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The AI Argument

Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery

Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it"s not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in "The AI Argument"Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery

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The AI Argument EP54 - 15% Chance AI is Conscious,...

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2025/05/01

AI consciousness could be closer than you think. Justin thinks we might already be seeing slices of awareness every time an AI answers a question. Frank’s quick to point out that we don’t even know how our own consciousness works, so deciding whether AI is conscious is tricky. They both agree that we’re a lot less certain about all this than we like to pretend. Especially when a new expert at Anthropic puts the odds at 15% that AIs are already conscious. Frank also calls out OpenAI’s ...

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The AI Argument - E52 - Google’s Winning Week, OpenAI...

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2025/04/14

Google’s Gemini 2.5 isn’t just better, it might be in a league of its own. From coding to content creation, it’s outperforming everything else. And for once, nobody’s laughing at Google's AI efforts. While Justin’s all-in on the power and promise of Google’s new Agent framework, Frank’s still reeling from Google charging him €25 a pop to test VEO 2, and not even bothering with a warning label. Overall, Google’s finally making good on its AI potential, rolling out powerful models, free dev to...

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The AI Argument - e51 - AI Reshaping Humanity,...

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2025/04/04

Can AI give us deeper relationships, sharper thinking, and more meaningful lives, or is it about to strip away everything that makes us human? Justin argues we’re heading for more time with loved ones and a mental renaissance. Frank’s not buying it. He points to warnings from hundreds of tech experts who think AI could tank empathy, decision-making, and even mental health. Especially if it's all left in the hands of profit-hungry firms. Frank’s big fear? That the relationship between ...

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32:10

Manus Beats OpenAI, AI’s Hidden Goals, and Copyright...

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2025/03/17

Manus might be the biggest leap in agentic AI yet, but is it groundbreaking AI, or just a well-dressed remix of existing tech? It’s making waves, but there’s no secret sauce. No next-gen model. Just some clever engineering. If an independent team can outshine OpenAI and Google with off-the-shelf tools, what does that say about the so-called AI giants? OpenAI wasted no time dropping new developer tools—coincidence, or a torpedo aimed at sinking Manus before it even gets out of beta? Despi...

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The AI Argument EP46: Grok 3’s Rigged Answers,...

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2025/03/04

AI copyright laws could be about to change, but should they? A new report from Ireland’s AI Advisory Council recommends giving AI-generated works limited copyright protection while letting creators opt out of AI training. Frank thinks that’s a reasonable way to protect artists. Justin thinks it’s a fussy bureaucratic workaround that won’t help Europe keep up in the AI race. Copyright holders, he argues, should have no right to refuse, only the right to get paid. Because AI and robotics...

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32:23

The AI Argument EP45: AI Safety Gutted, Grok’s Rapid...

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2025/03/04

Elon Musk once called AI an existential risk. Now he’s built one of the fastest-moving AI companies in history. Grok 3 has landed, and according to some, it’s the best AI model yet. But while AI developers are breaking speed records, regulators are packing up their desks. Musk (who not long ago demanded a six-month AI pause) now has influence in the White House, and Trump’s administration is gutting the very institutions meant to stop AI from going rogue. Even Justin, usually th...

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35:18

The AI Argument - E44 - The Valentine Edition -...

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2025/02/16

JD Vance thinks AI won’t replace workers. That’s not just wrong—it’s the kind of wrong that makes you question everything else he said. In his speech at the Paris AI summit, he insisted the US will innovate, not regulate, as if those two things are mortal enemies. Justin’s smitten—he thinks Vance is cutting through the fear-mongering. Frank, on the other hand, is questioning the man’s grip on reality. If Vance can be this clueless about AI and jobs, why should we trust him about regula...

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40:28

The AI Argument - E43 - Just use OpenAI's Deep Research

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2025/02/11

🎙️ This Week on The AI Argument: The AI landscape is shifting at breakneck speed—game-changing models, geopolitical AI battles, and the looming disruption of entire job sectors. Let’s dive in. 🔍 Biggest Stories: OpenAI releases Deep Research: Featuring reasoning + action capabilities, this could take single-digit percentage of jobs worldwide. Are we on the brink of software agents replacing knowledge workers? Sam Altman’s OpenAI strategy shift: After DeepSeek’s shock success...

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39:09

DeepSeek’s Tiny Titan, Project Stargate, and the Race...

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2025/01/31

Justin says it’s time to stop debating: AGI is coming by 2026—end of. His proof? The jaw-dropping $500 billion Project Stargate—and the game-changing mini-models from DeepSeek. These tiny AI marvels deliver the power of OpenAI models at a fraction of the cost, and they’re sending shockwaves through the tech world. But there’s more to this week’s AI drama than Stargate and DeepSeek—both of which highlight the ferocious global race for AGI. Frank and Justin examine how the U.S. and Ch...

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37:30

The AI Argument EP40 - Welcome to 2025!!!

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2025/01/21

OpenAI promises “shared prosperity” in their Economic Blueprint, but is this a real vision for the future or just a PR stunt to win over regulators and politicians? Justin thinks it’s a bold step forward, while Frank smells corporate spin. Their Economic Blueprint certainly sounds exciting—jobs, growth, and AI-powered goodness—but Frank reckons if you scratch the surface it’s less “shared prosperity” and more “we’ll get rich first, you’ll benefit later… maybe.”This lively debate kicks of...

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The AI Argument - S1E36 - Shipmas begins

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2024/12/09

Is OpenAI’s $200/month pricing a stroke of genius, or are they just testing how far they can push us? Frank and Justin tackle OpenAI’s first "gift" from the 12 Days of Shipmas: the Pro tier. Justin reckons the eye-watering price might make sense if they throw in unlimited Sora and GPT-4.5 access. Frank, meanwhile, wonders how many people really need an AI that costs $200 a month.Then they take on the o1 model, where the real fun begins. Is its "deceptiveness" a sign of creativity and adaptabi...

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The AI Argument EP31: Voice Mode Letdowns, Brundage's...

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2024/10/30

Advanced Voice Mode is finally here in Europe, but it’s… a bit awkward. Justin tried it out in the car, only to end up in an unwanted chat with his phone that just wouldn’t quit. It’s fast, sure, but Frank and Justin agree it’s still missing the cues that make a real conversation feel natural.Then they dive into some big questions about where AI is heading, starting with a warning from former OpenAI executive Miles Brundage. He’s left OpenAI, saying that neither the company nor the world is t...

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33:26

The AI Argument - S1E2 - AI-generated content is...

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2024/10/20

In a world where stolen content is fed through AI, polished up, and posted for likes, the line between authentic voices and recycled fluff is getting harder to see. Frank argues that this wave of inauthentic content could signal the death of social media as we know it. He points out how some people are building massive followings on empty AI posts, defeating the purpose of ‘social’ media.Justin, however, takes a more optimistic view. He suggests that once the dust settles, genuine human voice...

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The AI Argument - S1E29 - We all need a break, even...

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2024/10/12

Is AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) just around the corner, or is it still a ways off? While Gianluca Mauro argues we’re not close, Demis Hassabis is more optimistic, the reality is that even the top minds in AI can’t seem to agree on what’s coming next. Frank and Justin also break down Elon Musk’s latest promises—$30,000 robots and self-driving cars—questioning whether we’re any closer to these breakthroughs than we were when Musk first promised self-driving cars in 2014.Geoffrey H...

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The AI Argument - S1E28 - Naivety abounds! Full steam...

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2024/10/05

The battle over superintelligence is heating up, and not everyone agrees on how to handle it. While some are calling for a 20-year halt on its development to avoid an existential threat, others see that as an impossible goal in a world dominated by geopolitical competition. Frank thinks there’s a chance for global cooperation, but Justin argues it’s pure fantasy with China and the U.S. leading the charge—and Europe tying its hands with heavy AI regulations.As OpenAI pulls in record-break...

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The AI Argument EP27 - OpenAI's leadership style and...

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2024/10/02

The departure of OpenAI’s CTO, Mira Murati, isn’t just a blip—it seems to signal deeper turmoil within one of the most important companies of our time. As Sam Altman continues to dominate the headlines and shape OpenAI’s future, the exits of key figures raise questions about the company’s internal dynamics. Is Altman’s leadership style pushing people out, or is OpenAI’s shift from nonprofit to profit the real cause of this brain drain? Justin and Frank tackle the question: Is OpenAI...

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The AI Argument - S1E2 - Frank goes Nuclear!!!

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2024/09/25

Most people freaked out when LinkedIn quietly opted everyone into using their personal data for AI training. While Frank thinks it’s a violation of privacy, Justin argues that LinkedIn is a public platform, and anyone can scrape your data, regardless of privacy settings. The two debate whether it’s even possible to control how your online information gets used.Meanwhile, nuclear power plants are being restarted to fuel AI’s massive energy demands. Microsoft has signed a deal to power its data...

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The AI Argument - S1E25 - Justin breathes again as...

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2024/09/14

OpenAI’s new o1 model has stirred up plenty of questions—is it really a brand-new model or a reworked version of GPT-4? Justin and Frank explore the model’s capabilities, especially its standout performance in maths, coding, and reasoning, and whether it's worth the hype. While it outperforms humans in highly technical tasks, how does it hold up for more everyday needs, like marketing? The conversation also turns to the shakeup AI is causing in the SaaS world, with Klarna leading the cha...

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The AI Argument - S1E2 - Is $2k a reasonable to end...

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2024/09/10

AI tools are transforming businesses, but are they worth a $2,000 price tag? Frank and Justin tackle this hot topic, reacting to rumours of OpenAI's upcoming "Strawberry" model, which could cost enterprises that much each month. While Justin doubts the legitimacy of such pricing, Frank argues it would only be justifiable if the AI tools could operate autonomously and with absolute trust. Their debate digs into whether such advancements are a good investment or just hype. Beyond that, the...

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The AI Argument - S1E23 - Gartner in despair - 80% of...

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2024/09/05

Is AI really in a 'Trough of Disillusionment,' or are we jumping to conclusions too soon? Frank and Justin take a close look at Gartner's claim that AI has peaked and that users are now sliding into disillusionment. With the rapid advances in AI, it seems premature to be disillusioned, but moving beyond the hype might usher in a phase of more focused and productive use cases.You’ll also hear Justin’s sharp critique of a study that claims 80% of AI projects are failing, alongside a discus...

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