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Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes

On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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Episode 74: Etienne Flinn (Tribunal)

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2025/05/27

In Penitence and Ruin (20 Buck Spin) is the second album by Vancouver, British Columbia's gothic-doom quintet Tribunal.Led by bassist/cellist/vocalist Soren Mourne and guitarist/vocalist Etienne Flinn, the contrast of Mourne and Flinn's vocal styles and Mourne's cello give the album a very particular quality—atmospheric, moody and powerful.Flinn joins me to discuss the album, songwriting with Mourne, the practicalities of managing the band's instrumentation on stage and the joy of booking

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Episode 73: Tom "Fountainhead" Geldschläger...

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2025/05/23

Progressive-metal guitarist Tom "Fountainhead" Geldschläger recently released his eponymous "debut" as CHANGELING.An album several years in the making, the music is essentially Fountainhead under a new name—and a sonically intense and enveloping progressive-death-metal experience it is too.Featuring a host of guest musicians and intricate arrangements, the album is out now on Season of Mist.Tom and I discuss the album, his time growing up in post-Communist East Germany, how he got into

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Episode 72:Fabien W. Furter(Death W***e)

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2025/05/20

Fabien W. Furter is the guitarist and vocalist for French extreme-metal three-piece Death W***e. The band recently released their debut, full-length record Blood Washes Everything Away (No Good To Anyone Productions / Duality Records / Specific Recordings / Crypt of Dr. Gore / Hecatombe Records). I first interviewed Fabien back in 2020 for Blessed Altar Zine to talk about his (at the time) main band Wheelfall.Last year, I was thrilled to have Fabian join me on Whatever Comes Next (Episode 19) to

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Episode 71: elie zoé

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2025/05/16

Swiss Indie-rock songwriter elie zoé has been on an evolutionary journey as an artist for more than a decade.In recent times a major transformation led to a significant change in elie's singing and a need to approach music making from a new direction."change my name" is the first single from forthcoming record shifting forms (due for release this October via Humus Records).elie joins me to discuss the latest single, their unique approach to the guitar, relearning how to sing and their thoughts on

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Episode 70: Matt Stikker (Drouth)

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2025/05/13

The Teeth of Time (out this Friday via Eternal Warfare Records) is the latest record by Portland, Oregon extreme metal group Drouth.Guitarist and vocalist Matt Stikker joins me to discuss the making of the record, his artwork and how he balances being a freelance illustrator with making music.Thanks to Austin at Secret Service PRBand photo: Jason DeSomerClosing track: "False Grail"Follow⁠ DrouthBuy ⁠The Teeth of TimeI'm running the Edinburgh Marathon 2025 for on the 25th of May for the Scottish

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Episode 69: The Atrocity Circus

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2025/05/09

Dan Dolby, Thomas Ott and existent/nonexistent share a love of experimental and underground music and noise. Having already collaborated on several occasions (including on their noise/drone project Catafalque), Dolby and Ott created Yellow Crooked Teeth as The Atrocity Circus in 2022. Himself a fan of the debut, e/ne joined Dolby and Ott to create the newly-released follow-up Malpractice—a powerful, enveloping sonic landscape of noise, power electronics and death industrial sounds. All three join me

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Episode 68: Charming Disaster

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2025/05/06

The world of gothic-cabaret-rock duo Charming Disaster is one of magic, mystery and tongue-in-cheek horror. With their latest album, The Double, coming out on the 16th of May Ellia Bisker and Jeff Morris join me to discuss the album, their live shows, Edward Gorey and building a community of kind, curious weirdos. Closing track: "New Moon" For all things Charming Disaster: https://www.charmingdisaster.com/ Check out my latest album ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Real Silence on Drama Recorder⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thanks

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Episode 67: David Judson Clemmons

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2025/04/29

David Judson Clemmons has been making music since the late 80s, building an impressive body of work (whether under his own name, or with projects like Damn The Machine and Jud). His latest record Everything A War is arguably one of his best, a rousing rock album of passion and hope. On episode 32 of the podcast we looked back through David's career. In this episode we discuss the latest record in detail, David's writing, the recording process with his band and some of his production techniques

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Episode 66: Blake Bickel (Bronson Arm)

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2025/04/22

Casket Schwagg is the second album by Kalamazoo, Michigan noise-rock duo Bronson Arm (released via Learning Curve Records on the 9th of May). Vocalist and baritone guitarist Blake Bickel returns to the show (both he and drummer Garrett Yates having appeared on episode 2) to discuss the latest album, touring and what noise rock means to him. Thanks to Curran at The Chain Closing track: "Casket Schwagg" Photo by J. LudekerFor all things Bronson Arm:bandcampInstagramCheck out my latest album

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Episode 65: Sludgebucket

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2025/04/15

Formed in the mid 2000s by Kelly Waldrip, Oakland, California's Sludgebucket have gone through many evolutions to reach the current heavy-fusion sound of their latest album Vampiric Earth. With the band now composed of Kelly on bass and Marc Kaufman on drums Vampiric Earth is a funky, heavy record full of slippery rhythms and clever instrumental interplay between the duo. Kelly and Marc join me to discuss the record, their inspirations and the history of Sludgebucket. Thanks to Kyle at Good Boy PR

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Episode64: Frankie Clarke (Frankie and The Studs)

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2025/04/08

Life's a Glitch is the debut record by rock 'n' roll group Frankie and The Studs (out now on Dead Beat Records) and the album marks the culmination of almost ten years of various songwriting sessions and lineups.Bandleader Frankie Clarke's music-making experience goes back even further and as the daughter of guitarist, singer and producer Gilby Clarke (who has recorded much of her band's work) she was already learning about life in the entertainment world before she ever recorded or performed

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Episode 63: Cartilage

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2025/04/01

San Francisco death-grind group Cartilage may look like a band of bloodthirsty psychopaths in their promotional photos, but it's all in good fun (if not good taste). Inspired by both the comedy and gore of classic splatter movies, as well as a broad range of extreme metal bands, Cartilage have been honing their sound (and on stage antics) for over ten years. Their latest EP Tales From The Entrails: A Necrology is out now on Italy's Everlasting Spew Records and given the gory themes and presentation

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Episode 62: Conan Neutron

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2025/03/25

Ten years ago, looking to start a new creative project, Conan Neutron brought a batch of untested song ideas to producer Toshi Kasai to see what might be done with them. Toshi suitably enthused, Conan quickly brought in Dale Crover on drums and Tony Ash on bass and Conan Neutron and The Secret Friends was born. With the band having just released their latest LP The Way of The Neutron (via Seismic Wave Entertainment) Conan joins me to discuss the album, songwriting, his podcast Conan Neutron's

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Episode 61: Venamoris

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2025/03/18

The musical backgrounds of Paula and Dave Lombardo could hardly be more different. A shy Canadian girl, Paula found herself playing large auditoriums as a teenage backing singer for Las Vegas showman Wayne Newton; Dave, a Cuban immigrant to the US, was already on his way to becoming a metal icon as drummer for Slayer by the time he reached his 20s. Venamoris is the couple's first musical collaboration, with Dave having helped Paula find a way back into music after an ultimately disillusioning move

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Episode 60: Stinking Lizaveta

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2025/03/11

Instrumental-rock trio Stinking Lizaveta have been making mind-warping, rhythmically-slippery, guitar-driven music together for over thirty years. Having sprung up from the West Philadelphia punk underground, the trio of guitarist Yanni Papadopoulos, his brother Alexi on electric upright bass and drummer Cheshire Agusta have continued to evolve their sound—most recently with 2023's Anthems and Phantoms. Now current label SRA Records has put out James-Plotkin-remastered versions of the band's first

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Episode 59: Dan St. Jacques (The Hammer Party, Landed)

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2025/03/04

Dan St. Jacques has proven himself to be a rock n' roll lifer. Coming up in the more experimental realms of alternative rock and post punk in Providence, Rhode Island, St. Jacques has featured in more bands than you have fingers.With St. Jacques' latest band The Hammer Party currently working on new material, the vocalist, and sometime bass player looks back on his musical upbringing and some of the bands he's played in, played with, or been inspired by.Closing track: Tiamat's Revenge (Psychic

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Episode 58: KARLA KVLT

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2025/02/25

Hamburg, Germany's KARLA KVLT blend the percussive power of early Swans, the doomy, droning proto-metal of Black Sabbath and the hypnotic tones of vocalist/ bassist Teresa Matilda Curtens (coming across like some kind of shoegaze/dream-pop singer, if the dream were apocalyptic). Father and son, guitarist (and former EISENVATER frontman) Markus E. Lipka and drummer Johann Wientjes (who also plays with wife Curtens in MELTING PALMS) join me to discuss Thunderhunter, the very different musical worlds

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Episode 57: Richard Johnson (Drugs of Faith,...

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2025/02/18

Richard Johnson's work in the underground music world stretches back to the early 90s. From his fanzine Disposable Underground (now an online music blog) to his early recording work with Enemy Soil, Johnson has spent plenty of time writing, performing and writing about music. Asymmetrical (released this Friday on Selfmadegod Records and Malokul) is the latest release (and first album in 14 years) from one of Johnson's current bands Drugs of Faith — and a blistering grind n' roll explosion it is too

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Episode 56: Mike Baggetta (mssv)

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2025/02/11

American guitarist, composer (and more recently singer) Mike Baggetta has been making music for over 20 years—whether as a sideman or lead songwriter. For his most recent project mssv (Main Steam Stop Valve) Baggetta brought in two of the best musicians you could reasonably hope to play with to realise his musical vision: Mike Watt (Minutemen, fIREHOSE, The Stooges, Porno For Pyros etc) on bass and Stephen Hodges (Tom Waits, David Lynch etc) on drums. The band's latest record On And On (out March

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Episode 55: Endless Dive

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2025/02/04

Formed as a four-piece ten years ago, Belgian, instrumental-rock group Endless Dive were reduced to the duo of Pierre Van Vlaenderen and Nathan Mondez prior to the making of their latest record Souvenances (released on the 28th of February, via Floral Records and Luik). Drawing together guitars, electronic textures and old, childhood VHS recordings, Souvenances is like a long-lost audio photo book discovered in an attic. Evocative and beautiful. Pierre and Nathan discuss the making of the record,

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