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Tinfoil Swans

Food & Wine has led the conversation around food, drinks, and hospitality in America and around the world since 1978. Tinfoil Swans continues that legacy with a new series of intimate, informative, surprising, and uplifting conversations with the biggest names in the culinary industry, sharing never-before-heard stories about the successes, struggles, and fork-in-the-road moments that made them who they are today. Each week, you"ll hear from icons and innovators like Daniel Boulud, Guy Fieri,

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36:29

Joel McHale and the Spiced Steak Fantasy

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2024/11/12

You may know Joel McHale from his star turns on beloved shows like Community, The Soup, or Animal Control, his standup special Live From Pyongyang, or as host of House of Villains and Crime Scene Kitchen. Chefs know him from their nightmares — or rather as the menacing chef David Fields on The Bear. He's also a very talented cook, especially in the realm of meat. McHale joined Tinfoil Swans to talk about working at a coffee stand in his teens, crappy tippers, what he thinks about men who don’t do

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50:39

“Bitchy Waiter" Darron Cardosa and the Tipping Conundrum

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2024/11/05

Since 2008, actor and writer Darron Cardosa has been setting the internet ablaze with his pioneering blog "The Bitchy Waiter" — which he has since spun into a rollicking book and stage show of the same name. Darron is also one of Food & Wine's most prolific and popular writers, and in this inspiring and emotional conversation, he shares his feelings about weird customer requests, being a voice for the service industry, his upcoming movie, and why it's so rude to leave a penny tip.For more info

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49:14

Bobby Flay and the Review That Made His Career

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2024/10/29

Bobby Flay has been a fixture on Food Network since the beginning, written 18 cookbooks, and is pretty much a household name. But the thing that gets lost in the sauce is that he's a James Beard Award-winning restaurant chef who changed the restaurant scene in some bold and groundbreaking ways. He joined Tinfoil Swans to talk about his new book Chapter 1, his rules for visitors, being competitive, and why a tiny chef coat made him cry.For more info visit: foodandwine.com/tinfoilswans Learn more

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41:47

Tom Holland and the Sticky Pork Buns

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2024/10/22

When Tom Holland's parents enrolled him in dance classes as a kid, no one could have dreamed he'd end up as an international superstar, internet icon, and entrepreneur — and he still has to pinch himself to believe it. The Spider-Man actor joined Tinfoil Swans to talk about some horrible lamb shanks he'd cooked, his favorite pizza place, getting sober, and his grand hopes for his new nonalcoholic brand, Bero. For more info visit: foodandwine.com/tinfoilswans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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45:20

Dolly Parton, Rachel Parton George, and the Dumplings...

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2024/10/15

Dolly Parton is an American icon for all the right reasons. She's always been unabashedly herself, employing that authenticity, work ethic, humor, talent, and grace to make enduring art — and use her hard-earned platform and cash to support causes dear to her heart. She and her sister, Rachel Parton George, recently co-authored the cookbook Good Lookin' Cookin' and joined Tinfoil Swans for a rollicking chat about being proud of where you're from, eating bear and squirrel meat, feeling insecure in

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46:16

Yotam Ottolenghi and the Story of Comfort

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2024/10/08

Chef and author Yotam Ottolenghi is internationally beloved for his joyful and accessible approach to fresh ingredients in his restaurants, and also in his recipes for home cooks. The self-described "greedy little boy" from Jerusalem shares how he found his way out of academia and into kitchens; the ways he's trying not to be a nervous parent; and why now more than ever, he believes everyone should find comfort in food — no matter where you come from. For more info visit:

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54:52

Kylie Kwong and the Five Glass Ghosts

Tinfoil Swans ·

2024/10/01

When chef Kylie Kwong announced that she was going to be shuttering her destination dining spot Lucky Kwong to take on a new role at the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, working at the intersection of food, community, and education to honor the people and foods that have made Australian cuisine so distinctive and precious — it made sense. Kwong has always centered humanity in everything she does, including this raw and astonishing conversation about cooking for a first date, valuing the wisdom of

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61:30

Your Korean Dad Nick Cho and the Banana Peel on the...

Tinfoil Swans ·

2024/09/24

Nick Cho is beloved by millions for his empathetic and affirming "Your Korean Dad" videos on TikTok and Instagram, but the real-life coffee expert and entrepreneur is so much more than the character he plays online. Cho joined Tinfoil Swans for a robust conversation on growing up in a place you're not wanted, the fallacy of "good" people vs "bad" people, what American food actually IS, the role of authenticity, his brand-new coffee venture, and why bad Korean barbecue doesn't get a pass from him

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41:08

Christine D'Ercole and the Bing Cherry Revelation

Tinfoil Swans ·

2024/09/17

Christine D'Ercole is a legendary competitive cyclist, compelling public speaker, and fan-favorite Peloton instructor. That's in part because of her intense and often New Wave and Goth-playlisted classes, but also because she loves to cook and savor incredible meals, and share frank talk about complicated emotions around bodies and aging and exercise. She joined Tinfoil Swans for an intimate and uplifting conversation about body image, life-changing restaurant meals, her wild career as a bike

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59:49

Raphael Brion and the Road to the 2024 Best New Chefs

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2024/09/10

Food & Wine's restaurant editor Raphael Brion talks about the tremendous impact that the Best New Chefs accolade has had on people's careers, why each member of the 2024 class was selected, his time working in New York City kitchens, the time Anthony Bourdain gave him a paper bag full of $100 dollar bills, and what it does to the human body when you spend months on the road eating nonstop.For more info visit: foodandwine.com/tinfoilswans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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35:06

Ti Martin and the Hospitality Revolution

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2024/09/03

Ti Martin — along with her cousin and co-proprietor, Lally Brennan — is ensuring that the family's 131-year-old New Orleans restaurant Commander's Palace is living up to its legacy and moving into the future. At the Food & Wine Classic in Aspen this past June, Ti joined Tinfoil Swans for a spirited conversation about kicking down doors, the gift and responsibility that comes with running an iconic family business, why hospitality and service are NOT the same thing, and how to get people dancing in

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27:32

Cheetie Kumar and the No Billy Joel Rule

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2024/08/27

Cheetie Kumar is — by pretty much everyone's accounts — one of the coolest people ever. At the 2024 Food & Wine Classic in Aspen, the Raleigh-based chef, restaurateur, and Birds of Avalon guitarist made time for a quick chat about how she had to rethink restaurants through Covid, created the structure of her new restaurant to make sure it benefitted the neighborhood and the people who work there, the joy of introducing new flavors to a population that maybe hadn't experienced them before, and the

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38:03

Channing Frye and the Problem With Perfection.

Tinfoil Swans ·

2024/08/20

Former NBA powerhouse turned winemaker Channing Frye nerds out about moving from slap the bag to the nuances of terroir, what it's really like to drink baller wine on the team jet, and how therapy got him out of his depression sweatpantsFor more info visit: foodandwine.com/tinfoilswans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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42:43

Priya Krishna and the Perfectly Translucent Onions

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2024/08/13

When Priya Krishna was a little kid — a blob, as she calls herself — she started traveling the whole world with her family because her mom worked in the airline industry. As it turns out, the wildly successful reporter, author, and video host had a truly wild and wonderful journey ahead. Though it wasn't public at the time this was recorded, she was also about to be tapped as interim restaurant critic at the New York Times. Right before going on tour for her brilliant new kids cookbook Priya's

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61:57

David Chang and the Face Full of Wasps

Tinfoil Swans ·

2024/08/06

Recorded live onstage at the Food & Wine Classic in Aspen: David Chang Unfiltered — and with a face full of wasp stings. The notoriously opinionated chef shares some raw talk about the chili crunch controversy, failure, living life under a microscope, Guy Fieri (spoiler alert — they're BFFs now), and why people are so weird about microwaves.For more info visit: foodandwine.com/tinfoilswans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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55:57

Pete Wells and the Suitcase Full of Sausage

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2024/07/30

Outgoing New York Times restaurant critic Pete Wells gets personal with his longtime friend about his path from high school cheerleader to college dropout to the pages of Sassy magazine — all the way to the most prestigious critic's seat in the country. Plus, he's got a little challenge for Thomas Keller.For more info visit: foodandwine.com/tinfoilswans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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41:45

Encore: Gregory Gourdet and the Epic Swim

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2024/07/23

In this episode, executive features editor Kat Kinsman gets raw with Gregory Gourdet. You might know him from "Top Chef," "Iron Chef," or playing himself on "Portlandia." You might be a fan of his cookbook "Everyone's Table: Global Recipes for Modern Health." Perhaps you've read Korsha Wilson's profile of him in the August issue of Food & Wine or spent months scheming to get into his James Beard Award-winning Portland restaurant Kann. Gregory Gourdet is — and should be — at the forefront of

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53:06

Kevin Gillespie and the Restaurant of a Lifetime

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2024/07/16

There's a good chance you know chef and author Kevin Gillespie from his fan-favorite stint on Season 6 of Top Chef or his return on the All Stars Season 20, but the Georgia native's talent can't be reduced to the small screen. His new Atlanta restaurant, Nàdair, is a full-throated love letter to his Scottish heritage — something Gillespie's family had always been made to feel ashamed of. But in the aftermath of renal cancer, doctors begging him to retire, and the loss of multiple family members in

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51:32

Asma Khan and the Dream of Pirates

Tinfoil Swans ·

2024/07/09

Chef Asma Khan is a bolt of lightning to the senses. Born a second daughter, she felt dismissed by society, but Asma Khan has always known her worth. With her restaurant Darjeeling Express in London, she takes pride in her all-women staff, cooking food they'd serve at home. Her contributions to the culinary world were recognized on the Time 100 list of people who are deeply influential in the world and she was featured in an episode of Chef's Table. Khan spoke with Tinfoil Swans about how change

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51:14

Will Poulter, Dave Beran, and The Bear

Tinfoil Swans ·

2024/07/02

Season 3 of the smash hit FX/Hulu show “The Bear” roared to life just days ago, but Will Poulter (the actor who plays fan-favorite Luca) and 2014 F&W Best New Chef Dave Beran had been prepping for weeks. Poulter — like his co-star Jeremy Allen White — staged with Beran at his Santa Monica restaurant Pasjoli to learn how to accurately portray a professional chef onscreen. The lessons went so well, Beran says he’d hire Poulter as a cook — even despite a messy mishap with a pastry bag. The two dished

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