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ABA Business Leaders

Join us as we dive deep into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring real-world challenges and practical strategies to improve the quality, ethics, and sustainability of ABA services. Hosted by April & Stephen, the team behind 3 Pie Squared, each episode brings actionable insights for practice owners, clinicians, and leaders in the field—whether you’re just getting started or scaling your business.Expect candid conversations, expert interviews, and honest advice about

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49:43

Real Talk for RBTs: Advocacy, Burnout & Better...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/06/26

🎙 Real Talk for RBTs: Advocacy, Burnout & Better WorkplacesWith special guests: Chris, Liz, and Rebecca from AByay!In this eye-opening episode, April and Stephen sit down with Chris, Liz, and Rebecca—the brilliant minds behind AByay!—to shine a spotlight on the people who keep the ABA field running: RBTs.From emotional fatigue to unclear expectations, we unpack what RBTs really experience and what needs to change to create better, healthier workplaces.They explore how RBTs can advocate for

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28:06

ABA News - Harnessing AI to understand Autism & More!

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/06/24

Welcome to the ABA Business Leaders News, the go-to show for aspiring and current ABA practice owners who want to keep up to date with the latest happenings in the world of ABA. Every week, your hosts April and Stephen Smith bring you actionable insights, news, and real-world advice to help you navigate the challenges and celebrate the wins of starting and running your own ABA practice.🗓️ Live Every Monday: We stream this podcast live in our exclusive Facebook group, where members can interact, ask

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65:09

Play is Productive!

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2025/06/19

🎙 ABA Business Leaders Podcast – Episode: Rest Is ProductiveIn this refreshingly honest episode, April and Stephen dig into something rarely talked about in ABA business and entrepreneurial circles: rest. From hobbies to mental incubation to joy at work, they explore how taking breaks—real, intentional ones—can actually drive better decision-making, creativity, and resilience as a practice owner.If you’ve been stuck in nonstop hustle mode or struggling to find space for yourself in the middle of

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33:09

ABA News - What Counts as Essential Services & More!

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/06/17

Welcome to the ABA Business Leaders News, the go-to show for aspiring and current ABA practice owners who want to keep up to date with the latest happenings in the world of ABA. Every week, your hosts April and Stephen Smith bring you actionable insights, news, and real-world advice to help you navigate the challenges and celebrate the wins of starting and running your own ABA practice.🗓️ Live Every Monday: We stream this podcast live in our exclusive Facebook group, where members can interact, ask

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60:08

How to Improve ABA Supervision with Allyson Wharam of...

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2025/06/12

ABA Business Leaders Podcast – Episode: How to Improve ABA Supervision with Allyson Wharam of ‘ABA in the Field’ In this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, April and Stephen sit down with Allyson Wharam of ‘ABA in the Field’ to dive deep into the challenges and opportunities around ABA supervision. Whether you’re a new BCBA stepping into a supervisory role or a seasoned leader looking to sharpen your skills, this conversation sheds light on how to build stronger, more effective supervision

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31:52

ABA News - Ransomware attacks, HIPAA Compliance & More!

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/06/10

Welcome to the ABA Business Leaders News, the go-to show for aspiring and current ABA practice owners who want to keep up to date with the latest happenings in the world of ABA. Every week, your hosts April and Stephen Smith bring you actionable insights, news, and real-world advice to help you navigate the challenges and celebrate the wins of starting and running your own ABA practice.🗓️ Live Every Monday: We stream this podcast live in our exclusive Facebook group, where members can interact, ask

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48:17

Ego Driven Hiring

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2025/06/05

🎙 ABA Business Leaders Podcast – Episode: Ego Driven HiringIn this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, April and Stephen tackle a topic that doesn’t get enough air time: the role of ego in the hiring process. Whether you’re building your first team or adding BCBAs to an existing staff, understanding how ego can shape (and sabotage) your decisions is key to building a healthy, sustainable practice.They unpack why trusting your gut is important, but also why you need to watch out for

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36:40

ABA News - Classifying BCBA's as 1099 Contractors &...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/06/03

Welcome to the ABA Business Leaders News, the go-to show for aspiring and current ABA practice owners who want to keep up to date with the latest happenings in the world of ABA. Every week, your hosts April and Stephen Smith bring you actionable insights, news, and real-world advice to help you navigate the challenges and celebrate the wins of starting and running your own ABA practice.🗓️ Live Every Monday: We stream this podcast live in our exclusive Facebook group, where members can interact, ask

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42:56

Clarity, Capacity, and Efficiency with Silna

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/05/29

🎙 ABA Business Leaders Podcast – Episode: Clarity, Capacity, and Efficiency with Silna HealthIn this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, April and Stephen are joined by Jeff Morelli, CEO of Silna Health, a company purpose-built for the complexities of billing for ABA services. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by prior authorizations, eligibility checks, or constant insurance back-and-forth, this is the episode for you.They break down how Silna’s Care Readiness Platform is streamlining

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45:46

Finding Joy in the Journey

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/05/22

🎙️ Finding Joy in the JourneyIn this episode, April and Stephen get into the joy of running an ABA business—specifically, how they’ve learned to rediscover and protect joy in the midst of operational stress, leadership demands, and daily challenges. Whether you're feeling burnout creep in or just looking for a spark of inspiration, this conversation is for you.They share personal values, practical mindset shifts, and intentional practices that have helped them reconnect with their "why" and bring

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40:28

3 Things We Thought Would Be Easier!

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/05/16

🎙️ 3 Things We Thought Would Be EasierIn this episode, April and Stephen pull back the curtain on the unexpected hurdles they've encountered while running an ABA practice. From creating workplace culture to navigating policy challenges, they break down three major aspects of the business they assumed would be smooth sailing—but turned out to be far more complex.You'll hear real-world lessons, reflections on common missteps, and practical strategies to navigate these challenges with clarity and

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46:28

Dealing with workplace drama!

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/05/09

Workplace conflict isn’t just frustrating—it can derail your ABA team's morale, productivity, and culture. In this episode of 3 Pie Squared – ABA Business Leaders, April and Stephen unpack what workplace “drama” really looks like, why it happens, and how ABA business owners can address it without letting it take over. They explore root causes like miscommunication, unclear expectations, burnout, favoritism, and gossip—while offering practical strategies for resolution and culture building. From

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43:20

Managing Stress and Saving our Sanity!

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/05/02

In this episode of 3 Pie Squared – ABA Business Leaders, April and Stephen sit down for a candid conversation about what’s keeping them grounded amidst the chaos of running a business. From using meditation to manage overwhelm to creating procedures for when no procedures exist, this conversation is full of relatable insights and sanity-saving strategies. They discuss how to create space between urgency and action, how to train staff on responding without panic, and why every ABA business owner

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66:40

Should a BCBA always own the clinic? Maybe not

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/04/25

In this episode of 3 Pie Squared – ABA Business Leaders, we’re diving into a question that stirs up passionate debate across the ABA field: Should a BCBA always own the clinic? Guest Jennifer Helten, founder of Unique Pathways, joins Stephen and April to explore why non-clinician ownership doesn’t mean lower quality—and how it might just be the key to a more balanced and sustainable ABA model. Jennifer brings her decades of experience to the table and shares her inspiring journey from nanny to

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58:15

Quality over Quantity- Is more supervision always...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/04/18

🎙️ Quality over Quantity: Is More Supervision Always Better? In this episode of 3 Pie Squared – ABA Business Leaders, April and Stephen explore a foundational question in ABA practice management: does more supervision always lead to better outcomes? Or is there a point where quantity starts to undercut quality? They discuss: Why micromanagement isn’t supervision—and when stepping back is best Strategies for aligning supervision intensity with client and staff needs The real costs of

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65:00

It's time to get real—ABA business owner burnout

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/04/11

In this raw and heartfelt episode of 3 Pie Squared – ABA Business Leaders, April and Stephen open up about a crucial topic that impacts many in the field: ABA business owner burnout. From long hours to emotional exhaustion, they share personal stories, explore the blurred line between burnout and depression, and challenge the culture of wearing burnout like a badge of honor. April leads a deep discussion about how burnout shows up behaviorally, the role of cynicism, and how business owners can

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58:40

Expanding to a Clinic? Do this first!

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/04/04

Thinking about expanding from in-home ABA services to opening your own clinic? Before you sign that lease or envision your dream sensory room, Stephen and April break down the real questions you need to ask first. In this episode of the 3 Pie Squared – ABA Business Leaders podcast, they share hard-earned lessons and practical insights on when — and if — a clinic is the right next step for your ABA practice. From financial forecasting and zoning laws to lease pitfalls and staff transitions, this

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51:59

The truth behind the client and staff cancellations

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/03/28

The Truth Behind Client and Staff Cancellations Client and staff cancellations are one of the most common — and frustrating — challenges in ABA practice management. In this episode of 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders, April and Stephen take a deep dive into the hidden patterns behind cancellations and how they impact everything from staff morale to medical necessity and insurance utilization. They explore how to shift your mindset from reactive frustration to proactive analysis by viewing

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71:54

Local Owner Highlight- When to scale your ABA Business

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/03/21

Local Owner Highlight – When to Scale Your ABA Business In this episode of ABA Business Leaders, we sit down with Chris Robinson, owner of ABYAY, and Maria Zito, director at ABYAY, to discuss the challenges and strategies behind scaling an ABA business. From leadership development to overcoming staffing hurdles, Chris and Maria share their journey, including key insights on when and how to expand sustainably. Key topics include: ✅ Building and strengthening a leadership team ✅ Managing rapid staff

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72:33

Understanding the journey- Improving caregiver...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/03/14

In this episode of 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders, we welcome Melanie Thurston, a critical care nurse, author, and dedicated mother to a child with autism. Melanie shares her personal journey navigating the challenges of raising a child with autism, balancing professional life, and building strong caregiver relationships. She discusses the importance of supporting parents during the ABA intake process, reducing barriers for caregivers, and fostering collaboration between ABA providers and

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