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Heritage Mezcal

Chava Periban, Roy Sierra

A podcast about all things agave that ventures into baseball, marble, tlayudas and other delights.

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00:41:23

Complex Honey

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/02/21

For the last months I've realized that just like mezcal, so many other Mexican culinary products have been neglected over the years. By now we've touched on traditional fermented products like tolonche, we've explored coffee fermentation, herbal infusions and now, naturally, it is the turn of honey. To understand honey's extremely ample world I was lucky enough to have Arlette Gómez as an invitee. She has one of the most gifted palates I've ever encountered and her encyclopedic memory was able to

00:39:51

Holy Smoke!

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/02/14

Agave spirits have been around for at least a few hundred years and within that time they've traveled, they've evolved, they've been prosecuted by the authorities, they've been neglected by modernity and finally, just around 25 years ago, they started to win the hearts of the spirits and cocktail nerds. Now mezcal is a global phenomena, but to be absolutely honest, that is rather surprising. So I've been tracking some of the people that arrived at this scene right when things were starting to

00:25:07

Mezcal Logistics

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/02/07

This may be the most heartbreaking episode that I've ever done. In this conversation with Dalton Kreiss we'll go over mezcal logistics. Because it is not enough to find a very delicious mezcal. Which is a lot of work already, but you also have to deal with regulations, transportation and all sorts of mysterious things before someone can actually acquire what you've chosen with a lot of love. So if you are planning to start an agave spirits brand this may be the episode that could convince you to do

00:27:34

Tasting Coffee

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/01/31

There is not a unique approach to making mezcal or coffee, so it shouldn't be surprising to realize that there are many different ways to dissect their flavors. A few episodes ago I had a long and illuminating conversation with Eric Kozlik about flavor and I wanted to compare and contrast our discussion from a coffee perspective.Coffee is an interesting study-case because it is one of the most consumed commodities in the world. So I had always thought that their tasting protocols were rather strict

00:28:58

Bars, Dubai, Brandy

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/01/24

I listened to this episode with Roberto Ávila (school manager of the Bartending European School in Mexico) a few times trying to come up with a proper introduction. But like I mention at the end of it, it is a bit like a Simpsons episode. The narrative arc is over the place and we jump from working in Dubai to drinking like a Mexican teenager; from how to pair your tacos to how to run a bar. Hope you enjoy this rather eclectic approach.

00:51:53

Tea for Mezcal Purists

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/01/18

If there is something that is practiced by every culture I’ve ever encountered is boiling leaves, herbs and/or flowers to make comforting or delicious drinks. In my household my mother preferred teas over conventional medicine : anis estrella for the stomach, manzanilla for insomnia and bugambilia to scare the flu away were amongst the many other “creations' that she came up with over the years to alleviate even the most stubborn of pains. But it was not until I tried tea in Taiwan that I found an

00:24:12

Joyful Resistance

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/01/11

Everything that I read and hear around agave spirits these days suggests that the people and places that sustain this heritage are at risk.It is clear to me that we are at a time that if we don't do something there may be a day when homogeneity will take over. The days of thinking about the possibilities brought by the ample agave diversity will be gone and we'll end up with something as boring as the cavendish banana. At the same time there are many ways to resist, to promote change and to make

00:48:07

Mexico as a Brand

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/01/03

Every country is a brand. If you want to buy cameras you are probably looking at Japan or Germany; if you have an interest in silk or denim, you may look for French or Italian goods. But when we talk about Mexico, what does our national brand stand for? What is our global reputation? Is our vast biocultural heritage being promoted or are we just being reduced to tequila, tourism and avocados? Beyond some ontological drama, is our brand strengthening the overall economy and promoting social

00:58:43

Sweet, Bitter, Funky.

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/12/27

The main reason why I started this podcast was to have conversations that could expand how we understand agave spirits. You may have noticed this by now, most of the episodes are not directly about mezcal, but about the places, the people and the cultures that make mezcal possible and fascinating. In this episode I wanted to delve into flavor. To truly dissect what bitter, sweet or funky mean when we talk about spirits. After listening to the brilliant way in which my friend Eric Kozlik explored

00:29:59

Con Gusano

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/12/20

Many of the most appreciated spirits in the world are the consequence of clashing a base spirit with some sort of modifier. Think about every brown spirit, made with fairly uninteresting grains, but then, after spending enough time interacting with wood, they get the chance to become complex and glorious. Mallort, big shout out to CH distilleries, Chartrouse and every Amari under the sun, are some of other examples of beloved spirits that have been modified with external elements in some way or

00:15:30

Injured DNA

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/12/13

Unlike most people that would typically enjoy alcohol on their free time, it is not uncommon that given my line of work, that on a normal Tuesday I'll be busy sampling ten or more mezcales. That is the reason why I've been trying to educate myself, finding the best ways not to destroy my body. But it turns out that there are a multitude of versions of what a non dangerous intake of alcohol means. Canada claims that if you have 3 drinks a week you are asking for trouble, while Japan is happy to

00:24:19

La Laguna

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/12/06

Now that a significant number of people know that most of Mexico distills either agaves, dasylirions, sugarcanes or fruits, I believe it is a great time to delve into the different regions that articulate this country. "La Laguna" is a region, that I rarely get to talk about, it that covers municipalities of both Durango and Coahuila, two massive states with a vast agave and dasylirion spirits tradition. Sergio Garnier, founder of Mezcal Ultramundo, helps us have a better understanding of this

00:24:46

Fruit Spirits

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/11/29

If you can distill agave and/or sugarcane then every other "sugar-source" is open for grabs. Be it mango, zapote or even mesquite; mezcaleros have long experimented with other sources either to find new flavors or to limit their expenses. In this conversation with Dalton Kreiss, founder of Maguey Melate, we discuss the prominence of mango as a cult produce that almost rivals the avocado craze, the many ways in which Mexican brandies may take the US market by storm and the technicalities behind these

00:18:20

What is Yeast?

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/11/22

In this podcast we've been discussing fermentation as a verb, almost comparing it to an erupting volcano. We've explored the many was in which agave and even coffee are transformed by this process but we haven't really explored yeast in detail. What exactly is it? How does it survive? Are there better yeasts than others? Can different yeasts create distinct flavors?I can't claim that we came up with clear-cut answers to all of these questions. But we definitely tried our best. Please welcome again

00:49:24

Fermented Coffee

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/11/15

This is the longest ever recorded episode of this podcast. But I just couldn't stop talking and picking Shak Zapata's brain. He is not only a grand barista capable of pulling espressos that will make you weep out of excitement but he has also traveled extensively to secure some of the best Mexican coffees. On this episode we explore the hows and whys of fermenting this powerful bean. Make sure to grab an espresso from Shak at Casa Cardinal:https://www.instagram.com/casacardinal/ A big shout out to

00:27:22

Markets

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/11/08

Markets are places to find mundane objects, make friends and enjoy the most voluptuous fruits. They are as useful as they are mysterious, a bastion for diversity and pleasure. I decided to invite Vinik Juré to talk specifically about the many markets that happen during the week in the central valleys of Oaxaca. I hope you enjoy it. A big shout to the "Animate" employee resource group at Crunchyroll for sponsoring this episode 😘

00:18:32

Rum Basics

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/11/01

Let's forget about mezcal for a moment and think about sugarcane spirits, better known as aguardiente by some and rum by others. In this episode I had the pleasure to chat with Keegan Menezes, a rum lover, which had long and detailed answers to all of my silly questions. Here is a small bio of him as written by the man himself:Keegan Menezes started out as a cocktail bartender when he was in Oxford at university, although he left his professional cocktail-making career behind he has remained part of

00:17:57

What Are We Preserving?

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/10/25

Is there such a thing as traditional mezcal? And if so. Who is entitled to establish what that is and how should it be maintained? In this episode with author and historian Eric Zandona we explore the paradoxes and complexities linked to preserving such a vast biocultural heritage.

00:17:34

Hat's Golden Age

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/10/18

In the agave multiverse there are a number of artifacts that you'll find all around Mexico; with all sorts of different geometries and fabricated with a diverse set of materials: hats. In this chat with Laura Ramos, from "House of Belrio", we discuss with her what does it mean to be a hat designer, the influences of the "Golden Age of Mexican Cinema" and how to use nature as guide when choosing what to fabricate.

00:26:06

Salmiana: A Love Story

Heritage Mezcal ·

2023/10/11

Salmiana is maybe one of the most well distributed better kept secret amongst agave spirits. In "El Bajío", which comprises a good part of Guanajuato, San Luis Potosí and Zacatecas; Salmiana is the the preferred agave to create a vast array of spirits with a long history that sustained some of the mining extravaganzas in the region. This first episode with Darian is meant a soft introduction to an agave that has slowly but surely won my heart. After a long career as a Business Jerk of All Sorts

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