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Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

Kevin Kauffman and Fred Weaver

Interviews from the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry. We cover topics like Investing, listings, buyers, brokerage, technology, entrepreneurship and so much more. Brought to you by KevinandFred.com

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27:43

Real Estate Agent Personal Branding: How to Stop...

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2025/08/14

Ever wonder why some agents thrive no matter what the market throws at them while others struggle to stay afloat? The secret isn't in their lead generation or closing techniques—it's in something most agents completely ignore: building a personal brand so strong it works harder than any market condition.In this game-changing episode, my business partner Katie DeWitt sits down with marketing powerhouse Carly Pederson to expose the personal branding strategies that separate next-level agents from

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12:42

Why We Don't Follow Models, Even When We Know They Work

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2025/08/11

You know what works. The phone calls, the follow-up systems, the prospecting schedules that successful agents swear by. So why don't you do them?In this raw and honest solo episode, Kevin breaks down the psychology behind self-sabotage using insights from his business partner Chris Suarez. This isn't about finding new strategies - it's about understanding why you avoid the strategies that already work. Key Topics Covered: The 10 psychological barriers that keep agents from following

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19:44

Stop Making Excuses About Prospecting

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2025/08/07

Most agents think quality prospecting should take 8-10 hours a day. They're wrong, and this limiting belief is costing them deals, momentum, and market share. Michelle Early, Director of Growth for Apex Real Estate (one of the top teams in the nation), reveals how two agents completed 20 quality real estate conversations in just over an hour—and why this breakthrough is separating winners from wishful thinkers in today's market. This isn't about working harder. It's about shattering the mental

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50:59

Thinking About a 50-50 Real Estate Partnership? Avoid...

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2025/08/04

What if everything you think you know about business partnerships in real estate is wrong?When successful agent Erik Kelly brought his partnership question to our mastermind, it sparked a deep dive into one of the most critical scaling decisions in real estate. Together with Katie DeWitt and Brittini Bowers, we explored the real motivations behind partnership desires and uncovered strategic alternatives that most agents never consider. This wasn't just theoretical discussion - it was three

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26:51

Why your real estate marketing content gets ignored...

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2025/07/31

The marketing game has completely changed, and most real estate agents are still playing by the old rules. In this episode, EK sits down with Wendy Forsythe, Chief Marketing Officer of eXp Realty, to uncover why "perfect" marketing content is actually making agents invisible, and what's working instead. Wendy reveals her revolutionary "power of the scroll" concept that's transforming how top agents build mindshare that converts to market share. From the death of AI-generated content to the rise

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42:41

Lessons Learned That Kept Me From Killing My Real...

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2025/07/28

Most real estate couples who work together end up resenting each other, burning out, and watching their relationships crumble under constant shop talk and blurred boundaries. But what if there's a completely different approach that actually strengthens your marriage while building a real estate empire?My business partners Katie DeWitt and Brittini Bowers dive deep into the reality of successfully working with your spouse in real estate. Brittini and her husband Chris have cracked the code on

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24:34

Volume Prospecting is Dead: How Going a Mile Deep...

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2025/07/24

The real estate industry has been feeding agents a lie about prospecting success. While everyone obsesses over contact numbers and call quotas, the agents who are truly winning have thrown the volume playbook out the window. Houston-area agent Brandon Snyder scaled from new agent to over $20 million in production by focusing on one revolutionary approach: going a mile deep with human connection instead of wide with generic outreach. His team is having their best year since 2022, and it's not

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20:28

10 Hard Truths for Real Estate Team Leaders

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2025/07/21

Most real estate team leaders are avoiding the uncomfortable truths that could transform their businesses overnight. They're stuck in cycles of mediocrity, tiptoeing around the very conversations and actions that separate empire builders from order takers.In this powerful solo episode, Kevin Kauffman shares 10 battlefield-tested principles that determine whether you build a culture of high performers or a revolving door of excuses. These aren't feel-good platitudes - they're hard truths that

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48:22

Why Real Estate Agents Never Retire (And the 5...

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2025/07/17

Real estate agents don't retire—they expire. It's a harsh reality that most of us know but rarely discuss. When was the last time you attended a real estate agent's retirement party? Exactly.In this episode, Kevin Kauffman sits down with financial coach and transformation expert Matt Plumer to expose the brutal truth about why most agents never escape the transaction treadmill—and more importantly, how to build a real exit strategy. Matt shares his incredible personal transformation story,

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28:29

How to Turn Your Biggest Competitors Into Your Best...

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2025/07/14

What if your biggest competitors became your biggest referral sources? Most agents would rather delete fellow agents from their database than risk "helping the competition." Katie DeWitt did the exact opposite and built a referral empire that generates multiple six figures annually.In this game-changing episode, Katie reveals the counterintuitive strategies that made her the go-to agent for competitors across her entire market. She shares why abundance thinking beats scarcity mindset every time,

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21:06

Stop Blaming the Market: How 20 Connects Per Day...

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2025/07/10

While most agents are complaining about interest rates and market conditions, Matt Chick's team is absolutely crushing it with 32 pending transactions and 45 prequalified buyers in the pipeline. Same market. Same challenges. Completely different results.Matt joins Erik Kelly to expose the brutal truth about market excuses and reveal the systematic approach that creates consistent success regardless of external conditions. This isn't about waiting for better times—it's about building a machine

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41:32

Why 'Verbal Violence' Is Sabotaging Your Real Estate...

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2025/07/07

Most real estate agents think they're great communicators—after all, we talk for a living. But what if the way you're speaking to clients, team members, and partners is actually destroying your potential for success?Communication expert Micah Salaberrios joins Katie DeWitt to expose the hidden "verbal violence" that's costing agents deals, relationships, and their sanity. This isn't about being "nice" or politically correct—it's about wielding communication like a precision tool that gets you

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23:39

Why Most Real Estate Agents Are Lazy (And How to...

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2025/07/03

The brutal truth about today's real estate market isn't what most agents think. While everyone complains about how "hard" things are, a select group of agents are absolutely crushing it. Same market, same challenges, completely different results.In this raw conversation, Kevin Kauffman (the original Next Level Agents host) drops uncomfortable truths about why most agents are still struggling and exactly what the winners are doing differently. This isn't feel-good motivation—it's real talk about

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27:48

Proven Real Estate Scripts and Strategies from...

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2025/06/30

Real estate isn't a transaction business. It's a relationship business disguised as transactions. And if you're still chasing deals instead of building authentic connections, you're working way harder than you need to.Will Carter proves this better than anyone. After 30 years in the business, he's cracked the code on building sustainable success through genuine relationships, creative problem-solving, and showing up as himself (not as a salesperson). His approach challenges everything you think

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69:33

Choose Your Hard

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2025/06/26

What if everything you've been taught about "working hard" in real estate is actually keeping you trapped? In this unfiltered bestie episode, Kevin Kauffman, Nolan Rucker, and Chris Bowers dive deep into the uncomfortable truths about building a real estate business that works without you.This isn't your typical "hustle harder" conversation. Instead, it's a raw exploration of why being busy has become the enemy of being profitable, and how choosing the right kind of hard can set you free instead

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23:18

How 400 Handwritten Cards Monthly Built a Real Estate...

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2025/06/23

What if the secret to dominating your market wasn't another tech platform or lead generation system, but something as simple as a handwritten card with a $10 Starbucks gift card? Katie Gillespie from Fernley, Nevada proves that authentic relationship-building still crushes every digital marketing strategy out there.Katie doesn't just talk about gratitude – she weaponizes it. With 75 units sold and $28 million in production last year, she's the #2 agent in Nevada and top 66 at eXp. Her secret? A

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25:10

The Three Ps of Selling Success Every Agent Must Master

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2025/06/19

While most real estate agents are cutting marketing budgets and playing it safe, Becky Kennard's Desert Luxe team is doing the exact opposite—and their results are staggering. In just two years, they've transformed from a 90% buyer-heavy business to a perfectly balanced, $100+ million producing empire that's literally doubling in size.Their secret? Strategic investment when others are paralyzed by fear. From spending $1,500 monthly on listing advertising to delivering luxury service regardless

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26:00

Are You Building Wealth or Just Buying Yourself a...

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2025/06/16

Most real estate agents think they're building businesses, but they're actually creating very expensive jobs that own them instead of serving them. In this game-changing conversation, business coach Erica Thau reveals the strategic shifts that separate agents who build wealth from those who just stay busy.After 22 years in the industry and building a number one brokerage during the 2006 crash, Erica shares the exact systems and mindset changes that help agents work strategically instead of just

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27:01

The Real Estate Agent's Exit Strategy (Why You Need a...

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2025/06/12

When was the last time you went to a real estate agent's retirement party? If you're drawing a blank, you're not alone—most agents never actually retire. They're still taking listings on the way to their funeral.Financial coach Matt Plumer went from $500,000 in debt to complete financial freedom, and his journey reveals why 99% of real estate agents are trapped in a cycle that will never lead to true wealth. His story will challenge everything you think you know about building wealth as an

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47:31

Why Real Estate Agents Stay Stuck: Breaking Free From...

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2025/06/09

Most real estate agents say they want growth, but they're actually committed to emotions that keep them stuck. In this raw conversation, Kevin Kauffman sits down with top-performing coach Dustin Runyon to explore the uncomfortable truths about what it really takes to break through to your next level.This isn't another strategy session about lead generation or marketing tactics. It's about the internal work that separates agents who plateau from those who build empires. If you've been saying you

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