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Harry Potter After 2020

Lorrie Kim and JC

How does it feel to read Harry Potter after 2020? The words on the page don"t change. But times change. We, the readers, change. And that changes the story. Join podcast hosts Lorrie Kim and JC on a re-read of the series, chapter by chapter. As we delve into the story, we"ll remember what the books meant to us when they were first published and analyze what we see differently now. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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01:07:00

5.36: The Only One He Ever Feared

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/04/08

Grace Candido-Beecher [author of Voldemort] reads that phrase "the boy" as when Voldemort says it, he means Harry and he also means that part of himself that was the young Tom Riddle growing up in an orphanage. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:04:54

5.35: Beyond the Veil

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2026/04/01

When your friends are literally in mortal danger around you, the only important thing is these people's lives have to be saved. That is such a good, strong value that I think the Harry Potter generation, the millennials that grew up with this, really internalized from this international bestseller, which is one of the reasons why there's so much confusion and mass indignation at thinking that it's now okay to throw trans people under the bus. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the

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5.34: The Department of Mysteries

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/03/25

The locked room, the one that you can't do anything about. You can't get in, there's no handle, there's no nothing. I associate this room with Snape in all ways. To me, the energy that keeps this room sealed is exactly what this whole volume has been showing us about Occlumency. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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5.33: Fight and Flight

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2026/03/18

I see it from people who accepted these books when they were children and didn't have the critical faculties to see, 'Okay, this is a woman of a certain race and background writing these limitations that are her own personal prejudices.' But it's not too late to go back and reread and build up those defenses. That's just what any rereading does. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:07:48

5.32: Out of the Fire

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2026/03/11

JC: Madam Pomfrey says, "I would resign in protest, but I can't abandon the students." I hear teachers say that all the time. "I hate that the government wants me to put up the Ten Commandments or whatever. I hate that I can't call kids by their chosen name. I hate that I can't ask them how they're feeling or express concern over their mental health. I would quit in protest, but then who is going to take care of these kids? They still need someone." For full show notes, transcripts, ways to

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01:08:49

5.31: O.W.L.s

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2026/03/04

JC: ICE comes in the middle of the night to take Hagrid, basically. LK: Where are they taking him? What are they charging him with? Harry demonstrates something that is painfully real and current: he's so upset by all of this that he gets three hours of extremely poor-quality sleep the night before his History of Magic exam, so that exam is doomed. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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5.30: Grawp

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/02/25

The bullying that Grawp was suffering (that Hagrid had to save him from) is a result of colonization and displacement because giants were not meant to be in such close quarters. They've been attacking and killing each other because they weren't meant to be crammed into wherever they've escaped to, but there's nowhere else for a giant to go. This is about land rights and displacement. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:15:53

5.29: Career Advice

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/02/18

Even if Harry can't understand it right now, he is getting some of his father back by seeing that there were real living people -- full-fledged people -- who knew the whole James and demonstrate that they knew all of him and they loved him, and that complexity is restoring some of Harry's feelings. You can't really blame Voldemort for being dead of jealousy that Harry gets this. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:35:31

5.28: Snape's Worst Memory

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/02/11

Snape's worst memory is that he regrets betraying Lily by referring to her hunted status and reinforcing it. That supports the notion that Hermione did a sort of favor for Marietta by preventing her from having the same guilt on her conscience. If Marietta later had to think about her murdered friend Cho and exactly what it was that led Cho to be found and punished, this stopping people from going there is a form of protectiveness without affection. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to

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01:15:00

5.27: The Centaur and the Sneak

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/02/04

Marietta catches a sight of herself as framed in Umbridge's agenda, and seeing what she really is in that agenda? That's this moment of recognition that shuts her up. Marietta has now just seen a different part of herself written on her face. I have wondered if people who thought on previous rereads that Hermione went too far see what is going on with ICE and current events and if that has changed their perspective on this. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the

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01:23:03

5.26: Seen and Unforeseen

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2026/01/28

Somebody is being a grown-up, and he is taking on a dangerous duty so the kids don't have to fend for themselves. "It's not your job to find out what the Dark Lord is..." "That's your job, isn't it?" "Yes, it is." This is what it looks like when Snape stops hiding his agenda and tells something, the rare thing that is true about himself from every perspective. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:09:50

5.25: The Beetle at Bay

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2026/01/21

This is her chance to explore this unexplored concept of writing journalism as a member of the Fourth Estate, trying to hold people accountable; she's never done that, and when Hermione reminds her outright, "I can blackmail you," then she gives Rita the assignment. "Harry, are you ready to tell the public the truth?" She has just become Rita's editor. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:30:49

5.24: Occlumency

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2026/01/14

LK: We know, from him having put three memories in the Pensieve, that Snape has his own important things at risk here. JC: My first read with it was that there were things that he didn't want Harry to know, but now I'm like, 'Oh, there's things he doesn't want the Dark Lord to know.' He's not worried about Harry knowing. LK: If Voldemort sees things, he doesn't have the emotional intelligence to put them together a certain way; if Harry sees those things, Harry does. For full show notes,

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01:09:44

5.23: Christmas on the Closed Ward

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/01/07

LK: We run into Neville and his grandmother Augusta visiting Neville's parents in the long-term care ward. JC: Hermione has the sudden horror that Kreacher has a picture of her in his little den. LK: This is the human cost of family separation. The people who knowingly do this and enjoy the results have lives and emotional connections, too. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:02:01

8.5: Seeing Tom Felton in Harry Potter and the Cursed...

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2026/01/03

JC: We were in a theater full of people who were there because they wanted to see Tom Felton, and like you said, they queued for tickets, they paid a lot of money, they clearly are fans. I heard people crying around us, people were laughing... Everybody in that theater was thrilled; people leapt to their feet at the end to clap. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:25:26

5.22: St Mungo's Hospital for Magical Maladies and...

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2025/12/31

JC: What I would like Sirius to have said is, "You've told Dumbledore, and Dumbledore's on it. You need to sit tight, and let's see what Dumbledore comes up with. I know this sucks, and thank you for telling me. Can I hug you?" Anything like that is what would have made a difference. There are things that happened to Harry later that I think he ended up making choices because he thought nobody was on his side. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show,

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01:20:44

5.21: The Eye of the Snake

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2025/12/24

LK: The hope with Voldemort is that there is part of his own mind that he doesn't understand, and there's hope of being able to get to him that way. The problem with Umbridge is that she doesn't have that kind of empty spot. JC: Yeah. She's choosing it, she knows what she's doing, and she's unreachable in the same way that we talked about before and that others have talked about: the author is unreachable. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and

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5.20: Hagrid's Tale

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/17

Dumbledore sent Hagrid and Madame Maxime off to approach them, but he had to tell them what to do. It makes me think about stories of people whose parents were immigrants who then had lost this piece of their parents' culture and have a hard time reconnecting to it again. They were having to rely on what Dumbledore had told them about what giant culture was like, even though they're both half-giant. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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5.19: The Lion and the Serpent

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/10

Harry feels so empowered by knowing that he's doing something to make a difference in the background. That's really cool and also just very relatable, because I know that I've had feelings like that in the last few years. 'These are the things that are happening, but here's what I'm doing through my work to make it a little bit better.' For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:08:18

5.18: Dumbledore's Army

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/03

The hurt that he's accruing by being isolated and ignored by Dumbledore -- that hurt of not having his needs heard and met -- are doing more to turn him into somebody who can understand Voldemort's feelings and how Voldemort became who he is, starting from being an orphan who had nobody to hear him when he cried out for help and nobody to connect with. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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