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Radical Sacred

Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke

Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core

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43:40

Pilgrimage Can Be a Real Trip with Rev. Kerra English

Radical Sacred ·

2024/12/04

We are thrilled to have Reverend Kerra English, spiritual director, retreat leader, pastor, and a no bullshit guide join us today to talk about the many pathways of pilgrimage. In this invitational and thoughtful conversation Kerra talks to us about leading with curiosity, recognizing when things need to shift, and all the ways that pilgrimage is really about opening your eyes, your heart and your mind, to the world around you. When we are invited into new ways of knowing whether it be through a

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48:07

Keep Your Fork with Rev. Ashley Anne Sipe

Radical Sacred ·

2024/11/27

This week we are thankful for this gorgeous conversation with Rev. Ashley Anne Sipe of Vista Ridge UMC! Ashley Anne walks us through her own pilgrimage which began with an honest conversation and call out from a fellow clergy woman. This thoughtful invitation is about learning to walk in our own darkness, the truly radical practice of loving all that is, and the deeply intimate connection that only comes with vulnerability. We are grateful for Ashley Anne and for her reminder in these wild times to

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41:25

Pilgrimage in the Prepositions

Radical Sacred ·

2024/11/20

In this conversation we explore Phil's recent experience at Princeton, focusing on the importance of grounding oneself in nature and the significance of understanding one's purpose. We talk about the need for beauty and play in life, especially during challenging times, and the importance of creating spaces for risk-taking and personal growth. We talk about calling through the lens of prepostions: called by, called to, called with, and called away from as a bonus. Some of the people referenced in

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67:38

The Journey from Fiction to Non-Fiction with Rob Bell

Radical Sacred ·

2024/11/13

Rob Bell joins us today in this post election haze. His hopeful and honest insight is sooooo good. Rob talks to us about pilgrimage and books 1 and 2 of his imaginative, beautiful series - Where’d You Park Your Spaceship. We are beyond grateful to share space with this fabulous author, speaker, thinker, and artist! You can find Rob Bell’s work, including his podcast, The Robcast, on Patreon. We begin and end this episode with Mary Oliver’s poem Instructions for Living a Life.Chapters00:00 Navigating

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62:09

From Scotland to Home: Bridging Pilgrimage...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/11/06

“One pilgrim makes a zealot, two pilgrims makes a pilgrimage” - Ted LassoRev. Alexa Eisenbarth, Associate Pastor of First Olympia UMC joins us today to talk about how her own personal pilgrimage to Scotland translated to her walking with her fellow pilgrims in her home of Olympia, WA and the importance of not going it alone. What do we learn when we go out walking long distances with others? And what can we learn from pilgrimage about the importance of rhythm, care, and rest both individually and in

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30:54

Pilgrimage Begins with The Door

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/30

An important part of pilgrimage is noticing the invitations that are all around us. Every pilgrimage begins with recognizing. What is inviting you to more of you and how can we recognize the doors that are for us. As you move through the world the next couple of weeks we wanted to give you practical advice on how to identify your own doors. Try 1 or 2 of these spiritual practices consistently and see what comes up for you in this time. Journal for a few minutes every day. Start off simply - roses,

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62:27

The Journey to Integration using Internal Family...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/23

Hillary Owen of Driftwood Healing joins us again today inviting us to journey inward as she shares about Internal Family Systems. Hillary takes a complex topic like IFS and makes it easy by using imagery and storytelling. We learn that we all have different parts that make up our Internal Family Systems. All of our parts are inherently good but not all of our parts need to have the same authority in our lives. Hillary helps us journey through the expired behavior that is no longer serving us and

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49:08

Ty Pierce's Pilgrimage Journey on the Pacific Crest...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/16

This week we are thrilled to journey alongside Ty Pierce as he shares about his Pacific Crest Trail hike. Ty walks us through how a resolution to spend 15 nights outdoors and to seek out adventure led him to quitting his corporate job, and ultimately hitting a 2,650 mile trail spanning 3 states, Mexico, and Canada with an acquaintance who would turn into a best friend. Ty’s pilgrimage on the PCT was rigorous and pain filled. It also brought him profound joy, connections to many people he met on the

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33:39

Jenny's Gulf Coast Pilgrimage

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/09

Being folks who are typically more comfortable talking about things than actually doing the things, it was important to us to both take time this season to go on pilgrimages both big and small. In this episode Jenny reflects on her favorite place to pilgrimage, Galveston, TX. Jenny shares about what makes the Gulf Coast a sacred space for her and we invite folks into reflecting on their own sacred spaces. Going on your own pilgrimage soon and unsure of where to start? Here’s some gentle suggestions

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54:41

Pilgrimage to self, and each other, with Kelly and Jess

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/02

Krista Tippet says “learning to love is the longest pilgrimage of our lives.” We are thrilled to welcome Kelly Slaven and Jessica Brazzeal of The Haven Wellness Center to share with us about their pilgrimage of love.Kelly and Jess share with us about coming out, finding love with one another, and building a life that feels authentic and true to them, together. We love a good love story at Radical Sacred and Jess and Kelly's is one we can’t wait for you to hear! It can be scary to allow your life to

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48:46

Pilgrimage with Karen Couch - It's Your Camino

Radical Sacred ·

2024/09/25

Phil and Jenny are thrilled today to speak with Karen Couch about the pilgrimage of walking the Camino de Santiago! Karen is an outdoor enthusiast, Enneagram 6, and co-founder of Elevate Outdoor Adventures. Karen talks to us today about her passion for encouraging women in the outdoors and her experiences of being a pilgrim on the Camino de Santiago. Karen’s love for nature is rooted in her upbringing and her excitement and love for the journey is infectious. Here’s the cool stuff we mentioned

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49:54

The Pilgrimage of Labyrinth with Rev. Cindy Serio

Radical Sacred ·

2024/09/18

This week we have their minds blown by Rev. Cindy Serio of Mosaic Spiritual Formation Ministry! Rev. Cindy walks us through the ancient, circuitous path of labyrinths. Why we walk them, how we connect to self and others through this spiritual tool, and how we can begin to view this centuries old pathway as a womb. For as many people as there are on earth, so are there ways to walk the labyrinth. Explore the pilgrimage of labyrinths further by using the Labyrinth Locator to find a route near

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71:24

Rev. Todd Seelau's Pilgrimage With and Beyond the Church

Radical Sacred ·

2024/09/11

In this week's episode we have the honor of interviewing Rev. Todd Silau about pilgrimage and his unique approach to ministry. We discuss the concept of pilgrimage and how it relates to being on the move and being a stranger in a new place. We also explore the idea of deconstructed ecclesiology and the importance of being a good guest when engaging with different communities.Todd shares his experiences of being on the road with his band and how it has shaped his understanding of pilgrimage. He

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37:22

The Power of Pilgrimage: An Introduction to Season...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/09/04

Welcome to Season Two of Radical Sacred. This season we'll be exploring pilgrimage.In this kickoff to Season Two, Phil Dieke reflects on his experience of going on a pilgrimage to Northern Ireland with Brian McLaren and Gareth Higgins. Jenny and Phil explore the concept of pilgrimage and its significance in personal and spiritual growth. They discusses the importance of journeying within oneself and the need for intentional exploration and self-discovery. As well as highlighting the role of

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31:30

Father's Day Special

Radical Sacred ·

2024/06/16

On this week’s special episode Phil and Jenny share memories and stories about their dads. Father’s Day can be a mixed bag for so many of us for so many different reasons. If your day feels complicated or heavy with grief you are not alone! We invite you to find joy where it can be found, to grieve however you may need to, and to do one small thing today that makes you feel connected to yourself, to God, and to those you love. Connect with us on instagram at Radical Sacred to let us know your

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40:48

A Time to Reflect...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/05/29

Thank you for hanging with us for this first season! Phil and Jenny reflect on the last 25 episodes of Radical Sacred! Did you have a favorite episode or guest? We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us on Instagram.As we look forward to having some time to rest and reflect this summer this episode features conversations about where we’re finding hope and inspiration in podcasts, music, and books. If you love very random playlists that include music from Zach Bryan to Outkast to Ani Difranco to

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53:56

Transformation over Information: A Discussion on...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/05/22

There is so much information circling around what is taking place in Palestine/Israel. This episode is not a history lesson on the founding of Israel, the displacement of Palestinians, nor the current military occupation taking place in Gaza. There have been many books, documentaries, podcasts, etc created to do that. This episode is an invitation to join us in our journey as we wrestle to make sense of geo-politics and how religion is so often used to divide us, rather than bring us together.As

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Exploring the Complexities of Grief with Hillary Owen

Radical Sacred ·

2024/05/15

"The only time you can do grief wrong is when you judge yourself for grieving."Note: this episode about grief is heavy and it is long. If you are not in a space to address your grief, maybe save this one for later.Shout out to Hillary Owen of Driftwood Healing for joining us in this personal conversation all about grief. This episode opens with a gorgeous poem by Ada Limon - from her book Bright Dead Things - Tossing Around the AshesHillary, Phil, and Jenny have all had different dealings with grief

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46:08

Purity Culture... Again (Because it's that bad!)

Radical Sacred ·

2024/05/08

We’re back with Jessica Brazzeal of The Haven Wellness Center for her third visit! We heard from so many of you after our episode on purity culture we knew had to expand the conversation! If you missed our previous episode on purity culture start here. We discuss how purity culture affected us individually and collectively, the orgasm gap that exists in the evangelical world, resources and more. We also dive into the etymology of the word pastor. What is at the root of the word and how we can tell

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Attachment Styles with Hillary Owen

Radical Sacred ·

2024/05/01

In this week's episode Jenny and Phil are joined by Hillary Owen to discuss attachment theory and attachment styles. Hillary, a licensed mental health professional, shares her expertise on the topic and explains the four attachment styles: secure, disorganized, anxious, and avoidant. They also explore the concept of attachment-focused EMDR therapy and how it can help individuals heal from attachment wounds. In this conversation, Hillary Owen discusses the importance of understanding attachment

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