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Harry Potter After 2020

Lorrie Kim and JC

How does it feel to read Harry Potter after 2020? The words on the page don"t change. But times change. We, the readers, change. And that changes the story. Join podcast hosts Lorrie Kim and JC on a re-read of the series, chapter by chapter. As we delve into the story, we"ll remember what the books meant to us when they were first published and analyze what we see differently now. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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38:43

4.22: The Unexpected Task

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/04/16

My friend Lokifan wrote a meta about how Rowling writes friendship as romance and romance as mystery, because we don't know at this point who Hermione is going with. When friends are separated, their misery is how we consider romance difficulties to feel, and when friends are happy together, that's the great fulfillment that you get in a romance from the couple getting together. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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45:35

4.21: The House-Elf Liberation Front

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/04/09

Oh, Winky. She's nothing but pain, but I love her so much. She has, for me, some of the greatest pain of any character in this series, because she has all of the anxiety and burden of being a caretaker but none of the power. She can't stop caring; she's not even with the family anymore, but she genuinely cared and she can't stop. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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58:03

4.20: The First Task

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/04/02

Not all of your strengths have to be in being academic, right? And that's really true for Harry. He's got a lot of things that he's good at, but that idea of playing to your strengths and having someone remind you, "What are you good at? What are you bringing to this that no one else is?" That’s powerful, right? -JC For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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44:29

8.3: Lily Reevaluating HP After 2020

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/03/29

I've been a fan of the Harry Potter series for a long time, and have been reevaluating my relationship with it as a trans woman over the last few years. I think that despite herself, J.K. Rowling created a world that made me feel like I could be whatever I wanted. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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53:00

4.19: The Hungarian Horntail

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/03/26

The Invisibility Cloak felt like such a symbol of escape and safety in this way that Harry was able to put it on and briefly escape from all the awfulness that's coming his way. And it was such a relief for me as a reader, too. You can think of it as being able to go into a safe space or a place where you know that, "Here, I can do whatever I want," and he can just be there and be safe. The only people who can see him are people that he really trusts. -JC For full show notes, transcripts, ways to

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50:00

4.18: The Weighing of the Wands

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/03/19

The thing about Voldemort is that he doesn't connect with people, except that there's this wand that makes it possible that somebody else has. All of this about second chances and the Christian symbolic wood and core in Harry's wand… No matter how badly Voldemort has damaged his soul, if he connects with Harry, there is a chance that his soul could be restored. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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36:26

4.17: The Four Champions

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/03/12

All right, JC, let's hear it! JC: "Did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire, Harry?" Lorrie: "He asked calmly." For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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50:40

4.16: The Goblet of Fire

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/03/05

Mad-Eye Moody shows up and says, "Yeah, that's Harry Potter," and the color drains from Karkaroff's face. "A terrible look of mingled fury and fear came over him. ‘You!’" This shows why Merlin took infant Arthur away and hid him. If we see Karkaroff looking at Harry and then *gasps* being checkmated by the sight of this person who scares him, 'Oh, yeah, maybe baby Arthur and baby Harry... maybe we did have to go put them where nobody was going to try to kill them.' This child means something to

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44:35

4.15: Beauxbatons and Durmstrang

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/02/26

Hagrid as kind of a second-class citizen in the British wizarding world he's not really part of is because of what happened when he was younger and his wand got snapped, but Madame Maxime shows you if all that stuff hadn't happened, would he be a fully qualified wizard? Would he have the same respect? Could he have risen to the same kind of station as Madame Maxime has in her world? -JCFor full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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01:27:44

4.14: The Unforgivable Curses

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/02/19

If you're the person who was a victim of one of these crimes, you do not owe the criminal your forgiveness. If somebody has tried to mind-control you, torture you, or kill you, it's not your job to forgive them. It's not your job to restore their human dignity, to tell them it was okay. They may need that; that's on them. They have to go find whatever peace they can from somebody else. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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01:01:36

4.13: Mad-Eye Moody

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/02/12

This fake Moody seizes an opportunity to get on Harry's good side. Knowing the relationship or even just observing the relationship right there between Harry and Draco, to just jump in and go so over the top taking Draco out of the equation -- is absolutely the best thing that he could have done to get Harry and Ron to like him. -JC For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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45:34

4.12: The Triwizard Tournament

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/02/05

The lake is rising and Dennis Creevey falls in, and then it hit me: these kids are never going to have a normal year at Hogwarts. This is the crew that will never know what it was like. Not that any of them have really had a normal year, but compared to what's coming this year and the next year… We know what's happening and then it gets worse for these kids, and then I went, "Oh, it's like the pandemic." -JC For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and

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33:41

4.11: Aboard the Hogwarts Express

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/01/29

Lorrie: I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I think that Lucius and Narcissa have by far the most functional marriage in this whole series. JC: I can't think of a couple that seems to be more of a team. Lorrie: They discussed their disagreement and they compromised. Oh, my God. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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48:20

4.10: Mayhem at the Ministry

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/01/22

For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:19:55

8.2: Dr. Brent Satterly, aka Clitoris Umbridge

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/01/18

The transphobic messages communicate to especially trans youth -- but also queer and non-binary youth, LGBTQIA+ youth -- "you're broken"; "you are a danger, you're a threat." I think one of the things that is tough is that you can't not ingest toxic messages from that. It gets inside you and it's part of you, and the challenge is it's not just coming from J.K.; she's just someone with a huge megaphone. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more,

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01:22:49

4.9: The Dark Mark

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/01/15

"This is the first time we have genuinely seen the intense fear that Voldemort stirs up in the adults who lived in that era. We've seen people shuddering when they say the name, but it almost becomes a joke at some point. And this is genuine panic." For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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51:15

4.8: The Quidditch World Cup

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/01/08

I love Viktor Krum. I love how he is graceful in some contexts and inept in others, and as we will see later in this volume, I love understanding him in context as an athlete who is from a minority, and because of his high skill is vulnerable to government exploitation. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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35:44

4.7: Bagman and Crouch

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/01/01

JC: How does Harry know what a slide rule is? But also, how would you even use a slide rule to trim a mustache? It makes no sense. Lorrie: But it does call up a certain kind of old-fashioned fussiness. JC: Yeah, and a certain 1950s, 1960s style of nerd with the pocket protector and the horn-rimmed glasses. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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43:25

4.6: The Portkey

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2024/12/25

I don't think, pre-2016, I would've thought about it so much: how much the wizarding world is a metaphor for any group of people that has to live outside of the power structure or parallel to it, or with an eye on it at all times to make sure that they're not catching the attention of the wrong people. -JC For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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33:05

4.5: Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2024/12/18

I don't think, pre-2016, I would've thought about it so much: how much the wizarding world is a metaphor for any group of people that has to live outside of the power structure or parallel to it, or with an eye on it at all times to make sure that they're not catching the attention of the wrong people. -JC For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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