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Radical Sacred

Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke

Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core

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Rooted in a Future for Good: Inauguration Episode...

Radical Sacred ·

2025/01/20

Neil Moseley, consultant, bird guide, and all around lovely human joins us for this Inauguration Day special. When we dig at the root of the word Inauguration we find an invitation to cast a future of our own imagining. If today feels particularly challenging to you, we want you to know that you are in good company. This conversation invites us all to notice how we feel, admit the reality of the challenges we face, to spend time processing with our best dumb-dumbs, to check in on our neighbors, and

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45:27

Nathan Shultz on the Wisdom of Wild Places

Radical Sacred ·

2025/01/15

Nathan Schultz, founder of Path Wise Ventures, joins us today to talk about the wisdom of wild places. Raised as a missionary kid outdoors, Nathan’s journey from coporate funraising to pilgrimage leader is one of following his own interior knowing. We dive into the importance of connecting with natural spaces, of following the call of our hearts, and of embracing mystery. Nathan’s imaginative view of the world reminds us that we’d all be better off if we remembered we were friends with the trees

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64:50

Carl McColman Invites Us into Mystery

Radical Sacred ·

2025/01/08

This week pilgrimage with us into the expansive mind of spiritual director, author, and contemplative teacher Carl McColman. Carl’s vast knowledge of mysticism, Thomas Merton, and contemplative concepts makes this a fascinating and open ended conversation. Carl walks us through four fundamental questions he journeys through as a spiritual director: Throughout this imaginative chat we are reminded of what is possible when we approach the world in a spirit of hospitality and carve out time for

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34:19

Cheers to an Enchanting New Year

Radical Sacred ·

2025/01/01

Cheers to you dear listeners! Thank you for your support of Radical Sacred. This week we reminisce on all the ways the year has unfolded since our first episode of 2024 and we look towards our hopes and discuss our honest fears for 2025. Join us as we choose an intentional word as we head into this new year. Even if you’re not down with the Gregorian calendar, we recognize the beauty and potential of viewing each day as a new beginning. Cool stuff we talked about this episode (or meant to

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28:19

Y'all Want to See a Fresh Baby?

Radical Sacred ·

2024/12/25

Quick note, we had a little issue with Jenny's audio in this episode. Apologies for the few places her audio drops out. If you have questions about what she said, or you think she said, feel free to reach out to us!Merry Christmas from Radical Sacred! This week we went on a walk instead of having a meeting and it unexpectedly led to the delight of holding a friend's brand new baby. When we’re met with the Incarnation of God in a beautiful moment whether it be through the story of Mary’s Journey and

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42:39

Winter Solstice and the Pilgrimage of the Firefly

Radical Sacred ·

2024/12/18

When the seasons are changing how do we respond? This episode we talk about the light that is found when we begin to look within, the wisdom of learning to walk in the darkness, and the different ways that we can honor the changing weather and our changing humanity. Whether we call it Winter Solstice, Advent, or simply the movement from fall to winter- how are we being invited into our own depths and what will our response be? Cool stuff we mentioned this week (or meant to anyways): Find "Common

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51:36

Pilgrimage into Storytelling with Kim Powers

Radical Sacred ·

2024/12/11

This was a fun and wide ranging conversation with visual artist Kim Powers! Kim shares with us the importance of storytelling and the ways that our stories can either bring us together or tear us apart. We talk about why art and beauty matters, particularly when everything feels kind of dark and the importance of finding the wholeness of all the things. Kim invites us to make room for the fullness of others, and in doing so, we also make room for the fullness of ourselves. Cool stuff we talked about

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43:40

Pilgrimage Can Be a Real Trip with Rev. Kerra English

Radical Sacred ·

2024/12/04

We are thrilled to have Reverend Kerra English, spiritual director, retreat leader, pastor, and a no bullshit guide join us today to talk about the many pathways of pilgrimage. In this invitational and thoughtful conversation Kerra talks to us about leading with curiosity, recognizing when things need to shift, and all the ways that pilgrimage is really about opening your eyes, your heart and your mind, to the world around you. When we are invited into new ways of knowing whether it be through a

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48:07

Keep Your Fork with Rev. Ashley Anne Sipe

Radical Sacred ·

2024/11/27

This week we are thankful for this gorgeous conversation with Rev. Ashley Anne Sipe of Vista Ridge UMC! Ashley Anne walks us through her own pilgrimage which began with an honest conversation and call out from a fellow clergy woman. This thoughtful invitation is about learning to walk in our own darkness, the truly radical practice of loving all that is, and the deeply intimate connection that only comes with vulnerability. We are grateful for Ashley Anne and for her reminder in these wild times to

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41:25

Pilgrimage in the Prepositions

Radical Sacred ·

2024/11/20

In this conversation we explore Phil's recent experience at Princeton, focusing on the importance of grounding oneself in nature and the significance of understanding one's purpose. We talk about the need for beauty and play in life, especially during challenging times, and the importance of creating spaces for risk-taking and personal growth. We talk about calling through the lens of prepostions: called by, called to, called with, and called away from as a bonus. Some of the people referenced in

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67:38

The Journey from Fiction to Non-Fiction with Rob Bell

Radical Sacred ·

2024/11/13

Rob Bell joins us today in this post election haze. His hopeful and honest insight is sooooo good. Rob talks to us about pilgrimage and books 1 and 2 of his imaginative, beautiful series - Where’d You Park Your Spaceship. We are beyond grateful to share space with this fabulous author, speaker, thinker, and artist! You can find Rob Bell’s work, including his podcast, The Robcast, on Patreon. We begin and end this episode with Mary Oliver’s poem Instructions for Living a Life.Chapters00:00 Navigating

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62:09

From Scotland to Home: Bridging Pilgrimage...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/11/06

“One pilgrim makes a zealot, two pilgrims makes a pilgrimage” - Ted LassoRev. Alexa Eisenbarth, Associate Pastor of First Olympia UMC joins us today to talk about how her own personal pilgrimage to Scotland translated to her walking with her fellow pilgrims in her home of Olympia, WA and the importance of not going it alone. What do we learn when we go out walking long distances with others? And what can we learn from pilgrimage about the importance of rhythm, care, and rest both individually and in

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Pilgrimage Begins with The Door

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/30

An important part of pilgrimage is noticing the invitations that are all around us. Every pilgrimage begins with recognizing. What is inviting you to more of you and how can we recognize the doors that are for us. As you move through the world the next couple of weeks we wanted to give you practical advice on how to identify your own doors. Try 1 or 2 of these spiritual practices consistently and see what comes up for you in this time. Journal for a few minutes every day. Start off simply - roses,

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62:27

The Journey to Integration using Internal Family...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/23

Hillary Owen of Driftwood Healing joins us again today inviting us to journey inward as she shares about Internal Family Systems. Hillary takes a complex topic like IFS and makes it easy by using imagery and storytelling. We learn that we all have different parts that make up our Internal Family Systems. All of our parts are inherently good but not all of our parts need to have the same authority in our lives. Hillary helps us journey through the expired behavior that is no longer serving us and

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49:08

Ty Pierce's Pilgrimage Journey on the Pacific Crest...

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/16

This week we are thrilled to journey alongside Ty Pierce as he shares about his Pacific Crest Trail hike. Ty walks us through how a resolution to spend 15 nights outdoors and to seek out adventure led him to quitting his corporate job, and ultimately hitting a 2,650 mile trail spanning 3 states, Mexico, and Canada with an acquaintance who would turn into a best friend. Ty’s pilgrimage on the PCT was rigorous and pain filled. It also brought him profound joy, connections to many people he met on the

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Jenny's Gulf Coast Pilgrimage

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/09

Being folks who are typically more comfortable talking about things than actually doing the things, it was important to us to both take time this season to go on pilgrimages both big and small. In this episode Jenny reflects on her favorite place to pilgrimage, Galveston, TX. Jenny shares about what makes the Gulf Coast a sacred space for her and we invite folks into reflecting on their own sacred spaces. Going on your own pilgrimage soon and unsure of where to start? Here’s some gentle suggestions

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Pilgrimage to self, and each other, with Kelly and Jess

Radical Sacred ·

2024/10/02

Krista Tippet says “learning to love is the longest pilgrimage of our lives.” We are thrilled to welcome Kelly Slaven and Jessica Brazzeal of The Haven Wellness Center to share with us about their pilgrimage of love.Kelly and Jess share with us about coming out, finding love with one another, and building a life that feels authentic and true to them, together. We love a good love story at Radical Sacred and Jess and Kelly's is one we can’t wait for you to hear! It can be scary to allow your life to

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48:46

Pilgrimage with Karen Couch - It's Your Camino

Radical Sacred ·

2024/09/25

Phil and Jenny are thrilled today to speak with Karen Couch about the pilgrimage of walking the Camino de Santiago! Karen is an outdoor enthusiast, Enneagram 6, and co-founder of Elevate Outdoor Adventures. Karen talks to us today about her passion for encouraging women in the outdoors and her experiences of being a pilgrim on the Camino de Santiago. Karen’s love for nature is rooted in her upbringing and her excitement and love for the journey is infectious. Here’s the cool stuff we mentioned

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49:54

The Pilgrimage of Labyrinth with Rev. Cindy Serio

Radical Sacred ·

2024/09/18

This week we have their minds blown by Rev. Cindy Serio of Mosaic Spiritual Formation Ministry! Rev. Cindy walks us through the ancient, circuitous path of labyrinths. Why we walk them, how we connect to self and others through this spiritual tool, and how we can begin to view this centuries old pathway as a womb. For as many people as there are on earth, so are there ways to walk the labyrinth. Explore the pilgrimage of labyrinths further by using the Labyrinth Locator to find a route near

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Rev. Todd Seelau's Pilgrimage With and Beyond the Church

Radical Sacred ·

2024/09/11

In this week's episode we have the honor of interviewing Rev. Todd Silau about pilgrimage and his unique approach to ministry. We discuss the concept of pilgrimage and how it relates to being on the move and being a stranger in a new place. We also explore the idea of deconstructed ecclesiology and the importance of being a good guest when engaging with different communities.Todd shares his experiences of being on the road with his band and how it has shaped his understanding of pilgrimage. He

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