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Mind Over Murder

William F. Thomas and Kristin M. Dilley

Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim"s advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive who is also the brother of a murder victim, now living in Connecticut. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. They

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42:39

NEW: The Zodiac Killer with Michael Butterfield (Part 1)

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2025/05/12

Michael Butterfield, author of "The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's Most Elusive Murderer," joins "Mind Over Murder" cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new book, his longtime research into the still unsolved Zodiac case, and his website, ZodiacKillerFacts.com. Will Zodiac ever be identified? Will the remaining Zodiac ciphers be solved? Are there really similarities between the Zodiac case and the Colonial Parkway Murders?Amazon: The Zodiac Killer: The Story of America's

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38:24

BONUS: Help Save the Next Girl (Part 1)

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2025/05/09

Dan Harrington, Gil Harrington and Jane Lillian Vance, founders of "Help Save the Next Girl," join us to discuss the good work of their organization, founded after the brutal murder of Dan and Gil's 20 year old daughter Morgan Harrington in October 2009. We talk about the book that Gil and Jane co-wrote, "Morgan Harrington Murdered Dead and for Good: A Mother's Quest to Find a Serial Killer and Healing," as well as missing persons cases in Virginia, dealing with profound grief, and healing through

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29:44

NEW: American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders w...

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2025/05/05

"Mind Over Murder" podcast host Bill Thomas asks retired Virginia State Police Special Agent Danny Plott questions regarding Joe Kenda's "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network. Are Joe Kenda and Danny Plott on the right track to help solve this case of serial murder? This is part 2 of 2 parts of our interview with Danny Plott in the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders.American Detective: Colonial Parkway

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52:07

BONUS: The Book of Murder w Prosecutor Matt Murphy

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2025/05/01

Matt Murphy, renowned California prosecutor and now legal analyst for ABC News, joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new "The Book of Murder: A Prosecutors Journey Through Love and Death." In this deep dive into murder and its aftermath, Matt walks readers through some of the most complex and diabolical cases from his career in the Orange County District Attorney's Office. He describes how, despite the work wreaking havoc on his personal life, he ultimately

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33:51

NEW: American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders w...

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2025/04/28

"Mind Over Murder" podcast host Bill Thomas asks retired Virginia State Police Special Agent Danny Plott questions regarding Joe Kenda's "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network. Are Joe Kenda and Danny Plott on the right track to help solve this case of serial murder? This is part 1 of 2 parts of our interview with Danny Plott in the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders.American Detective: Colonial Parkway

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41:27

BONUS: Heidi Childs/David Metzler Murders: 15 Years...

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2025/04/26

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley review the August 2009 murders of Virginia Tech students Heidi Childs and David Metzler, still unsolved after 15 years. Can advanced DNA techniques solve this tragic case of two undergrads found shot to death in a place called Caldwell Fields? How has the Virginia Tech community been touched so many times by senseless violence? Where does the Childs/Metzler investigation go from here? This bonus episode of Mind Over Murder originally ran on

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45:41

NEW: Ask Us Anything in American Detective (Part 2)

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2025/04/21

"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley reply to an "Ask Us Anything" series of listener questions regarding Joe Kenda's "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network. This is part 1 of our "Ask Us Anything" on the American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders.American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock

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48:08

BONUS: Dark Tide: Growing Up w/ Ted Bundy

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2025/04/19

Edna Cowell Martin, cousin to serial killer Ted Bundy, joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book, cowritten with Megan Atkinson, "Dark Tide: Growing Up With Ted Bundy." How well do we really know the people around us? What would you do if you learned your family's secrets? Are their truly monsters among us? Join us for a fascinating conversation. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on September 30, 2024."Dark Tide: Growing Up With

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48:15

NEW: Ask Us Anything in American Detective (Part 1)

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2025/04/14

"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley reply to an "Ask Us Anything" series of listener questions regarding Joe Kenda's "American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders" TV special on the Investigation Discovery network.American Detective: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock

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41:49

BONUS: That Beast Was Not Me: Five Decades of...

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2025/04/11

Jeffrey Smalldon talks with "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley about his new book, "That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Fifty Years of Conversations with Killers." He recounts his many face to face conversations with murderers like John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, serial sniper Thomas Lee Dillon, Donald Harvey, Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme and many others. This is Part 2 of 2 parts with Jeffrey Smalldon, and this bonus episode originally ran on October 14,

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45:20

NEW: Chowchilla Kidnapping w FBI Profiler Jim Clemente

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2025/04/07

"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley meet with former FBI Profiler (and producer and writer) Jim Clemente to discuss the parole process for the 3 men convicted in mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California. The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in United States history, shocked the nation in 1976. Should the 3 kidnappers have served longer? How was the trauma of the 26 young victims taken into account if at

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45:07

BONUS: That Beast Was Not Me: Five Decades of...

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2025/04/05

Jeffrey Smalldon talks with "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley about his new book, "That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Fifty Years of Conversations with Killers." He recounts his many face to face conversations with murderers like John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, serial sniper Thomas Lee Dillon, Donald Harvey, Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme and many others. This is Part 1 of 2 parts with Jeffrey Smalldon, and originally ran on October 7, 2024.Jeffrey Smalldon

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47:25

NEW: Chowchilla Kidnap Parole w Prosecutor Matt Murphy

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2025/03/31

"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley meet with retired prosecutor Matt Murphy to discuss the parole process for the 3 men convicted in mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California. The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in United States history, shocked the nation in 1976. How does the California parole system work? What impact did the kidnapping have on the 26 survivors? Why were the three kidnappers ultimately

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48:05

BONUS: Victim F: From Crime Victims to Suspects to...

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2025/03/29

Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss their book, co-written with Nicole Weisensee Egan, "Victim F: From Crime Victims to Suspects to Survivors," which tells the shocking true story of their bizarre 2015 kidnapping and the revictimization by the justice system in Vallejo, California, where investigators refused to believe their story until it proved to be completely true. Denise and Aaron's story was featured in a hit 2024 Netflix

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45:20

NEW: Chowchilla Mass Kidnapping Case

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2025/03/24

"Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the mass kidnapping of 26 elementary school students and their bus driver in rural Chowchilla, California. The crime, the largest mass kidnapping in United States history, shocked the nation in 1976. How did three rich kids plan and execute this heinous crime? Why did their plans fall apart so quickly? What impact did the kidnapping have on the 26 survivors? Why were the three kidnappers ultimately paroled?"Chowchilla"

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41:07

BONUS: Avoiding Missing Persons Scams with Already...

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2025/03/20

Nina Innsted, host of the "Already Gone" podcast and the "Missing in Michigan" Facebook page joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss why some missing persons posts on social media turn out to be scams, why fake notices like these hurt real efforts to find missing people, and how to avoid these scams. Why do people run scams like this? What can families of missing people do to let people know their posts are legitimate? How can we avoid such scams? Join us for a

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43:47

NEW: Blood in the Water w Casey Sherman

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2025/03/17

New York Times bestselling author Casey Sherman joins Mind Over Murder hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new true crime book, "Blood in the Water: The Untold Story of a Family Tragedy." The book tells the amazing true mystery of Nathan Carman, who was accused of both killing his mother on a family fishing trip in the North Atlantic, as well as being suspected of shooting his multimillionaire grandfather to death, all in pursuit of wealth and power. The book launches on April 8,

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36:22

BONUS: Inside the Isabella Stewart Gardner Art Heist...

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2025/03/13

Longtime Boston Globe reporter Stephen Kurkjian joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about his book, "Master Thieves: The Boston Gangsters Who Pulled Off the World's Greatest Art Heist." This is Part 1 of our discussion with Steve about the 1990 theft of 13 masterworks taken from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, still not recovered after 34 years. This bonus report originally ran on May 2, 2024.Master Thieves The Boston Gangsters Who Pulled Off the World's

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47:27

NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders Update March 2025

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2025/03/10

Join "Mind Over Murder" podcast co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley for a case update on the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia. More than a year has gone by since the FBI and Virginia State Police announced in January 2024 that Robin Edwards and David Knobling had been killed by Lancaster, Virginia waterman Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr, and that Wilmer's DNA also tied him to the 1989 murder of Teresa Howell. How does this suspect, who died in 2017, connect to the other Colonial Parkway Murders?

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34:41

BONUS: Inside the Isabella Stewart Gardner Art Heist...

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2025/03/06

Longtime Boston Globe reporter Stephen Kurkjian joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about his book, "Master Thieves: The Boston Gangsters Who Pulled Off the World's Greatest Art Heist." This is Part 1 of our discussion with Steve about the 1990 theft of 13 masterworks taken from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, still not recovered after 34 years. This bonus report originally ran on April 29, 2024.Master Thieves The Boston Gangsters Who Pulled Off the World's

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