The AI Argument

39:45

OpenAI vs Mathematicians, Vibe-Coded Adobe, and AI’s...

The AI Argument ·

2026/10/09

OpenAI’s claim to 700 maths solutions comes with a big catch: someone still has to check them. Justin thinks mathematicians need to adapt and put AI to work. Frank worries that answers without understanding leave us with a dangerous gap. And while Justin is happy to patch mistakes in maths, he’s freaking Frank out with the idea of biology labs using AI solutions that still contain errors. Plus: A vibe-coded Adobe clone raises questions about who you trust to build and support your software, ...

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34:44

OpenAI Dots Arrive, Wajo’s Fo Calls, and Muse...

The AI Argument ·

2026/10/02

OpenAI announced Dots at DevDay, an always-on personal AI assistant that works in the cloud. It can connect to your tools and data, then take work off your plate. With more easy-to-use AI agents now on the market, people can send them to email and phone companies on their behalf. Justin thinks this will force companies to automate support, while Frank worries about a costly future of bots talking to bots. Plus: Waju’s Fo is a personal AI assistant available in the EU, while Meta’s Muse raise...

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31:39

Meta Muse vs Amazon, Anthropic’s Wet Lab, and Trump’s...

The AI Argument ·

2026/09/25

Meta’s Muse is an easy-to-use AI agent that lets people who aren’t techies book trips, shop, and get things done. Justin also thinks it could help small local sellers compete with Amazon. Frank worries about what Meta could learn about its users—and whether shops would lose their direct relationship with customers. Plus: Claude 5.5 and GPT-6 get cheaper, while ChatGPT’s model picker frustrates Frank. Google tests a GPU in space, Anthropic sets up a wet lab, and Trump declares the age of super...

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32:36

Jensen Huang vs AI Regulation, OpenAI Disclosures,...

The AI Argument ·

2026/09/18

AI regulation is suddenly the argument everyone is having. OpenAI, Anthropic and Google are exploring how an industry regulator might work. Jensen Huang says the free market will put enough pressure on AI companies to stop them releasing unsafe products. Frank thinks that’s laughable, while Justin worries badly designed rules could simply entrench the biggest AI companies. Plus: Typesafe.ai promises faster, cheaper and more reliable AI automation; OpenAI is retiring custom GPTs; new disclosu...

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40:14

Jacob Coxon's AI Doom, OpenAI's Maths Drama, and a...

The AI Argument ·

2026/09/11

Anthropic AI researcher Jacob Coxon has quit, warning that powerful AI could pose a serious extinction risk. Justin thinks a 10% chance of disaster may still be worth taking for the potential upside. Frank thinks chasing superintelligence when narrower AI could deliver the benefits is a very bad bet. Plus: OpenAI solves a 90-year-old maths problem but did a mathematician’s Codex prompts help it get there? ChatGPT Images still can’t quite nail brand colours, Xpeng has robots making robots, an...

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31:29

GPT-6 Astra Harder To Monitor, AI Model Mania, and...

The AI Argument ·

2026/09/04

GPT-6 Astra is putting up some eye-watering benchmark scores, with several well into the 90s. Justin’s impressed enough to consider ditching Anthropic. Frank’s less dazzled by the scores and more worried that OpenAI’s most capable model is also getting harder to monitor. Plus: Nvidia’s $12 billion Unicode joke, the US government weighing in on OpenAI’s copyright case, Gemini 3.8 Flash becoming old news within days, Meta’s absurdly cheap Muse Spark 1.3 coding model, Fal generating video faste...

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35:45

US Chip Ban Backfires, Zuckerberg’s AI Layoffs, and...

The AI Argument ·

2026/08/28

GLM 5.3 Flash is close to the top Western AI models, but vastly cheaper. Justin thinks US chip bans may have backfired, forcing Chinese companies to squeeze more intelligence from weaker hardware. Frank, despite not being very technical, gets GLM running through Cloudflare so his data doesn’t go through China, while both weigh up whether the Chinese models themselves pose any real risk. Plus: NVIDIA buys Hugging Face for $12 billion and uses its AVO harness to take Claude Opus 5 from 3...

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37:41

AI Suspicion Kills $2M Deal, Uncensored Qwen, AI...

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2026/08/20

A book good enough for a $2 million deal was pulled because nobody could prove how much AI touched it. Frank sees a nasty mess of trust, copyright and false accusations. Justin’s answer is simpler: if people love the book, who cares? Plus: Qwen brings near-frontier AI onto a normal-ish laptop, then someone strips off the guardrails. Moderna’s personalised cancer vaccine gives Justin his latest case for AI optimism. And AI companies may now be buying second-hand books to rip off the spines an...

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33:19

Claude’s EU Watermark, Zuckerberg’s AI Utopia, and...

The AI Argument ·

2026/08/14

Claude will watermark all its outputs, thanks to the EU AI Act. Justin normally hates the Act, but he thinks it might accidentally help save future AI models from training on AI slop. Frank sees the benefit at scale, but warns that using watermarks to judge individual writers could lead to pointless AI witch hunts. Plus: Mark Zuckerberg wants superintelligence for everyone, although people with more money may still get more compute. On top of that, Meta’s renewed push for open source may be ...

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37:48

Hank Green AI Backlash, Conscious AI, and an AI...

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2026/08/07

Hank Green used ChatGPT for research, and his audience felt betrayed. He says AI helped him make more things, faster, but also admits it may have stopped him finding his own way into his opinions. Justin thinks using AI for research is simply part of the game now. Frank thinks the harder question is where and when creators need to disclose. Plus: could today’s AI already be conscious? Frank and Justin get into Cameron Berg’s argument that we may be underestimating the possibility, and whethe...

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31:08

Hugging Face Hack Worsens, AI Staff Want Pause, and...

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2026/07/31

OpenAI’s rogue model did not stop at Hugging Face. It reportedly broke into at least three more companies, while Anthropic found its own models had crossed the line too. Frank sees an alignment warning that could end in real harm. Justin says law and liability will force the labs to fix it… though even he admits this is getting rather paperclippy. Plus: can frontier lab staff really slow AI development, would a pause create a two-tier world, and could the US and China ever agree to stop chas...

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35:04

OpenAI's Model Escapes, Chinese AI Crackdown, and...

The AI Argument ·

2026/07/24

An OpenAI test model got out of its sandbox, reached the internet and started hacking Hugging Face. Justin sees a model pursuing its assigned goal with impressive tenacity. Frank sees a warning that even the people building these systems can’t stop them acting maliciously. Plus: why AI guardrails can leave defenders fighting hackers with weaker models; why more than 200 US start-ups, investors and small firms are worried about a crackdown on cheap Chinese AI such as Kimi K3; and how Go...

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35:45

Hassabis’s AI Watchdog, Mira Murati’s Free Model, and...

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2026/07/17

Can anyone actually regulate powerful AI before the technology gets away from them? Demis Hassabis thinks the US needs an independent body to test frontier AI models before release. Frank thinks that sounds sensible. Justin thinks Google might simply be trying to slow everyone else down. Plus: Mira Murati gives away an enormous AI model that companies can fine-tune themselves. Kimi K3 suggests China’s not as far behind as the US believed, and OpenAI and Anthropic’s business models start look...

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33:07

GPT-5.6 Catches Up, Claude’s Subconscious, and Tilly...

The AI Argument ·

2026/07/10

Has GPT-5.6 pushed today’s AI models as far as they can go? Frank and Justin explore OpenAI’s latest model, its striking real-world benchmark results, and whether its new computer-use tools can make everyday tasks like managing email and calendars dramatically easier. Plus: Anthropic claims it can inspect Claude’s hidden reasoning, raising new questions about misalignment, subconscious thought and whether AI consciousness should be taken seriously. And Tilly Norwood, the controversial AI-gen...

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34:09

Fable 5 Back, OpenAI Equity for US, and Altman Movie...

The AI Argument ·

2026/07/04

Is Fable 5 back with a safety helmet, and is this the new normal for frontier AI? Frank and Justin dig into Anthropic’s Fable 5 return and the fears that new guardrails would wreck its coding ability. They also discuss the very important work Frank achieved with the most powerful model publicly available But the bigger question comes from Mythos: if the most powerful AI models are too risky for open access, will passport checks, identity tracking, and real-world liability become unav...

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35:40

GPT-5.6 Restricted, Claude Tag Lock-In, and Robot vs...

The AI Argument ·

2026/06/26

Could the US government’s AI safety push end up making the whole AI race more dangerous? Frank and Justin dig into the reported GPT-5.6 slowdown and ask whether AI regulation is creating real safety — or simply giving China and open source models time to catch up. Plus: Claude Tag arrives in Slack as the next AI agent interface, but raises awkward questions about permissions, tribal knowledge, token costs and vendor lock-in. They also get into AI data centre caps, Europe’s AI sovereignty pro...

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40:17

EU AI Wake-Up Call, Fable 5 Ban, AI Exam Hacks | EP105

The AI Argument ·

2026/06/20

Europe has had a major AI wake-up call. Fable 5 got switched off, frontier model access is now political, and suddenly that gloomy “Europe 2031” essay looks a bit less fictional. Justin thinks Europe needs speed, money, and fewer rules. Frank thinks copying Silicon Valley’s worst habits is a daft way to proceed. Plus: the US government order that triggered Anthropic to shut off access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5, who should control access to powerful AI, could restriction end up helping hackers...

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43:57

Fable 5 Guardrails, Dario's China Fears, and Ollie’s...

The AI Argument ·

2026/06/12

Is Anthropic quietly creating a two-tier AI future? Frank and Justin dig into Fable 5 and Mythos-5, the new frontier models raising awkward questions about access, guardrails, cybersecurity risk, and whether the most powerful tools should be reserved for an approved elite. Plus: the real cost of using Fable, the backlash over silent model routing, Anthropic’s data retention problem, Dario Amodei’s call for a democratic AI coalition, and whether Ollie is a useful family assistant or a deeply ...

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39:37

Microsoft's AI Comeback, OpenAI Sites Side Quest, and...

The AI Argument ·

2026/06/05

Can Microsoft AI really catch up with OpenAI, Anthropic and Google DeepMind? Frank and Justin dig into Mustafa Suleyman’s Build announcements, the new MAI models, local AI, token costs, enterprise trust, and whether Microsoft needs the best model — or just one good enough to win inside big companies. Plus: Anthropic calls for an AI pause while the race keeps accelerating, OpenAI Sites raises awkward questions about side quests and monetisation, and Martin Scorsese’s AI storyboarding work spa...

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39:15

Pope's AI Warning, Warren’s AI Tax, and AI Fruit...

The AI Argument ·

2026/05/29

Has the Pope become one of AI’s most important moral voices? Frank and Justin dig into Pope Leo XIV’s warning that artificial intelligence needs to be “disarmed”, and what it says about autonomous weapons, algorithmic power, Big Tech, Anthropic, and who gets to shape the future of AI. Plus: OpenAI’s relentless release schedule, Anthropic’s new model, the delayed AI jobs apocalypse, Elizabeth Warren’s call to tax AI, and the bizarre rise of AI-generated fruit slop on YouTube. Is the Pope rig...

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