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The Power of Music Thinking

What can the dynamics of music teach us about navigating today’s complex world? The Power of Music Thinking podcast dives deep into this potent analogy. Host Christof Zürn, founder of MusicThinking.com, explores how concepts like listening, tuning, rhythm, and improvisation translate into powerful tools for business, creativity, and leadership.Through engaging interviews with global thought leaders, designers, entrepreneurs, and artists, discover practical ways to improve collaboration, spark

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43:58

Gender equality with Gabriella Di Laccio

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/11/09

My guest today is Gabriella Di Laccio, public speaker, curator, activist, award-winning soprano and recording artist. She is one of the leading voices in the fight for gender equality in music. Listed as one of the BBC’s 100 most inspirational and influential women in the world, Gabriella is also the founder and curator of the charitable foundation Donne - Women in Music - dedicated to achieving gender equality in the music industry. We talk about the incredibly long list of woman composers and the

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49:27

Conducting Design with Raf De Keninck

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/10/10

My guest today is Raf De Keninck, executive member, director of education, research, and organisation of the Design Academy Eindhoven - one of the world's leading design schools. And Raf is also a performing musician, clarinet player and conductor. He played, for example, at the beginning of the 2000s, 300 concerts a year. We start with sharing the incredible dreams he had as a child and a unique ritual he did in his adolescent years. And we get some insights into his leadership skills, for

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41:55

Modular Strategies with Rikkert Achtereekte

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/09/19

My guest today is Rikkert Achtereekte, customer director of sales and electronic musician. Rikkert works for the IT engineering company Schuberg Philis, which focuses on mission-critical processes. And Rikkert is a composer and performer of electronic music and gets together with some friends for a bi-monthly improvisation session on modular synthesizers. Rikkert shares insights about his company that builds solutions for business problems, for example, with a collaborative approach they call

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54:48

The Instrument with a smile with Dagan Bernstein -...

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/08/15

Today we are in Hawaii. We speak with Dagan Bernstein, a teacher and musician passionate about designing and leading innovative educational experiences. Dagan is currently serving as Capstone Coordinator at an independent K-12 international boarding school in Hawaii with additional expertise in mathematics, music, and digital media instruction. We speak about collaboration in the classroom, how to co-create with students and how this might be an inspiration for business people. And we talk

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52:33

The Sound of Nature with Hélène Seiyu Codjo - Shakuhachi

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/07/13

In this episode, you can listen to a conversation with Helene Seiyu Codjo and the sound of the shakuhachi. Helene is a shakuhachi performer, composer and teacher. "In the single tone of the shakuhachi, the whole of nature can be heard whispering its secrets." Dean Seicho Del Bene We talk about the first memorable concert she heard as a child (there is one recital on Spotify with Miguel Ángel Estrella); how she came to the shakuhachi and how playing the shakuhachi has also something to do with

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17:14

Green Listening and how green vinyl records is...

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/06/01

Special edition: Today, we reflect on the changes in the music industry and how we listen to music, from live concerts to streaming - via vinyl, CD, and download. And we think about the impact of our choices, the impact on the environment and what medium and behaviour fits best to your listening experience. Further, we visit Green Vinyl Records in the south of the Netherlands at their factory; we hear the sounds of production of a revolutionary approach to making the vinyl record business a green

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01:29:32

Performing in Japan with Bjoern

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/05/16

Today we are in München, Germany, talking to Björn Eichstädt, Managing Partner & Co-Owner of Storymaker and publisher of the digital magazine “J-BIG – Japan Business in Germany”. He studied Neurobiology and was active in experimental music in the 1990s and 2000s. Björn takes us on a trip to Japan. From J-Horror Films, Japanese Spirits, Film music, audio innovations, sound aficionados and the Sound Design of the Tokyo Treinstation (note: I added the Yurakucho sound after the conversation). And he

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38:45

Finding your Side B with Paula White

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/05/04

Today we are in New Albany, Ohio. We speak with Paula White, a globally recognized sales leader, leadership coach and author of the book Side B: Remix Your Leadership Style. We talk about how music can (re)charge the way you are leading and how leaders can work on their behavioural traits based on music principles. Paula shares with us the ten archetypal instruments that are based on a scientific survey. And Paula explains more about the saxophone type that came out of the survey I did before the

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50:22

Talking about the book with Xenia

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/04/05

Today we switch roles: Christof asked his daughter Xenia to ask him anything about the new book: The Power of Music Thinking. Because Xenia was already a collaborator on the Jam Cards, a pre-reader of the new book and worked with her dad for many years, she can ask questions no one else could or would. They talked about leadership, followership, Service Design, the difference between metaphors and analogies, and why a book? Be ready for a pleasant conversation between father and daughter about The

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54:03

Brands as Patterns with Marc Shillum

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/02/14

Today we speak with Marc Shillum, Designer, Creative Mind and trained musician. Marc was the founding Chief Experience Officer of Matternet, a pioneering transportation startup awarded World Economic Forum Technology Pioneer. In his role, he connected the dots between Customer Needs, Hardware Design, Software Design, User Experience, Visual Design, Business Strategy and Brand Building. Marc has written OpEds for The World Economic Forum and Virgin Unite, delivered keynotes at SXSW, the Lego

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17:59

Listening walk

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2022/02/03

In this short episode, we look back on some conversations from last year, share tips and short exercises like a 1-minute ritual before a brainstorm and the listening walk. Show notes •Podcast playlist on Spotify •The Power of Music Thinking Book, pre-order •Latest Episode More info The Power of Music Thinking is brought to you by CREATIVE COMPANION Learn more about the Book that will be published in April 22, the Jam Cards and the blog on musicthinking.com or the Music Thinking LinkedIn

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52:25

Rules of engagement with Jim Kalbach

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2021/11/30

How do you bring humanity to work? How do you connect with your team on different levels? Today, we are in New York, and we talk with Jim Kalbach. Jim is a noted author, speaker, musician, and instructor in design, customer experience, and strategy. He is currently Chief Evangelist at MURAL, the digital online whiteboard designed for remote collaboration and visual problem-solving. Jim studied music theory and composition with 12-tone composer Charles Wuorinen, and that gives us a kick-start to

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51:29

A Sound Facilitation Business with Gerry Scullion

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2021/09/29

How do you design for inclusivity? How do you get the right people on the team? What would a studio look like for a service designer? Today on the show we have Gerry Scullion. Gerry is the founder of This is HCD, the global human-centred design podcast and international design community of change-makers, and he is founder and CEO of This is Doing.com In a ‘previous life’, he was a musician and songwriter who released two albums under the moniker: Minus Circus and worked with 13-time

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The Jazz Process to innovation with Adrian Cho

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2021/09/15

Why do people tip up to six times more than they already have paid? How do people deal with adversity? What do Jazz and Business have in common? Today we are in Canada talking to Adrian Cho, ex-IBM consultant, book author, wildlife photographer, artistic director of the Ottawa Jazz Orchestra, bass player and creative director of syncspace. We talk about how a damaged muscle brought Adrian to the piano and later to software development and IT consulting. He shares with us how jazz thinking can

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52:22

Multi-sensory storytelling with Jasper Udink ten Cate

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2021/08/24

How can you tell a story through food and music? Are all chefs drummers? Should prominent leaders start a band together? In this episode, Creative Companion meets the Creative Chef. We have a lively conversation with Jasper Udink ten Cate, artist, designer, futurist, keynote speaker, book author and drummer. He worked worldwide on exhibitions like London Design Week, Dubai Design, Metropolitan Museum New York and the World Expo in Milano and for companies like Nike, BASF and Google. Jasper shares

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53:10

The Thrills of Business with Padraic McMahon

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2021/08/10

What are the similarities between the technology and the record industry? And what is situational leadership? In this episode, we connect with Padraic McMahon, Customer Success Manager at Hubspot, a software company that helps businesses grow. Padraic has worked in Management positions at Google and LinkedIn. Before that, he was the guitar player of The Thrills that had some major hits from 2003 on. Their first LP was going platinum in the UK and Ireland, and their top hit 'Big Sur' has more than 8

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56:02

Cross-pollination in leadership with Ilkka Mäkitalo

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2021/07/27

Can we be successful in more than one field? What about the multiple me’s we have developed in different areas? Today we are in Finland, my guest is Ilkka Mäkitalo - musician, teacher, CEO, Co-Founder of Howspace and Conductor of Jyvaskyla Big Band. We chat about instruments, jazz and how to inspire young talents to compose for a big band. And we talk about organisational memory, organisational learning, organisational dynamics and how to change the world with a digital platform for facilitating

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50:27

Music and the Brain with Artur Jaschke

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2021/07/12

Did you know that music can help you to rewire your brain? This episode is about the working of music on the brain and behaviour. My guest today is Artur Jaschke - neuromusicologist and professor for music-based therapies and interventions at the ArtEZ University of the Arts in Enschede and he also works at the neonatal intensive care at a hospital in Groningen, the Netherlands. We talk about how you can use music and sound for the advantage of healthcare, wellbeing and brain stimulation. We

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53:12

Deep listening with Sharon Stewart

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2021/06/29

This episode is about listening - deep listening. My guest today is Sharon Stewart - creator of sound works, musician, poet, researcher, piano teacher and deep listener. We learn about the Center for Deep Listening at Rensselaer and the retreats that were held by composer Pauline Oliveros and the many ways to listen, for example like listening in dreams, embodied listening and that deep listening is about doing, writing, practising and experiencing. We talk about text scores, guiding principles,

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56:35

Innovation patterns and improvisation in...

The Power of Music Thinking ·

2021/06/15

This episode is about Innovation patterns and improvisation in organisations. Today, my guest is Prof. Dr. Wolfgang Stark - teacher and researcher specialised in organisational and community psychology and visiting fellow at the Vrije Universiteit in Amsterdam. With natural sounds, like birds and wind in the background, we talk about how to co-create the sound of a company based on the processes of the organisation and how a jazz band can bring organisational scores to life. We also talk about the

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