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Harry Potter After 2020

Lorrie Kim and JC

How does it feel to read Harry Potter after 2020? The words on the page don"t change. But times change. We, the readers, change. And that changes the story. Join podcast hosts Lorrie Kim and JC on a re-read of the series, chapter by chapter. As we delve into the story, we"ll remember what the books meant to us when they were first published and analyze what we see differently now. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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01:35:31

5.28: Snape's Worst Memory

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/02/11

Snape's worst memory is that he regrets betraying Lily by referring to her hunted status and reinforcing it. That supports the notion that Hermione did a sort of favor for Marietta by preventing her from having the same guilt on her conscience. If Marietta later had to think about her murdered friend Cho and exactly what it was that led Cho to be found and punished, this stopping people from going there is a form of protectiveness without affection. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to

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01:15:00

5.27: The Centaur and the Sneak

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/02/04

Marietta catches a sight of herself as framed in Umbridge's agenda, and seeing what she really is in that agenda? That's this moment of recognition that shuts her up. Marietta has now just seen a different part of herself written on her face. I have wondered if people who thought on previous rereads that Hermione went too far see what is going on with ICE and current events and if that has changed their perspective on this. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the

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01:23:03

5.26: Seen and Unforeseen

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/01/28

Somebody is being a grown-up, and he is taking on a dangerous duty so the kids don't have to fend for themselves. "It's not your job to find out what the Dark Lord is..." "That's your job, isn't it?" "Yes, it is." This is what it looks like when Snape stops hiding his agenda and tells something, the rare thing that is true about himself from every perspective. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:09:50

5.25: The Beetle at Bay

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/01/21

This is her chance to explore this unexplored concept of writing journalism as a member of the Fourth Estate, trying to hold people accountable; she's never done that, and when Hermione reminds her outright, "I can blackmail you," then she gives Rita the assignment. "Harry, are you ready to tell the public the truth?" She has just become Rita's editor. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:30:49

5.24: Occlumency

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/01/14

LK: We know, from him having put three memories in the Pensieve, that Snape has his own important things at risk here. JC: My first read with it was that there were things that he didn't want Harry to know, but now I'm like, 'Oh, there's things he doesn't want the Dark Lord to know.' He's not worried about Harry knowing. LK: If Voldemort sees things, he doesn't have the emotional intelligence to put them together a certain way; if Harry sees those things, Harry does. For full show notes,

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01:09:44

5.23: Christmas on the Closed Ward

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/01/07

LK: We run into Neville and his grandmother Augusta visiting Neville's parents in the long-term care ward. JC: Hermione has the sudden horror that Kreacher has a picture of her in his little den. LK: This is the human cost of family separation. The people who knowingly do this and enjoy the results have lives and emotional connections, too. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:02:01

8.5: Seeing Tom Felton in Harry Potter and the Cursed...

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2026/01/03

JC: We were in a theater full of people who were there because they wanted to see Tom Felton, and like you said, they queued for tickets, they paid a lot of money, they clearly are fans. I heard people crying around us, people were laughing... Everybody in that theater was thrilled; people leapt to their feet at the end to clap. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:25:26

5.22: St Mungo's Hospital for Magical Maladies and...

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/31

JC: What I would like Sirius to have said is, "You've told Dumbledore, and Dumbledore's on it. You need to sit tight, and let's see what Dumbledore comes up with. I know this sucks, and thank you for telling me. Can I hug you?" Anything like that is what would have made a difference. There are things that happened to Harry later that I think he ended up making choices because he thought nobody was on his side. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show,

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01:20:44

5.21: The Eye of the Snake

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/24

LK: The hope with Voldemort is that there is part of his own mind that he doesn't understand, and there's hope of being able to get to him that way. The problem with Umbridge is that she doesn't have that kind of empty spot. JC: Yeah. She's choosing it, she knows what she's doing, and she's unreachable in the same way that we talked about before and that others have talked about: the author is unreachable. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and

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28:04

5.20: Hagrid's Tale

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/17

Dumbledore sent Hagrid and Madame Maxime off to approach them, but he had to tell them what to do. It makes me think about stories of people whose parents were immigrants who then had lost this piece of their parents' culture and have a hard time reconnecting to it again. They were having to rely on what Dumbledore had told them about what giant culture was like, even though they're both half-giant. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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46:39

5.19: The Lion and the Serpent

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/10

Harry feels so empowered by knowing that he's doing something to make a difference in the background. That's really cool and also just very relatable, because I know that I've had feelings like that in the last few years. 'These are the things that are happening, but here's what I'm doing through my work to make it a little bit better.' For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:08:18

5.18: Dumbledore's Army

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/12/03

The hurt that he's accruing by being isolated and ignored by Dumbledore -- that hurt of not having his needs heard and met -- are doing more to turn him into somebody who can understand Voldemort's feelings and how Voldemort became who he is, starting from being an orphan who had nobody to hear him when he cried out for help and nobody to connect with. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:14:15

5.17: Educational Decree Number Twenty-Four

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/11/26

This is part of the instruction manual. Support your own confidence by doing something and carry that within you. People believing Harry and letting him know that they have a high opinion of him has taken such a burden off of him. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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58:49

5.16: In the Hog's Head

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/11/19

Ernie -- bless Ernie -- points out the thing that has to be said: "We are prefects." He is verbalizing the risk that they have all agreed to take if they go on this path, and that is, in fact, what they're all deciding, and he himself has made the argument for why they should: that this is even more important than O.W.L.s. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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01:05:21

5.15: The Hogwarts High Inquisitor

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/11/12

JC: I went into reading this chapter thinking when I read it before, this seemed so incredibly super dark and hard to imagine. It did not feel that way this time; it was even funny to me in ways that it would not have been funny before. I'm starting to wonder if the rest of this book is going to feel that way to me. I remember this book being so dark, and now I'm like, 'It doesn't feel quite as dark.' For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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58:41

5.14: Percy and Padfoot

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/11/05

Harry's thinking he had known Percy for four years, had stayed in his house during the summers, yet now, Percy thought him 'unbalanced and possibly violent'? That was a feeling that was really powerful in the fandom during the first disbelief of TERFpocalypse. That vertigo when you realize that somebody has made you into a monster in their head, even though they had human connection with you that went back quite a way. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show,

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01:13:08

5.13: Detention with Dolores

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/29

LK: Your friends and allies are the ones who will hear you, so you have to be mindful of how you direct the anger that you're constantly being provoked to feel. I remember, in 2016, I had to be schooled. I had to be taught, "Do not make small hands jokes. The only people who are going to hear you are your trans-masc friends." That's true. Shoot, sorry. JC: Similarly, when people mock his weight or other things about his appearance, it's the same thing. Who hears those jokes? For full show notes,

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01:11:34

5.12: Professor Umbridge

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/22

They're all sitting there and it's just like *groans* and everyone's falling asleep… It's intended to be that the room is quiet. The appearance of learning is there, but no learning is actually happening. This is exactly what Umbridge wants. Then Hermione's hand goes up and stays up, and then slowly, everyone starts to notice, and it's this building and building and building. It's so good. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit

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52:56

5.11: The Sorting Hat's New Song

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/15

I would love to go through some of what Umbridge is saying here. First of all, the jargon that she's using…the words that she used to me as an educator were like red flags. The emphasis is not on creating thinking human beings that can reason and question things. No, we want them to have a very specific set of skills that they can apply, then, to whatever we tell them to. For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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44:58

5.10: Luna Lovegood

Harry Potter After 2020 ·

2025/10/08

Luna's final words to him are such a masterful end to this chapter, because she's smiling faintly when she says it; she knows. She is in charge of this moment. It's not one of her thoughtless things where she doesn't realize the effect she has on people, and I think she's chosen these words on purpose to be unsettling. "Don't worry. You're just as sane as I am." For full show notes, transcripts, ways to contact the hosts or support the show, and more, visit hpafter2020.com.

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