO's Silicon Valley, Being Old for Tech,...

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2023/10/31

Note: Due to tech issues with my headphones and microphone, my audio on this show isn’t of the typical quality for It Gets Late Early. But Dan sounds great!If you love comedy and work in tech, you must have watched HBO's Silicon Valley. If you haven't…fix that immediately, but it's a show about the struggles of Richard Hendricks, a Silicon Valley founder and engineer trying to build his own company, Pied Piper. The comedic genius of that show is straight-up legendary!Today, I have Dan Lyons, a

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52:42

How Age Bias Impacts Your Career and How to Fight...

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2023/10/17

You may not consider yourself old at 40, but you begin to think about it when you see most of your co-workers in their 20s or 30s being commended for their youthful “energy,” “enthusiasm,” or “hunger.” Many employees strive for success in mid-life and beyond, but they also regularly struggle with varying degrees of ageism - and it’s especially bad at the workplace.If ageism is an issue in your organization, what can you do? How can you challenge stereotypes about aging and show that people of all

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41:29

Update Your Mindset to Upgrade Your Life With...

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2023/10/03

Have you ever felt like you’re checking all the boxes in life to be considered a success, but you’re still left feeling unfulfilled? Do you ever think to yourself, well, as soon as I get this promotion, or as soon as I make some money, I’ll be happier…but then that thing happens, and you’re still feeling empty? Do you ever wonder whether the stress was worth it?Stress is an ever-present challenge for us all in modern-day life, and rampant in the high-pressure tech world. No matter your industry or

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01:06:14

Promote Yourself to CEO of Your Career With A Life...

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2023/09/19

Not sure if your resume and interview skills are up to par to land you your next great role? Bryan’s courses will give you everything you need. Use coupon code "GETSLATEEARLY" for a 10% discount.Imagine planning to buy a new house in the new city where you’ve moved for your new job, when, all of a sudden, you’re told you’re being let go. You thought you were being called into a regular meeting, and then they dropped the bomb. Losing a job is often a stressful and overwhelming experience, especially

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50:23

How to Survive a Toxic Workplace with HRManifesto’s...

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2023/09/05

Have you ever questioned whether you're in the right company or on the right career path? Are you suffering from burnout or feeling trapped in a toxic work environment and need to talk to someone but have no one to turn to whom you can trust? Today, I have an HR expert turned content creator who knows precisely what that's like, and she's here to offer sound advice on how you can survive as an employee in Corporate America - in a hilarious, candid way.Leigh Elena Henderson - who, despite rising to

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38:57

From Young on Wall Street to “Old” in Tech with...

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2023/08/22

Ever wondered what it's like working on Wall Street? The allure of working in the finance realm endures. But why would a guy leave Wall Street to work in a tech startup or, specifically, a company all about fertility and family planning?Today, I have Anthony Franzese, who has embarked on an unlikely and interesting career path. He started his career on Wall Street and later landed in the tech space at Headspace. He now works as a Strategic Partnership Executive at Stork Club, a next-generation

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42:12

Think Your Age Got You Fired? What Lawyers Say to Do...

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2023/08/08

Although stereotypes about older people proliferate in our culture, employers are not supposed to rely on them when making workplace decisions. Several state and federal laws prohibit employers from discriminating against employees based on age, gender, or race. Still, age and other forms of bias are prevalent in tech and other industries. What protection do older workers have? What exactly does the ADEA (Age Discrimination in Employment Act) say about age discrimination?Today, I have Jennie Woltz

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47:32

Why Interviewing Sucks for Older Candidates With John...

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2023/07/25

Today’s episode features a good friend and tech veteran, John Parisi, who is 63 and currently applying for tech jobs. Although he started working at practically the same age as everyone else, he woke up one day wondering, "When did I become the old man at these companies?" A decade ago, I was THAT person who made fun of him for being the oldest guy in the workplace. Now, I join his ranks as an "old person" in tech. And that is what we call karma. So, now we wonder, “Is there hope for ‘olds’ seeking

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