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Uncanny Valley | WIRED

Welcome to Uncanny Valley—an insider look at the people, power, and influence of Silicon Valley—where each week, WIRED’s writers and editors bring you original reporting and analysis about some of the biggest stories in tech. On Tuesdays, The Big Interview with WIRED’s Global Editorial Director Katie Drummond in conversation with influential figures in culture, politics, business, science, and beyond for a discussion captured through the WIRED lens. On Thursdays, WIRED writers and editors Zoë

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35:08

Tom Steyer Makes His Case for Billionaires

Uncanny Valley | WIRED ·

2026/05/19

California’s gubernatorial race is drawing national attention, with several Democrats and two Republicans vying for incumbent Gavin Newsom’s seat. Among them is hedge fund billionaire turned gubernatorial candidate Tom Steyer. He joins Katie to explain why he wants to tax billionaires, regulate AI and the role he wants California to play in the national conversation about artificial intelligence. Here on Big Interview, Katie will be having a series of conversations with candidates who are

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28:57

Trump’s Tech Posse in China; Who’s Winning in Musk v....

Uncanny Valley | WIRED ·

2026/05/14

The team dives into Trump’s selected entourage for his high-stakes visit to China — from Silicon Valley’s tech billionaires to Melania director Brett Ratner. Plus, we break down the latest developments in Elon Musk’s lawsuit against Sam Altman, alleging that OpenAI abandoned its original nonprofit mission for profit-driven goals — but is either side actually gaining an edge in the trial? And Leah shares with us some of the most outlandish conspiracy theories that have been swirling around

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42:41

The Creators of Hacks Really, Really, Really Hate AI

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2026/05/12

The hit HBO Max comedy series Hacks follows the tumultuous relationship between a young comedy writer Ava Daniels (Hannah Einbinder) and legacy comedian Deborah Vance (Jean Smart). The show has also had a lot to say about the business of show business. Creators Paul W. Downs and Lucia Aniello join Katie to talk about writing the series, corporate censorship, and why they find AI “deeply disturbing.”Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech,

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27:14

Trump Pivots On AI Regulation; What Is Hantavirus?;...

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2026/05/07

This week, the team discusses the surprising reports of the Trump administration seemingly reversing its stance when it comes to AI safety and regulation. They also look into what exactly is going on with the Hantavirus outbreak, and whether we should be worried. Also — we get into the story of how a former federal employee who was ousted by Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency is now running for office. Plus, a Spirit Airlines laid off employee shares with us how they

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40:06

What’s the ‘Chicken Shop Date’ Creator’s Secret?...

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2026/05/05

Amelia Dimoldenberg, host of the megapopular Chicken Shop Date, joins Katie to talk about control. Who has it, who doesn’t and why it matters so much for success in our influence-focused internet economy. They also talk red carpets and the surprising joy of editing.Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian’s newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial

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33:14

Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?;...

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2026/04/30

This week, the team discusses the stakes behind the trial of Elon Musk against OpenAI’s leadership (and how Microsoft is trying to stay away from the drama.) They also look into what recent layoffs announced at Meta and the industry at large say about the ways in which AI is — and isn’t — replacing jobs. Also, we dive into a WIRED investigation on how the Department of Justice has effectively hollowed out its voting rights work, and how this move could impact future elections. Articles

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34:25

‘Stop Trying to Unmask Satoshi Nakamoto’ Says Actor...

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2026/04/28

Actor Ben McKenzie (The O.C.) is out with a new documentary, Everyone Is Lying to You for Money, which follows his journey into becoming an anti-cryptocurrency advocate. He says we should all stop trying to unmask the presumed original developer(s) of bitcoin known as Satoshi Nakamoto because it benefits only the mysterious inventor. The actor-director talks with Katie about why he thinks crypto is a scam, and why he says people are falling for it. Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny

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35:36

Apple’s Next Chapter; SpaceX and Cursor Strike A...

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2026/04/23

This week, the team discusses what’s next for Apple as Tim Cook steps down from his role as CEO. They also go into the reasoning behind SpaceX and Cursor’s surprising deal, and why Palantir’s self-published manifesto drew so much heat online. Also — we discuss why some conspiracy theorists are leaving Trump’s side, and how a scammer created an AI-generated woman to attract and grift MAGA men. Articles mentioned in this episode:Tim Cook’s Legacy Is Turning Apple Into a Subscription |

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36:05

LegalEagle, the Internet’s Favorite Lawyer, Makes...

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2026/04/21

Devin Stone, the lawyer better known as LegalEagle on YouTube, has been breaking down legal cases - and assessing the accuracy of legal procedurals in film and television -- for years. He talks to Katie about the challenges of keeping up with scandals arising from the Trump Administration.Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian’s newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information

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06:28

Artemis II Astronaut Reflects Upon Return

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2026/04/17

This week, WIRED's Brian Barrett checked in with Artemis II astronaut Victor Glover to know how he feels now that he's back home — and how he and the rest of the crew experienced some of the mission's key moments. Additional Reading: Artemis II’s Breathtaking View of the Far Side of the Moon | WIRED The Future of the Artemis Program Is Riding on Reentry | WIRED Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from

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31:59

Kara Swisher Is Trying To Live Forever

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2026/04/16

This week, we’re bringing you an exclusive conversation between WIRED’s Katie Drummond and tech journalist Kara Swisher. Kara is no stranger to fads in the tech space but the longevity industry — the one which promises to optimize health and delay death at all costs — is one that she has seen continuously grow. But what actually works? Is the industry only fueled by billionaire tech bros or is there something more to it? Katie sits down with Kara to find out. Learn about your ad choices:

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40:41

Silicon Valley Is Spending Millions to Stop One of...

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2026/04/14

New York Assemblyman Alex Bores is running in a crowded race to replace longtime Democratic Congressman Jerry Nadler. Pro-AI PACs have targeted Bores, a former Palantir employee who spearheaded an AI safety law in New York and who wants to put more guardrails on artificial intelligence. Alex joins Katie to talk about his campaign, and his response to those PACs.The midterm elections may seem far off, but races across the country are already heating up. Here on Big Interview, Katie will be

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31:11

OpenAI and Musk Fight Again; DOJ Mishandles Voter...

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2026/04/09

This week, we discuss why OpenAI and Elon Musk’s legal feud is heating up once again — and happening alongside SpaceX’s IPO filing. We also dive into how a Department of Justice lawyer misled a judge about how they’re handling voter data, and why the Artemis II’s launch captured all of our imaginations. Articles mentioned in this episode:The DOJ Misled a Judge About How It’s Using Voter Roll Data | WIRED Artemis II’s Breathtaking View of the Far Side of the Moon | WIRED Join WIRED’s

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39:59

Can UpScrolled Keep Up With a Surge in Users?

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2026/04/07

Last year, Issam Hijazi launched UpScrolled after users decried censorship and shadow-banning on other platforms. When TikTok transferred ownership of its US operations to American investors, UpScrolled's user base soared. Issam joins Kate to talk about his hopes for the new social media platform - and respond to controversy.Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian’s newest tech venture to

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27:37

Iran Targets U.S. Tech; Polymarket’s Bar Flop;...

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2026/04/02

The team is back this week to discuss how top U.S tech companies are increasingly finding themselves as targets in the ongoing war with Iran. We also get an inside view into how Polymarket’s pop-up bar in D.C went sideways. Plus, we go through the steps that the Trump administration is taking to control the upcoming midterm elections. Articles mentioned in this episode:Iran Threatens to Start Attacking Major US Tech Firms on April 1 | WIRED Polymarket’s Coming-Out Party in Washington

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47:41

The Myth That AI Will Replace Language Learning

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2026/03/31

Luis von Ahn, Duolingo’s co-founder and CEO, joins Katie to discuss why we should still learn languages in the age of AI translation. He also talks about how Duolingo is dealing with falling share prices, and what’s next for the company.Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian’s newest tech venture to the effects of inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots on social

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40:05

BIG INTV: Chris Hayes on Urgency and Attention

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2026/03/24

For the first episode of our second season, Katie sits down with fellow journalist Chris Hayes, host of MS NOW’S All In, to talk about covering the news and capturing attention during an all-consuming news cycle. Hayes also talks about his book, The Sirens’ Call: How Attention Became the World’s Most Endangered Resource.Join WIRED’s best and brightest on Uncanny Valley as they dissect the collision of tech, politics, finance, and business, from Alexis Ohanian's newest tech venture to the

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25:01

Nvidia’s “Super Bowl of AI”; Tesla Disappoints Fans;...

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2026/03/19

This week, Brian and Zoë discuss the highlights from Nvidia’s annual developer conference, and why Tesla recently got in trouble with some of its most loyal fans online. Plus, Meta’s decision of shutting down Horizon Worlds VR officially marks the end of the metaverse dream.Articles mentioned in this episode:Nvidia Is Planning to Launch an Open-Source AI Agent Platform | WIRED The Tesla Influencers Leaving the ‘Cult’ | WIRED Meta Is Shutting Down Horizon Worlds on Meta Quest |

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32:53

Introducing Kill Switch Podcast: Uncovering an AI...

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2026/03/18

This week we are bringing you a podcast recommendation. A great tech focused weekly show called Kill Switch, hosted by Dexter Thomas. On this episode Dexter goes down a rabbit hole. When an editor at a local magazine in Toronto received a pitch from a promising new freelancer, he didn’t expect it to spiral into an obsessive investigation. What followed was a deep dive into a web of fake interviews, impossible bylines, and fake reporting. Dexter talks with Nicholas Hune-Brown to trace how he

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31:08

Can Anthropic Win Its Lawsuit?; War Memes; AI Comes...

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2026/03/12

This week, the team discusses what’s at stake for Anthropic after the company sued the Department of Defense. They also take a look at the strategy behind the Trump administration sharing action-filled war memes on social media, and share a scoop about how a controversial company is making millions by organizing the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Plus — could AI come for the jobs of venture capitalists? Articles mentioned in this episode:Anthropic

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