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There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com

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Ep. 124 Of, By, and For Community – A Discussion...

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2025/02/26

Ep. 124 Of, By, and For Community – A Discussion about Community Engagement This week Katie invites industry leaders Donna Walker-Kuhne, Gary Minyard, and Marisol Sánchez-Best to discuss community engagement – a broad term that touches many facets of our industry. This delightful conversation between colleagues and friends just scratches the surface as they discuss language, metrics, internal communication and collaboration, arts as medicine, and more. Marisol Sánchez-Best is the Director of

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Ep. 123 What’s Next? The Pod Goes Rogue

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2025/02/19

Ep. 123 What’s Next? The Pod Goes RogueThe Pod Squad has been hosting the most amazing podcast (we know we’re biased!) for over two years – and it’s time to shake up the format. Listen for what’s next for There’s No Business Like... and give us your feedback via our audience survey! We’d love to hear your ideas for topics, guests, and more. Fill out the survey here: https://forms.gle/najC47yc8ZfmVHKd9 Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions –

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Ep. 122 What Now? Our Current Moment in the Arts

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2025/02/12

Ep. 122 What Now? Our Current Moment in the ArtsThis week we discuss the current state of the arts in early February 2025 and identify a few of the many challenges ahead for our field, including the strain on arts workers after recovering from the pandemic, as well as how we can stand together moving forward. As some of our podcast friends say, things may have changed by the time you hear this. The litigation tracker mentioned in this episode from the Reiss Center on Law and Security can be found

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Ep. 121 Live from MAX – State of the Industry

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2025/02/05

Ep. 121 Live from MAX – State of the Industry This week we share the final episode recorded at the Midwest Arts Xpo in 2024. Our guests: Lauren Jelencovich, Artist Kris Kaminski, ECE Touring Andy McGuire, George Daily Community Auditorium Lisa Rock, Lisa Rock Entertainment Marc Baylin, Penn Live Arts and Collins Center for the Arts Sara Beatty, Kauffman Center for the Arts Maggie McClure, Artist (The Imaginaries) Jeff Laramie, SRO Artists Christine Cox, C-Squared Entertainment Carson Brimm,

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Ep. 120 Melanie Weir: They Don’t All Become Artists

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2025/01/29

Ep. 120 Melanie Weir: They Don’t All Become ArtistsThis week our hosts talk about obscure reports they gave in school, most of which involved dressing up as historical figures. Katie shares her conversation with Melanie Weir from the Western Arts Alliance Conference. Melanie shares the incredible work happening at the Luther Burbank Center for the Arts, how she got started in the arts, the impact of arts programming on youth, and so much more. Melanie Wier is the Associate Director of Education and

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Ep. 119 APAP Recap 2025

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2025/01/22

Ep. 119 APAP Recap 2025This week Katie hosts a conversation with the PodSquad on their time in NYC at APAP 2025. We talk Broadway, showcases, and conference hot topics! Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 118 Chad Lindsey: Togetherness is Our Strength

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2025/01/16

Ep. 118 Chad Lindsey: Togetherness is Our Strength On this episode, we learn what song our hosts would choose as their walkout music, and Katie sits down with fellow Michigander Chad Lindsey. As a new arts Executive Director, Chad shares insights into his first year and how he has connected with his community. Chad also puts to rest the idea that you can’t get a lot done in year one. Chad Lindsey is the Executive Director of City Opera House (https://www.cityoperahouse.org/) in Traverse City,

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Ep. 117 Censorship with Gail Boyd and Jade Solomon...

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2025/01/08

Ep. 117 Censorship with Gail Boyd and Jade Solomon CurtisThis week Kevin shares his conversation with Gail Boyd and Jade Solomon Curtis following a townhall event on censorship at the Western Arts Alliance in August, 2024. Censorship is a complex topic, and this conversation only scratches the surface. Gail Boyd is President of Gail Boyd Artist Management (https://gailboyd.com/). Jade Solomon Curtis (https://www.jadesolomon.com/) is a dance artist and choreographer represented by Siegel Artist

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53:39

Ep. 116 NBL Rewind Josh Benson: Making Time

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2025/01/01

Ep. 116 NBL Rewind Josh Benson: Making TimeWe’ve rewound alllll the way back to Josh’s interview from July 19, 2023 in our final episode of our holiday Rewind series. Danielle visits Josh and catches up on his latest developments, including painting some amazing murals in Marion and cutting back on his 27 gigs…by 1. Join Danielle and Kevin as they sit down with fellow host, Josh Benson. Josh answers the hard-hitting questions like which one of the seven dwarves he identifies most with and what

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Ep. 115 NBL Rewind: Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating...

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2024/12/26

Ep. 115 NBL Rewind: Katie Trzaska-Miller: Creating Connections This week we rewind back to September 2023 and our chat with Pod Host Katie Trzaska-Miller! Danielle checks in with Katie and they catch up on her new business, aptly named Michigan Maven Creative Associates, taking our own advice, and the joy of getting back on stage. Danielle and Kevin continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week we learn about our fellow host, Katie Trzaska-Miller. After a quick

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Ep. 114 Holidays Holidays and Ask Us Anything

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2024/12/18

Ep. 114 Holidays Holidays and Ask Us AnythingThis week the Podsquad gets together at Danielle’s house for another holiday party! The shenanigans are top notch as we take listener questions and talk about our favorite holiday traditions. We wish you a safe and happy holiday season and thank you for continuing to join us week after week! Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 113 NBL Rewind: Danielle Van Hook: Comforting,...

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2024/12/11

Ep. 113 NBL Rewind: Danielle Van Hook: Comforting, Yet ChallengingIn this week’s rewind Katie lady-chats with Danielle and learns what she’s been up to lately, including facilitating a world premiere at the Alden and engaging the art of making memories on family vacations. In this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, this week Bryan and Katie sit down with Danielle, and finally put her in the hot seat! We learn about the journey that led her to arts

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58:38

Ep. 112 NBL Rewind: Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to...

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2024/12/04

Ep. 112 NBL Rewind: Bryan Zellmer: Don’t Be Afraid to Show Your SillinessThe rewinds continue as we get some big updates and news from Bryan! In this episode we continue our special series of interviewing members of our team, and this week Katie and Josh sit down with Bryan. Bryan shares his journey from marketing director to arts admin, how his programming style has shifted as our ecosystem changes, the pitfalls of “quality” art, and his passion for collaboration in every aspect of his life. He

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Ep. 111 NBL Rewind: Kevin Maynard: People Come First

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2024/11/27

Ep. 111 NBL Rewind: Kevin Maynard: People Come FirstWith so many life changes and new listeners, we thought the holidays would be a good time to revisit our Interpodsquad interviews and reintroduce ourselves! Danielle gets the fresh scoop and we re-enjoy Bryan and Josh’s interview with the incomparable Kevin Maynard. We learn about Kevin’s surprising (but unsurprisingly wholesome) first foray into live performance, how his business and accounting background gave him a firm foundation as an arts

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Ep. 110 Lenore Naxon: The Only Constant is Change

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2024/11/20

Ep. 110 Lenore Naxon: The Only Constant is ChangeThis week the PodSquad dreams about what to do with a magical pot of money for extra programming, which leads to Katie’s conversation with friend and mentor Lenore Naxon. Lenore dives into nuances of board management, leading in the presenter consortium space, and how changes in the industry present challenges and opportunities. Lenore Naxon is the founder of Naxon Consulting (https://naxonconsulting.com/) and co-chair of the Presenters Leadership

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Ep. 109 Phil Esparza: Challenges Not Barriers

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2024/11/13

Ep. 109 Phil Esparza: Challenges Not Barriers This week we bring you an unexpected interview from our time at the 2024 WAA Conference. Bryan has the honor and pleasure of sitting down with Phil Esparza of El Teatro Campesino, the legendary Chicano theater company. We discuss the company’s history and legacy, community engagement, and trace Phil’s career from college student to performer to collegiate presenter. Phil Esparza is the Executive Producer of El Teatro Campesino

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Ep. 108: Live from MAX – Are Audiences Back?

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2024/11/06

Ep. 108: Live from MAX – Are Audiences Back? This week our hosts go back in time without the time machine (thanks, Kevin!) to when we first started presenting shows inside again after pandemic closures, and then our guests from the expo hall floor at MAX bring different perspectives on engaging with audiences in this moment to the conversation. We dig into the future of opera and classical music audiences, engaging “young” audiences now for the future, and the impact of social media and other

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Ep. 107 Live from MAX – Reflections on Equity in the...

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2024/10/30

Ep. 107 Live from MAX – Reflections on Equity in the FieldThis week Kevin shares some great news and our hosts think they are hay-larious before diving into the serious topic of changes in equity in our field. Our guests at the Midwest Arts Xpo discuss slow shifts in programming and the hierarchical structures that impede progress, and we dig deep into just a few of the challenges with contracting. Our guests this week are: Sarah Haag, Artist Wallace Thomas, Artist, Ball in the House Clare

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Ep. 106 Paul Sage Cannon: Be Brave Enough to Believe...

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2024/10/23

Ep. 106 Paul Sage Cannon: Be Brave Enough to Believe in Yourself This week our hosts get a bit philosophical before we listen to Danielle’s conversation with singer-songwriter Paul Sage Cannon from our time at the 2024 Western Arts Alliance Conference. Paul shares how his personal history informs his songwriting, how the weight of being a culture barer is both painful and joyful at the same time, and reminds us that music is a healing artform. Paul Sage Cannon ( https://paulsagecannon.com/ ) is a

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Ep. 105 Eric Olmscheid: Make Room to Dream

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2024/10/16

Ep. 105 Eric Olmscheid: Make Room to DreamWhoohoo! This week the Quad Producers celebrate our two-year anniversary! We are so grateful for everyone’s support of this endeavor and for sticking with us week after week, listening and laughing with us. This week Katie speaks with Eric Olmscheid about his journey from farm kid to arts administrator, staying focused on what’s important, and keeping audiences curious. Eric Olmscheid is the Executive Director of Wharton Center for Performing Arts on the

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