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Harry Potter After 2020

Lorrie Kim and JC

How does it feel to read Harry Potter after 2020? The words on the page don"t change. But times change. We, the readers, change. And that changes the story. Join podcast hosts Lorrie Kim and JC on a re-read of the series, chapter by chapter. As we delve into the story, we"ll remember what the books meant to us when they were first published and analyze what we see differently now. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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01:20:44

5.21: The Eye of the Snake

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/24

LK: The hope with Voldemort is that there is part of his own mind that he doesn't understand, and there's hope of being able to get to him that way. The problem with Umbridge is that she doesn't have that kind of empty spot. JC: Yeah. She's choosing it, she knows what she's doing, and she's unreachable in the same way that we talked about before and that others have talked about: the author is unreachable. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and

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28:04

5.20: Hagrid's Tale

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/17

Dumbledore sent Hagrid and Madame Maxime off to approach them, but he had to tell them what to do. It makes me think about stories of people whose parents were immigrants who then had lost this piece of their parents' culture and have a hard time reconnecting to it again. They were having to rely on what Dumbledore had told them about what giant culture was like, even though they're both half-giant. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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46:39

5.19: The Lion and the Serpent

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/10

Harry feels so empowered by knowing that he's doing something to make a difference in the background. That's really cool and also just very relatable, because I know that I've had feelings like that in the last few years. 'These are the things that are happening, but here's what I'm doing through my work to make it a little bit better.' For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:08:18

5.18: Dumbledore's Army

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/03

The hurt that he's accruing by being isolated and ignored by Dumbledore -- that hurt of not having his needs heard and met -- are doing more to turn him into somebody who can understand Voldemort's feelings and how Voldemort became who he is, starting from being an orphan who had nobody to hear him when he cried out for help and nobody to connect with. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:14:15

5.17: Educational Decree Number Twenty-Four

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/11/26

This is part of the instruction manual. Support your own confidence by doing something and carry that within you. People believing Harry and letting him know that they have a high opinion of him has taken such a burden off of him. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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58:49

5.16: In the Hog's Head

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/11/19

Ernie -- bless Ernie -- points out the thing that has to be said: "We are prefects." He is verbalizing the risk that they have all agreed to take if they go on this path, and that is, in fact, what they're all deciding, and he himself has made the argument for why they should: that this is even more important than O.W.L.s. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:05:21

5.15: The Hogwarts High Inquisitor

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/11/12

JC: I went into reading this chapter thinking when I read it before, this seemed so incredibly super dark and hard to imagine. It did not feel that way this time; it was even funny to me in ways that it would not have been funny before. I'm starting to wonder if the rest of this book is going to feel that way to me. I remember this book being so dark, and now I'm like, 'It doesn't feel quite as dark.' For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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58:41

5.14: Percy and Padfoot

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/11/05

Harry's thinking he had known Percy for four years, had stayed in his house during the summers, yet now, Percy thought him 'unbalanced and possibly violent'? That was a feeling that was really powerful in the fandom during the first disbelief of TERFpocalypse. That vertigo when you realize that somebody has made you into a monster in their head, even though they had human connection with you that went back quite a way. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show,

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01:13:08

5.13: Detention with Dolores

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/29

LK: Your friends and allies are the ones who will hear you, so you have to be mindful of how you direct the anger that you're constantly being provoked to feel. I remember, in 2016, I had to be schooled. I had to be taught, "Do not make small hands jokes. The only people who are going to hear you are your trans-masc friends." That's true. Shoot, sorry. JC: Similarly, when people mock his weight or other things about his appearance, it's the same thing. Who hears those jokes? For full show notes,

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01:11:34

5.12: Professor Umbridge

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/22

They're all sitting there and it's just like *groans* and everyone's falling asleep… It's intended to be that the room is quiet. The appearance of learning is there, but no learning is actually happening. This is exactly what Umbridge wants. Then Hermione's hand goes up and stays up, and then slowly, everyone starts to notice, and it's this building and building and building. It's so good. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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52:56

5.11: The Sorting Hat's New Song

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/15

I would love to go through some of what Umbridge is saying here. First of all, the jargon that she's using…the words that she used to me as an educator were like red flags. The emphasis is not on creating thinking human beings that can reason and question things. No, we want them to have a very specific set of skills that they can apply, then, to whatever we tell them to. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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44:58

5.10: Luna Lovegood

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/08

Luna's final words to him are such a masterful end to this chapter, because she's smiling faintly when she says it; she knows. She is in charge of this moment. It's not one of her thoughtless things where she doesn't realize the effect she has on people, and I think she's chosen these words on purpose to be unsettling. "Don't worry. You're just as sane as I am." For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:09:24

5.9: The Woes of Mrs. Weasley

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/01

She is a resistance fighter who's already lost family and now has children; the more people you love in life, the more they have on you. This is just a fact. Snape is the opposite, of course; he deliberately prevents himself from having attachments so that he doesn't have that liability. But Molly… she went all in on giving birth to resistance fighters, so yeah, this is the price she pays. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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45:48

5.8: The Hearing

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/09/24

This way that Harry is being set up here -- drawing more blame to himself in proportion to how well he could defend himself from attack -- the only way for Harry to be virtuous in Fudge's eyes is to let himself get killed? There's no winning. There's no way to be a good victim that gets approval. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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45:11

5.7: The Ministry of Magic

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/09/17

Harry, looking at the layers and layers as he goes down, he's learning how to operate in this world that's built on secrets and hidden agendas and subversive speech, whether it's subversive because it's wizards trying to hide, escaping detection by Muggles, or whether it's members of the Order pretending in public not to know each other for their own safety. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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56:34

5.6: The Ancient and Most Noble House of Black

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/09/10

When Sirius looks around at how they're refitting the house for the Order, he says, "If my parents could see the use it was being put to now…" I thought, 'Oh, that's actually honest and hopeful,' because one of the words that came to my mind was 'reparations.' For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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48:40

5.5: The Order of the Phoenix

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/09/03

Everybody thought more highly of Harry's achievement than Harry did. He didn't realize what an advantage he's just given everybody and what a giant defeat he handed Voldemort, because as Harry has been rightly complaining, nobody's saying "Good job, Harry." And it's good for all these adults to realize, "Wait, Harry, you don't know what you did?" "No. If anybody would talk to me, maybe I would have some idea." For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more,

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47:48

5.4: Number Twelve, Grimmauld Place

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/08/29

In Korean, there are no capital or lowercase letters, so when I got this volume of Harry Potter in Korean translation, I checked to see how they did Capslock Harry and it's in boldface. If you're familiar with Capslock Harry, you don't have to read Korean to know what chapter this is; you can just see it and know. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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39:36

5.3: The Advance Guard

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/08/20

The moment he starts flying, he feels like himself again. This is something that we've really needed in this political landscape. The respite it gives your whole system to get back in touch with who you really are… That is something that anybody who's struggling should keep in mind like this. We actively want to reconnect to that feeling as much as possible, because it just resets your body if you can find a way. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and

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01:05:45

5.2: A Peck of Owls

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/08/13

Sometimes, there's a fantasy where you think, 'Well, if you could just make contact with somebody who's prejudiced and get them to see the common humanity, then they wouldn't be able to say to somebody's face, "Well, I hope you die."' But no, Vernon is fully aware of who Harry Potter is and has said right to his face, "Do your lot have the death penalty?" For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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